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Necromancer · Apr 14, 2010

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Skorm's Son;378612 said:
No Fishing.

Fishing was terribly annoying anyway. It's so much easier and better to just jump in the water and grab whatever's in it.

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
No aging.

There is aging. Your character will look old by the end of the game. There's just no place to see your actual age.

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
No Armour [c'mon atleast have SOME].

ranger outfit

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
Not as many towns [not including DLC].

TLC: Bowerstone, Oakvale, Barrow Fields, Knothole Glade, Hook Coast, Snowspire Village

Fable 2: Bowerstone, Bower Lake Gypsy Camp, Oakfield, Westcliff Camp, Bloodstone

Oh no, there's one more.

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
No Good plot.

What do you think was wrong with it?

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
The overall feel of the game wasnt very...."Fabley"

It's a completely different game. It's not supposed to be like the first. Fable 2 completely redefines what the Fable franchise is. Don't just keep thinking of Fable as a game in medieval times with bows, magic, and dragons. That's not all it is anymore. And consider this: Those who have played Fable 2 first claim that TLC doesn't feel like Fable.

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
Like it's predecessor, it was too short and easy.

Short? What the hell have you been playing? TLC was definitely not short, and I can understand why you might say Fable 2's story is short, but the massive amounts of other things you can do in it make it even longer than TLC as a whole.

Skorm's Son;378612 said:
Pathetic excuse for an arena [The Crucible]

What do you think was wrong with it?

Skorm's Son · Apr 14, 2010

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Necromancer11;378758 said:
Fishing was terribly annoying anyway. It's so much easier and better to just jump in the water and grab whatever's in it.

I think it shouldve been in there. just improved.

Necromancer11;378758 said:
There is aging. Your character will look old by the end of the game. There's just no place to see your actual age.

My character looked the same the whole way through [except child version]

Necromancer11;378758 said:
ranger outfit

Any others?
I cant think of any.

Necromancer11;378758 said:
TLC: Bowerstone, Oakvale, Barrow Fields, Knothole Glade, Hook Coast, Snowspire Village

Fable 2: Bowerstone, Bower Lake Gypsy Camp, Oakfield, Westcliff Camp, Bloodstone

Oh no, there's one more.

Camps arent towns

Necromancer11;378758 said:
What do you think was wrong with it?

The story itself isnt that good. infact its even forgetable.

and simply shooting lucien off into the abyss while he's giving his cliche badguy speech. What the hell is that? That's not how the "final battle" with lucien should've went at all.

Necromancer11;378758 said:
It's a completely different game. It's not supposed to be like the first. Fable 2 completely redefines what the Fable franchise is. Don't just keep thinking of Fable as a game in medieval times with bows, magic, and dragons. That's not all it is anymore. And consider this: Those who have played Fable 2 first claim that TLC doesn't feel like Fable.

I know it's not supposed to "be like the first" and to try "redefine" the franchise, but it feels like a completely different fracnhise thats like "hey, lets do a game similar to Fable, but not as "Fabley" :lol:

I like the idea of the setting being hundreds of years in the future though.

Necromancer11;378758 said:
Short? What the hell have you been playing? TLC was definitely not short, and I can understand why you might say Fable 2's story is short, but the massive amounts of other things you can do in it make it even longer than TLC as a whole.

Fable II's story is too short
Fable's story is too short
Fable TLC's story is longer than the original Fable, but still pretty short.

Yes there are a good amount of side quests but most are fairly easy.

MrNoob · Apr 14, 2010

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Honestly....
I loved the first Fable when I played it so freaking much, but after playing through Fable 2 (at least 4000 times) when I play the first one (or TLC, which is all I have hehe) it just feels weird and kinda boring. I think Fable 2 has spoiled me, I mean I still love the first one, it just doesn't seem as fun as it used to (and not as fun as Fable 2)

Skorm's Son · Apr 15, 2010

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MrNoob;378845 said:
when I play the first one (or TLC, which is all I have hehe) it just feels weird and kinda boring. I think Fable 2 has spoiled me, I mean I still love the first one, it just doesn't seem as fun as it used to (and not as fun as Fable 2)

Awwww..

Holy Warrior · Apr 15, 2010

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I agree with Skorm 's son i liked Fable TLC better then Fable 2 i thought the story was a little more creative i liked that there were lots of heroes around, i liked that they had real armor looking pieces, hell i even liked the Guild Master, you can all be shocked now.

Necromancer · Apr 15, 2010

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Skorm's Son;378777 said:
My character looked the same the whole way through [except child version]

Pay more attention next time.

Skorm's Son;378777 said:
Any others?
I cant think of any.

No, that's it, but there isn't supposed to be any armor. It's set around the time of the American Revolution.

Skorm's Son;378777 said:
Camps arent towns

Well Westcliff Camp is still a town. After it's been turned into a more developed place, you can't argue that it isn't a town. And even if it stays the same, it still has a tavern, a weapons shop, and food traders. That's a town. So take out Barrow Fields and the Bower Lake Gypsy Camp and you've still got only one more.

Skorm's Son;378777 said:
The story itself isnt that good. infact its even forgetable.

and simply shooting lucien off into the abyss while he's giving his cliche badguy speech. What the hell is that? That's not how the "final battle" with lucien should've went at all.

Alright, but the way it goes at the end doesn't have to do with the story itself. It's just lacking a boss battle. The same thing would have happened if there was a boss battle or not. That's not an aspect of the plot. Why specifically was it bad?

Skorm's Son;378777 said:
I know it's not supposed to "be like the first" and to try "redefine" the franchise, but it feels like a completely different fracnhise thats like "hey, lets do a game similar to Fable, but not as "Fabley" :lol:

It is a completely different franchise now. And they didn't try to make it similar. That's what makes the franchise better, newer, and completely different. It isn't just limited to what's in TLC anymore. It's much more expansive.

Skorm's Son;378777 said:
Fable II's story is too short
Fable's story is too short
Fable TLC's story is longer than the original Fable, but still pretty short.

Yes there are a good amount of side quests but most are fairly easy.

The lengths of these being too long, too short, or just right is a matter of opinion, but if you're looking for a challenge, play something else. Fable isn't supposed to be hard. Its point isn't to challenge you. It's to let you be any kind of Hero you want to be.

MrNoob;378845 said:
Honestly....
I loved the first Fable when I played it so freaking much, but after playing through Fable 2 (at least 4000 times) when I play the first one (or TLC, which is all I have hehe) it just feels weird and kinda boring. I think Fable 2 has spoiled me, I mean I still love the first one, it just doesn't seem as fun as it used to (and not as fun as Fable 2)

I get that. It's not so bad with me, though. I still play TLC as much as I play Fable 2, but occasionally I'll find it hard to sit down and play it. And sometimes while I'm playing it I'll want to get off and go play Fable 2.

Skorm's Boss · Apr 16, 2010

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just replaying FII again, I love it! My only complaint is when your evil (which i am... frequentley) the screaming and running villagers get on my wick! I mean I own everything, I'm not over charging them on their rents and yet everytime I try to find a wife all I get is "Ahhhhhhh!" I think we really need in FIII some villagers that find evil horned men (or women) attractive

CurlySpoon · Apr 17, 2010

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I am one of those people who like Fable ad Fable 2 the same but I have to agree with you on some, but not that much. I can't agree with you on the no armor thing though, because I like the fact that whatever you wear doesn't effect you, unlike in Fable. Fishing was taken out, but I think they replaced it with dog spots, which annoyed me after awhile. About the shortness of the games, I don't think you realize how many things you can do on Fable TLC, Fable, and Fable 2. You can buy houses, marry people, gain a reputation, find legendary items, buy items, explore, dig things up, sell items, get drunk

, etc. If your person looked the same all the way through, did you notice that they could possibly get taller or more muscular? Also, did you change up the clothing, so your person didn't look the same? The story line isn't forgettable (even though I would like to forget Hammer). How could anyone forget about Reaver?

I do miss betting on quests though. You know, doing it naked, fist fighting only, protect the guards, dont get hit, etc.

All in all, I think you have to play a little more and explore some more

Skorm's Son · Apr 20, 2010

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Skorm's Boss;379540 said:
just replaying FII again, I love it! My only complaint is when your evil (which i am... frequentley) the screaming and running villagers get on my wick! I mean I own everything, I'm not over charging them on their rents and yet everytime I try to find a wife all I get is "Ahhhhhhh!" I think we really need in FIII some villagers that find evil horned men (or women) attractive

SOME people DO find the corrupt appearance attractive.

I like the Pure evil look alot.

personally, I like the evil horned look in Fable more than in Fable II.
Mainly because the horns look different.

CurlySpoon;379859 said:
You can buy houses, marry people, gain a reputation, find legendary items, buy items, explore, dig things up, sell items, get drunk etc.

Houses, Marraige, Rep, Buyin/Selling, Intoxication dont really take long to do.

Legendary items and digging I'll agree.
And keys, chests, etc.

CurlySpoon;379859 said:
If your person looked the same all the way through, did you notice that they could possibly get taller or more muscular? Also, did you change up the clothing, so your person didn't look the same?

Muscles/Height have to do with your Strength/Skill.
Yeah I change the clothes/ Tattoos. Ah the tatts in Fable were WAY better too.

CurlySpoon;379859 said:
The story line isn't forgettable (even though I would like to forget Hammer). How could anyone forget about Reaver?
I do miss betting on quests though. You know, doing it naked, fist fighting only, protect the guards, dont get hit, etc.

Ah I hated "Hammer".
Yeah boasting was another good thing missing....

CurlySpoon;379859 said:
All in all, I think you have to play a little more and explore some more

I will.

Necromancer11;379180 said:
Pay more attention next time.

Haha will do

Necromancer11;379180 said:
No, that's it, but there isn't supposed to be any armor. It's set around the time of the American Revolution.

Do you think that during that time period, all the armour just dissappeared? :lol:

Necromancer11;379180 said:
Well Westcliff Camp is still a town. After it's been turned into a more developed place, you can't argue that it isn't a town. And even if it stays the same, it still has a tavern, a weapons shop, and food traders. That's a town.

The Bandit Camp in Fable had all that too.
Is it a town then?

Necromancer11;379180 said:
Alright, but the way it goes at the end doesn't have to do with the story itself. It's just lacking a boss battle. The same thing would have happened if there was a boss battle or not. That's not an aspect of the plot.

The "boss battle" IS part of the story. Lucien is a big character in it.
After all, if there was no Lucien, there would be no Fable II.

Necromancer11;379180 said:
Why specifically was it bad?

It was kinda lazy and cliche.
Yeah Fable's story is similar in some sense, Fable II's felt abit sloppy or something.

ex:
Like when a band's record label tells them to release a new album by a certain deadline and they end up rushing it and its not as good as it could be...........get what I mean??

Necromancer11;379180 said:
The lengths of these being too long, too short, or just right is a matter of opinion, but if you're looking for a challenge, play something else. Fable isn't supposed to be hard. Its point isn't to challenge you. It's to let you be any kind of Hero you want to be.

Well I just like to a longer experience with the Villain(s) I choose to be, and to challenge them...

Necromancer11;379180 said:
I get that. It's not so bad with me, though. I still play TLC as much as I play Fable 2, but occasionally I'll find it hard to sit down and play it. And sometimes while I'm playing it I'll want to get off and go play Fable 2.

Nah:lol:

Necromancer · Apr 21, 2010

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Skorm's Son;380976 said:
Do you think that during that time period, all the armour just dissappeared? :lol:

It just isn't used anymore because of the appearance of firearms.

Skorm's Son;380976 said:
The Bandit Camp in Fable had all that too.
Is it a town then?

Perhaps that wasn't the best way to define a town. The Heroes' Guild has all that, and it's not a town. So no, Twinblade's Camp isn't a town. But we all know what is and isn't a town, and Westcliff Camp, even before it's been developed, is pretty obviously a town.

Skorm's Son;380976 said:
The "boss battle" IS part of the story. Lucien is a big character in it.
After all, if there was no Lucien, there would be no Fable II.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. Whether there's a boss battle or not, Lucien dies. That doesn't change. The manner in which he dies, however, is part of the gameplay. It's not a component of the conflict or resolution of the story, which make up the plot.

Arseface · Apr 21, 2010

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Necromancer11;381288 said:
Perhaps that wasn't the best way to define a town. The Heroes' Guild has all that, and it's not a town. So no, Twinblade's Camp isn't a town. But we all know what is and isn't a town, and Westcliff Camp, even before it's been developed, is pretty obviously a town.

Whilst I care not for the argument's topic, I am amused by your strategy. You've basically just ignored a very good counter point, whilst acknowledging it at the same time. Amazing.

Besides, I would call the Heros guild a town. It's a settlement, people live there, it has all the things you described a town as needing to have. Same with Twinblades camp.

But most importantly this is the stupidest argument one can have. Why can't you both just enjoy the games?

Karmasb!ch · Apr 21, 2010

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Necromancer11;381288 said:
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Whether there's a boss battle or not, Lucien dies. That doesn't change. The manner in which he dies, however, is part of the gameplay. It's not a component of the conflict or resolution of the story, which make up the plot.

thats true but the end of a game honestly is the most important part, imagine in f3 u go through the fight for the crown then become king then jack comes back all dramatic then u just shoot him once and he falls of the random top of the F***ING, D*** B!TCH ASS SPIRE!....sry bout that but u get what i mean

Arseface · Apr 21, 2010

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Karmasb!ch;381322 said:
thats true but the end of a game honestly is the most important part, imagine in f3 u go through the fight for the crown then become king then jack comes back all dramatic then u just shoot him once and he falls of the random top of the F***ING, D*** B!TCH ASS SPIRE!....sry bout that but u get what i mean

But that's the thing. Jack wouldn't be killed by a single bullet, he's a mystical, ethereal being, capable of a lot of crazy ****. Lucien was just a guy. I sort of like what Lionhead did.

hobbes_pwn · Apr 21, 2010

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Fable II is a brilliant game once you go into depth, but it is hard to get into depth with collectibles and exploring/scavenging the world..

I think Fable III probably needs to lead the player into doing that.

I also recently discovered how cool dies were

Necromancer · Apr 22, 2010

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Karmasb!ch;381322 said:
thats true but the end of a game honestly is the most important part, imagine in f3 u go through the fight for the crown then become king then jack comes back all dramatic then u just shoot him once and he falls of the random top of the F***ING, D*** B!TCH ASS SPIRE!....sry bout that but u get what i mean

I'm not saying that the boss battle at the end of a game is unimportant, I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the story. The end result is the same whether the antagonist is killed by a single bullet or in a massive battle.

Arseface;381356 said:
But that's the thing. Jack wouldn't be killed by a single bullet, he's a mystical, ethereal being, capable of a lot of crazy ****. Lucien was just a guy. I sort of like what Lionhead did.

They did make it more realistic, but an entirely plausible option would have been to have Lucien take control of the weapon by gathering power from Hammer, Garth, and Reaver, and then fight him.

Arseface · Apr 22, 2010

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Necromancer11;381565 said:
They did make it more realistic, but an entirely plausible option would have been to have Lucien take control of the weapon by gathering power from Hammer, Garth, and Reaver, and then fight him.

I do agree they could have done without the whole music box thing, that was pretty lame.

Skorm's Son · Apr 23, 2010

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Arseface;381297 said:
Why can't you both just enjoy the games?

We do.

But there's always room for debate.

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