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  • That just proves to me that it's not popular enough in other countries, barring Japan and SK, for them to be able to put a decent team together.

    Whichever batsman is closest to the stumps that just got their bails taken off by the ball. That's the important part, though. The bails (the little pieces of wood on top of the three stumps) have to be removed by the ball, or the hand with the ball in it for it to be out.

    I just meant that you, as an American (by which I mean USA citizen) can't really claim other countries achievements as your own. It would be like me claiming Spains victory as an Australian victory because we live on the same planet.
    With Cricket, the main competition is international competition, but there are very strong domestic competitions as well. In Australia, it's the Sheffield Shield, with each state having a team. The national team is picked from the best players of those teams, and the state teams are picked from the best players from regional clubs (which pretty much anyone can join, if they're good enough that is). It's similar to the way Soccer is set up. In soccer there are several prominent domestic competitions that a lot of people follow. The EPL, Italy, Spain, etc, and the World Cup is also a prominent competition (probably moreso than the domestic ones). With Cricket, is much more of an international game. Sure, the domestic competitions are strong, particularly in India, but you're nothing unless you've played at international level.

    If the batsman thinks he's hit the ball into a part of the field that will give him enough time to make a run before the fielders get the ball back to either the wicket keeper or the bowler (or whoever it is at either end, it doesn't matter as long as the stumps get hit) then he will run. In some ametuer forms of the game you play tippities, which means you have to run if you hit it, but thats never used in professional competitions. Once the ball is in the hands of the fielder at either end, and either both batsman are safe or one is out (there are no double plays), then the Umpire declares dead ball, and the next ball begins.

    I don't know if you can really claim that.
    But the Premier Baseball competition is a domestic competition, namely MLB. The Premier Cricket competition is international tests.

    Anyone can hit a target that follows the ball (the fielder's glove), but it takes a lot more skill to hit a stationary stump in the same way.
    I hadn't seen it before. You sent me that science one, about TV science versus actual science.

    You don't seem to think they do. It is a world sport. It's popular in Britain, Australia, South Africa, The West Indies, Pakistan, New Zealand, Bangladesh, Scotland, Ireland, Kenya, Zimbabwe, as well as India. Just because Jupiter is bigger than all the other planets combined, doesn't mean that the others aren't important.

    Whilst being upside down, rolling across the ground at the same time? Doubt that.

    Fair deuce.
    Lol... that was seriously funny. I'll rep one of your posts for that.

    Sorry, my bad.

    Ok, so Indians don't count because they're a third world country?

    If it had been professional baseballers doing that ten times better, it wouldn't have been as good. They didn't manage to hit a stump the width of.... nothing comes to mind right away. Maybe both your thumbs put together?

    No, I'm just pointing out that it has more differences with how bowlers bowl.
    I never said you did. The combined force of the Commonwealth troops numbered about 40000, whilst the numbers of American troops was 300000 plus. You had an economic grip on them for some time, and you had them scared to **** of you because you killed several hundred thousand of them with just two bombs. I'm just saying there was some cultural bleeding from yours into theirs.

    It is. It's really easy to catch a ball with that glove. Therefore, if there's a fielder under the ball, it's as good as caught. Not so in cricket.

    And how often do you see outfielders throw the ball 100 metres and hit a single wicket the width of about an inch and a half. Admittedly, it's pretty rare in cricket, but you never see that level of skill displayed at all in baseball.
    Exactly. Your troops dever occupied Australia, though. They did in Japan. The USA directly controlled what happened in Japan for several years after the war.

    The fact that you regularly see fielders in cricket catching the ball whilst they are horizontal in mid air, without a giant leather net, makes it 1000 times more spectacular. Admittedly, you don't have as many things to worry about, but who goes to a baseball match to see the fielders think about who to throw the ball to? It's about action, baby!
    It was introduced to Australia in the 1850s, and we got our first nationwide, professional league in 1934. That doesn't necessarily make it a popular sport. America's post war occupation of Japan greatly influenced baseball's popularity in that country. Don't act like it didn't.

    So the incredible thing about a baseball catch is something I can see at a rock climbing centre? I doubt you'd be able to perform one of those wall climb catches without your giant mittens. And as if fielding in Baseball is more interesting than Cricket. There's a full 360 degrees of options, no illegal areas and a significantly larger playing area (nearly double), and not to mention the lack of giant mittens, make for a significantly harder, more interesting game.

    Whatever, this stopped being fun anyway.
    Still, Japan was owned by America for a bit after the second world war, and without Japan or America, would there still be massive support for baseball? I maintain that the only reason Baseball is popular outside of America is because America is such a dominant world power. The same could be said of the UK, but that's no longer really the case, is it?

    Undoubtedly. The suspense of waiting to see whether someone's going to catch a high ball, or the entertainment of seeing it get juggled around near the rope. Youtubing the best baseball catches just reveal people running into walls. Weird.

    Ok, but is it still Country vs Country?
    Wikipedia for some reason said the number of teams was 19. You are correct that the 2007 World Cup was 16 teams though.

    Harder ball, no padding and a smaller surface area to use. Catching a cricket ball is significantly more difficult than in Baseball.

    Ok, so we're not that good. But we're into a lot of sports. Particularly in Melbourne.

    Ok, I'll play by your game if we can play it in Australia. That would make things more fair.
    We got killer whales, but so does everyone. We've also got sea lions, which I'm assuming are exactly as dangerous as regular lions.

    Whatever, lets just keep is as country vs country.

    I did.

    Besides, Kangaroos can be pretty mean. They've got a pretty powerful kick, and can disembowel ****.
    I usually see you two arguing. :lol: Thank you for accepting my apology.

    I don't hate America or anything, as I said... I'm just b*tchy.
    Forum b*tch fit.

    Don't take offence to anything I say, I've been in a bad mood recently. Don't know why. Just a swing.

    So, I apologize.
    You do have to wait a while for a good play, tis true :lol:

    Being stoned out of your mind would improve any experience, one would think.
    True, but it is fun to watch a good play, when they're not just passing it to each other because they can't find an opening.

    Yeah, refs hate Australia. In our two losses in this world cup, we had a red card in each. Having to play a man down for the rest of the game seems a little extreme.

    Does baseball have a video referee? I remember they introduced a new rule in cricket meaning that the players can appeal decisions by the umpire using the third umpire (video ref), but if they get two appeals knocked back, they can't appeal for the rest of the innings. Maybe something like that would work in soccer?

    Go watch some AFL instead. Much better.
    I Just thought something should be below Gridiron. I only know what it is because the AFL has this experiment going where they pinch Irish players from the various national sports over there (Gaelic Football and Hurling), and my teams full forward came from Hurling.

    You gotta admit though, it takes heaps of skill to be able to control the ball like that.

    Yeah, especially after thats how our national team got booted out of the last world cup. Damn Italians.
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