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  1. Ronok

    Ronok The Axe Platinum Supporter Legendary Hero

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    Seriously, I say things only to get a message across, but people attack my message and destroy the meaning behind it. Right now you're already frantically searching for a typo before you learn something.

    Basically I was on this other forums, and I used some clever symbolism to get a good message out. It was about Jesus and I was using him as a metaphor. But everyone completely attacked me and destroyed my thread, I don't even think they ever understood what I was saying in the first place. You wouldn't read an essay without the conclusion statement. Otherwise just don't.

    Basically I said that Jesus gave up world domination and wanted people to return to the old ways and be insync with mother nature.

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    I said Jesus was the Sun of God, and he sacrificed himself on the cross. Forming the feminine principle. See the meaning, the interpretation? I was using it as a metaphor.

    How many people actually believe Jesus was God incarnate? Exactly, just a parable to get the message across. But everyone attacked my essay saying stupid crap like there is no historical evidence, of course not! Jesus wasn't even written down until 3 centuries after his time by people who never met him.

    I've just been noticing this theme lately, by destroying my typing or historical backing they can ruin the foundation, they're not even interested in what I have to say they just want to argue it out of existence.

    If I said something simple like, humans aren't mammals because all mammals live within their means so humans are a virus. I don't literally mean you are a virus but you'd say something like, humans are homo sapiens, what about bacteria, we discovered the missing link point null.

    It's really dumb. Sure you won you're right you created an argument and voted yourself the winner but you never even got to the point of what I was saying you completely missed target and learned nothing.

    Do you guys ever have problems communicating with intelligent people? Did you even understand the point I was making with this thread or am I truly that horrible?
     
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    queenofdisco Ludna Legendary Hero

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  3. Gikoku

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    Oh no.. please don't let this turn into another religious debate.

    Zarkes, I think the problem here is that you're high and everybody else isn't. Dying on the cross to form the feminine principle, what? I'm sorry, but I'm just not understanding that right now..

    Also, Jesus was the son of God, not the Sun of God.
     
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  5. Tsuyu

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    Honestly? You're rambling. And a lot of it is just stupid. Humans aren't mammals? Even if you use it in a "symbolic sense" it is still a stupid statement. Why not just leave out the "humans aren't mammals" part and just directly state that humans are a virus?



    Or, as Giki-chan suggested, you're high. Very high. On some bad mojo.

    EDIT: No mammal lives within their means. That's why you have to hunt certain species down in order to control their numbers; because if their population sky-rockets they will live outside of their means. It is just that nature usually keeps that an impossibility for most of them.

    Just ask Arseface about the Cane Toad, although technically they aren't mammals they are a good example.
     
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  6. Ronok

    Ronok The Axe Platinum Supporter Legendary Hero

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    I AM NOT DEBATING EVER AGAIN, had enough of that **** haha.

    First off for sake of all intelligent, enlightened people none of the bible is based on any scientific, historical fact. I thought that was already out of the way. They are stories, based off older stories, to get an underlying truth across to the reader.

    Example: 1+1=3
    Freak out!
    One person has sex with another person and has a baby and now there are three people.But saying it like that seems to be even more confusing.

    What I was saying with Jesus was that he gave up his throne as the son of god because of love. Good vs evil forever. Jesus said love is the way. Jesus wanted to bring an end to the war and save everyone who believed in him.

    People worship Jesus as the sun, the lightbearer, the Sun. It's really not a hard stretch to get to that point. Women have no place in society, and even worse in religion. Women can't become ministers. The past two thousand years because of this one man the world has skewed completely out of balance with nature and ourselves. My whole point was what was Jesus' true message, and from there I used my cleverness to point out the sun of God dying on the cross makes the symbol of the female gender.

    I guess I just should've said go Earth. Would've been alot simpler.
     
  7. Ronok

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    See absolutely all of that didn't matter, I was saying humans are bad. A semi wise person would have gotten that from the getgo and then made corrections or say something even more profound. But everyone never even gets to what I meant.

    A penny saved is a penny earned. Everyone can ****ing understand that phrase.

    But banks have a service fee of three dollars. Don't you have to earn a penny in order to save it in the first place? Pennies are worthless nowadays.

    The ****er is saying save money.
     
  8. Tsuyu

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    Unless your in Team Pope, women can become ministers.

    Of course I got what you meant. I even figured out the movie from where you got it. But what I'm saying is that you need to work on how you try and get your point across. As I previously said, your posts really have that "rambling" feeling to them. I'm no literary critic or nothing', but I'm getting the feeling that you're trying too hard to elaborate your points. Try and keep it short and to the point.
     
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  9. Ronok

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    Women didn't get to vote until the 70's or something, black people could vote before women in my country.

    The rule of thumb, if it's not bigger than my thumb it was legal for me to beat the crap out of you with it.

    I was saying in my original thread that the feminine side of life is suppressed and the signs are incredibly noticeable in the health of our planet and society as a whole, and that people have been saying it for along time.

    The point of this thread is that all of you can't process quite frank information and so it's much easier to destroy and dismiss it then rewiring your brain ti accept a new piece of the puzzle.
     
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    Wow, nice job at being incredibly arrogant. For the record, if somebody dosen't disagree with you, its because their opinion is different to yours, and its not that you're just smarter than them and they can't understand. And its than, not 'ti'.
     
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  11. Tsuyu

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    What about black women?

    See, that's what I'm talking about. You really expect to be able to get your point across with cryptic, off-topic, nonsense like that? You are never frank, Zarkes.

    Never.
     
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    Yeah you're just jumping from the problem to a conclusion, assuming people can follow your trail of thought without much hassle. If you're trying to disprove centuries old "mis"conceptions it'll take a bit more than smashing some symbols together.
     
  13. Ronok

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    Forget it you guys. Tsuyu got it I guess.Cool movie though right? What'd you think? The symbolism was really good.

    It's just I'm not the one pulling people into random spin off tangents. I'm the one whose as point blank as possible. What makes me upset is no one ever wants to talk about what I say and believe, whether they're on my side or not. They just seem to debate non objectively. The only reason I ever make a thread is to talk about what's on my mind, see what other people think of it. Not to argue about misspellings and misinterpretations and hard facts. I give examples to try to bolster and hone in on what I'm saying and then people freak out over those and it goes on and on.

    idc anymore.
     
  14. Ronok

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    That was an american saying. Using it as an example of women being put down. At one point in time if I had something in my hand that was no bigger than my thumb, it was legal for me to hit a woman with it without getting charged with beating her. Showing how women were once considered submissive. For some reason I connected women to nature, and one time I saw a movie villianizing women as the antichrist, which made me think of the exact opposite that men are evil because we are destroying the Earth and historically are douches to women who are mothers of us. Bringing me to the bullshit that maybe Jesus died not for light and fire and gasoline but for people to go back to the old ways and so they killed him because nobody wanted to change.
     
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    A lot of people who don't know me probably think I'm dumb and unintelligent as I ramble and mumble and generally stutter on words, kind of like I'm really high or can't think of the words to form my speech, in short I would be a poor public speaker.

    Anyone who knows me thinks the opposite, thinking I'm intelligent. Does **** me off a bit because I do struggle speaking and most people don't have the patience to listen to my full argument before butting in with their opinions. But if someone actually listens I can hold my own against intelligent people, but I don't know many so most commonly I dumb myself down using smaller words and avoid speaking like I think or would do via text on email/forum/instant messaging etc.

    The fact that I have to change what to say from what I was thinking ****es me off as people tend to just then mock my argument, but if I say what I think exactly they walk off saying I'm being too technical or I think too much.

    In short yes I have trouble communicating and dumb myself down to make my thoughts more fluent among regular people who don't want deep thought on the topic.
     
  16. Gikoku

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    You are not point blank, to be point blank one is to be simple and blunt. We get what you're saying, we're not idiots, but as Tsuyu and White Knight said: You clearly have an issue with getting your point across and doing that with cryptic writing isn't going to help anyone, and us disagreeing with you doesn't make us blind fools who don't understand you. It's not like we have anything against you, you just need to work better at that with this problem in mind.
     
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    "Antichrist" by Lars von Trier

    So exactly how hard it would have been to write this in the first place to elaborate your original point?
     
  18. Ronok

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    That is exactly what I'm going through and holy crap you went straight for what this thread was intended for and gave an answer back that I was looking for. Absolutely incredible.
    Because I was talking about Jesus on the cross and not women being witches. If I had said that it was the complete opposite of my original thoughts. And immediately would've been called a sexist.

    My problem is the same basically as Hermit's, I have a hard time changing what in my head sounds crystal clear into writing.
     
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    What am I reading?

    What is this place?

    Did I die? Is this hell?

    WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON?!
     
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  20. Tsuyu

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    I'm getting more of a Limbo-vibe.
     
  21. TRA Rotid

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    See that's your problem again. You were looking for someone to agree with you, completely dismissing the possibility of you being at fault.


    First, you're downplaying the importance of the source, or, how to say it, the basis on which you build your theory on. The whole idea of a solid argument is that you're not bursting stuff out of the blue and even if your example is the complete opposite of what you're trying to say it still strengthens your viewpoint via opposition/contrast.
    Look at this: the complete opposite of what you were saying is actually making your theory a lot clearer. What sorcery could this be?

    As Giki-chan said, we're not idiots, don't assume people think you're Satan for mentioning Jesus on a cross or a misanthrope for putting "human" and "virus" in the same sentence.
     
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