• Welcome to the Fable Community Forum!

    We're a group of fans who are passionate about the Fable series and video gaming.

    Register Log in

Reaver - Discuss

Status
Not open for further replies.

Pepsiplz

Active Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2010
Messages
85
Reaction score
9
Points
25
Age
36
Why didn't we get to kill Reaver? He is worse than Logan. And yet we haven no choice but to give him contracts!? And you can't even buy his house... Worst part of it all. In Fable 4 there better be a GOOD reason to keep this POS around.
 

Shadowfiend

Of eternal agony, etc.
Joined
Oct 30, 2008
Messages
276
Reaction score
62
Points
90
Age
38
Preach on, brother.

Reaver needs to die and it needs to be an exceptionally brutal death.
 

Kessd

Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2010
Messages
36
Reaction score
8
Points
20
I would love to see Reaver age because he was unable to fulfill his arrangement with the shadow court for whatever reason.
 

Vyan

Active Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
44
Reaction score
15
Points
30
Age
46
I personally think Lionhead really want you the player to relish the opportunity that one day, Reaver will get his comeuppance in the Fable saga. That's how I see it, besides which, I get the impression Lionhead are really big fans of Stephen Fry and they want to him to play a part right up until the last chapter.
 

Arseface

Look at me still talking when theres science to do
Premium
Joined
Dec 28, 2006
Messages
5,471
Reaction score
813
Points
315
Because Reaver is a good character which adds a lot of interest into the otherwise dull plot. If they get hid of him, then the plot suffers.
 

LyNxY yO

Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2010
Messages
139
Reaction score
0
Points
23
He is FIT end of, i wanna marry him, and adopt children, and live in my castle happily ever after, and have the occasional duel;) <3 x
 

Rukishou

Ruler of All
Premium
Joined
Nov 1, 2008
Messages
357
Reaction score
26
Points
80
Age
31
I love Reaver (at least I did back in Fable II), but he certainly does deserve death and nothing else. Have you seen the weird **** he left in his mansion? Mixed with bras and whatnot, there are f--king caged chickens! WE MUST LIBERATE THE POULTRY!
 

DiamondFlair

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
137
Reaction score
27
Points
55
Thats the problem with Reaver. How ever much I want to kill him... I'd seriously miss him too. His as brilliant as he is horrific.
 

Arld

WTB Deus Ex 3
Joined
Nov 5, 2008
Messages
1,158
Reaction score
96
Points
145
Aye agreed here, Reaver is one to be hated a lot, but I'd miss him a lot should he be dead. I don't dislike him personally, especially not in Fable 3.



*SPOILER*
In-fact, I also think that Reaver makes the most sense when you have to cast your judgments about everything you promised. Why do this or that when you can do it the Reaver way?
 

Andrew:D

New Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2010
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
Points
2
Age
33
Honestly, I kind of like what they do for him in this game, although in his book that you return he may have killed Garth or at least tried to :(.
 

Aruu

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2010
Messages
138
Reaction score
16
Points
45
Reaver's the guy you love to hate. He's an infuriatingly charismatic prick who you really want to see get his long deserved comeuppance, but at the same time he adds something vital to Fable 2 & 3; an anti-hero who is running on his own agenda, and no-one else's. Reaver does everything he does for no-one other than him, and that's why he works so well.

There's no darkness to make him make cruel choices like Logan. There's no tragic family death like Lucien. He's just a smug twat who sacrificed Oakvale to escape the only thing he feared, death itself.

I don't think Reaver is evil, in all honesty. That's far too strong a word for him. He's pretty damn far from good too, for that matter. He's just.. well, Reaver.

I think it would have been awesome to fight him, but I don't agree with killing him. He adds something far too strong to the Fable series to just off him like that.
 

Rukishou

Ruler of All
Premium
Joined
Nov 1, 2008
Messages
357
Reaction score
26
Points
80
Age
31
I for one believe Reaver was heavily influenced by Chicken Chaser. This while being heavily harassed by a pair of sadistic and masochistic chickens and therefore developing quite a chicken complex. In other words, he chases and taps chickens. He is the Chicken Tapper. D:

There should have been a royal judgment about this. (A) Liberate the Poultry (X) Tap some chickens with Reaver

And we'd all be way more scarred than the last Fable games already had us. Yay.
 
Joined
Jul 1, 2010
Messages
1,396
Reaction score
227
Points
215
I suppose some people here have a point. Although Reaver is a complete twat, He has an enormous amount of charm and charisma. Plus He's a good character in terms of His background story and I always thought He was the better advisor (even If I didn't listen to Him.) The world would be a very dull place without Reaver type characters to spice it up.

However it would be nice to have the choice to kill Him, or to let Him live if thats what You want as a player. All I know is that there are plenty of players who want Reaver dead, I think those players should at least be empowered with the option to kill Him.
 

Aruu

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2010
Messages
138
Reaction score
16
Points
45
The trouble with having the option to kill him, is that it would split into two different canons. Unless they decide to drop Reaver completely from further games, that is. But given how awesome he is, and how much the creators clearly like him, I doubt that's going to happen.
 
Joined
Jul 1, 2010
Messages
1,396
Reaction score
227
Points
215
They could always do a Mass effect style save transfer, but then again thats probably too much to ask for lionhead.
 

Shoe

Active Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
55
Reaction score
7
Points
25
Thats the problem with Reaver. How ever much I want to kill him... I'd seriously miss him too. His as brilliant as he is horrific.

So, so, so true. However it was easier to hate him in this game than in Fable 2, the only stuff he did to make you hate him in Fable 2 was trick you into making a deal with the Shadow Court, possibly stealing the final boss from you, and KILLING BARNUM. But at the same time whenever I watched him in battle I just found it impossible to hate him when he was so brilliant. Less brilliant this time around but very funny...
 

Rukishou

Ruler of All
Premium
Joined
Nov 1, 2008
Messages
357
Reaction score
26
Points
80
Age
31
The trouble with having the option to kill him, is that it would split into two different canons. Unless they decide to drop Reaver completely from further games, that is. But given how awesome he is, and how much the creators clearly like him, I doubt that's going to happen.
I'm pretty sure the canon storyline is of a Hero who is somewhere between neutral and good, with many references throughout the game that he/she might have been evil. The first game was probably not created with the thought of a long series or anything, so when they made the whole "what will you become?" concept they weren't really concerned with canon. It was "your" story.

Now that it's an on-going series a canon has been established but they option to play as evil remains because it's a landmark feature of the Fable games. One hint/proof of this is the story in Fable III; it's clearly not about an all-through evil monster. At worst, it could canonically be about a more caring version of Reaver (which by the way totally justifies this theory ranting in this thread. *cough*).

The series will always keep references to previous games somewhat vague though, as too broaden what could be considered canon depending on how you played the game. For example, whether you saved Elise/Elliot or the workers--or none--might not be as obvious as what I stated above about the Hero obviously not being an emotionless antagonist-like monster.

Anyway, back to Reaver... LIBERATE THE POULTRY! (Although that's barely on-topic either. Barely.)
 

Pepsiplz

Active Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2010
Messages
85
Reaction score
9
Points
25
Age
36
while I agree he ads something in the beginning, allowing him contracts makes me rage. hes a bad guy! and if he died, surely lionhead could come up with someone else. reaver isnt necessary, but a a bad guy is! i was actually really surprised to see reaver. in f2 i thought he was a jackass but they really turned him into a villian in this chapter.
 

Bluedrake

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
274
Reaction score
8
Points
50


I don't think Reaver is evil, in all honesty. That's far too strong a word for him.

Seriously? Killing artists because he is dissatisfied with their work, stealing the youths of countless people to maintain his, destroying Oakvale, selling out the hero to Lucien, having people slaughtered in his private arena for sport, enslaving children... What more does he need to do to qualify as evil?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top