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As a Star Trek fan I'd recommend this movie to anyone it was top notch and full of humor as a bonus. They could have really screwed it up-but they didn't!
It was a cool moment in my life, having never been to a Star Wars release before. I got the 1:40am showing and of course it was packed, we all clapped during the nostalgic moments and it was alot of fun.

I don't recommend seeing it in 3d though it just kind of ruins the hard work of the special effects.
 

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I saw it last week and thought it was great, was really worried when Disney took over and heard new one was coming. However I had faith in JJ Abrams but still thought it could go horribly wrong but it really didn't and can't wait for the next one.
 

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I'm going to see it again next week, in Imax. Though I'm a bit depressed that I have to wait another year for the next one. Absolutely loved it.
 

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I'm going to see it again next week, in Imax. Though I'm a bit depressed that I have to wait another year for the next one. Absolutely loved it.
I thought they were crazy to release a new one every year but now I'm hooked. Just a rumour but apparsntley EA is working on an open world rpg set in the star wars universe.
 

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I thought Force Awakens was my favourite Star Wars film - better than the originals, even. My one complaint... in attempting to pay homage to A New Hope, they basically made the plot far too similar, and it came off - to me - as lazy.
 

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I thought Force Awakens was my favourite Star Wars film - better than the originals, even. My one complaint... in attempting to pay homage to A New Hope, they basically made the plot far too similar, and it came off - to me - as lazy.

Amiral Ackbar tho.
 

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I thought Force Awakens was my favourite Star Wars film - better than the originals, even. My one complaint... in attempting to pay homage to A New Hope, they basically made the plot far too similar, and it came off - to me - as lazy.

I believe this was more of a tactic to give old fans that sense of nostalgia while at same time introducing new characters and bringing back old ones. Was method to appeal to old and new fans alike and it's the next movie where things will start to stray off that path.
 

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I believe this was more of a tactic to give old fans that sense of nostalgia while at same time introducing new characters and bringing back old ones. Was method to appeal to old and new fans alike and it's the next movie where things will start to stray off that path.

Hopefully they will - I have this horrible vision of 8 being a mirror of 5, and 9 being a mirror of 6.

On a somewhat related note, does now make Star Wars one of the franchises with the most films made of it? I'm struggling to think of another franchise with 10 films in it, except American Pie if you count the spinoffs. Which I don't.
 

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Needs more Jedi and Sith though, there are only a few left wouldn't be very Star Wars if the living force goes extinct.
 

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Hopefully they will - I have this horrible vision of 8 being a mirror of 5, and 9 being a mirror of 6.

On a somewhat related note, does now make Star Wars one of the franchises with the most films made of it? I'm struggling to think of another franchise with 10 films in it, except American Pie if you count the spinoffs. Which I don't.

Fast and Furious has got to be getting close. Friday the 13th, The Muppets, Star Trek all have quite a lot.

Can find a list ...
 

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Needs more Jedi and Sith though, there are only a few left wouldn't be very Star Wars if the living force goes extinct.

The force can't go extinct it is in everything, life creates it, it's energy surrounds us, and binds us. But the only real problem is finding people who are force sensitive, then training them enough to control it, and not fall to the Darkside.
 
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Saw it today in IMAX (first IMAX experience, wasn't impressed, would have preferred 2D).

Overall an average movie. Started out well, but had some major flaws that very few Hollywood movies can escape these days. I'd say a solid 5, maybe 6 out of 10.
 

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Kind of torn as to whether to see this or not. As a fan of the original three, and a die-hard hater of the prequels, I really really need this to be awesome or I'll just have to give up.

JJ Abrams is a hit and misser for me - he absolutely destroyed my beloved Narnia, like obliterated it beyond recognition, so I'm really unsure about these films now.
 

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Kind of torn as to whether to see this or not. As a fan of the original three, and a die-hard hater of the prequels, I really really need this to be awesome or I'll just have to give up.

JJ Abrams is a hit and misser for me - he absolutely destroyed my beloved Narnia, like obliterated it beyond recognition, so I'm really unsure about these films now.

I'm a huge fan of originals and hated the prequels too but I loved it. Yeah it retreads some old ground but it feels like Star Wars and has everything I wanted from a Star Wars movie and sets up sequel nicely. Still leaves you with plenty of questions and possibilities to dwell on.

Which version of Narnia did JJ Abrams do? Assuming I'm thinking of the same thing, the 3 movies I have seen of Narnia were directed by Andrew Adamson & Micheal Apted.
 

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Overall an average movie. Started out well, but had some major flaws that very few Hollywood movies can escape these days. I'd say a solid 5, maybe 6 out of 10.

What would you say the flaws were? Sounds interesting considering you say these are things that affect all major movies.
 

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The only flaw, in my opinion is what I've already said and even George Lucas said, it was too retro. Didn't try to do very much new, it stuck to a well-oiled formula. Even so much as to start our new hero off on a desert planet, and have some same sort of plot as A New Hope.

Also, I went to see it again on Wednesday. I wanna see it one more time in imax then I'll wait for my already pre-ordered Blu-Ray copy to arrive.
 

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What would you say the flaws were? Sounds interesting considering you say these are things that affect all major movies.

In this age of TV series, even movies are created in the same vein. Thus there are fewer and fewer movies that feel complete from start to finish. They are ended and left open so that audiences are compelled to come back just to see the next episodes, and not perhaps because the movie was actually that good. Of course Star Wars was created like this from the start, but it still seemed too much like Part I instead of a stand alone movie in a trilogy (also as far as I know Lucas made Star Wars as a cash cow anyway).

Second, movies are very formulaic. They all follow a very similar path, never steering too far from the safe zone. Similarly, there is very little innovation. It is very apparent in the plethora of remakes, reboots, prequels, sequels, etc. we're seeing. It is no surprise TFA is almost an exact copy of A New Hope. People have defended this decision, saying that it is supposed to reintroduce the universe, get us into the "vibe" again and to set up the sequels (first point). To me it simply feels like a convenient excuse to get another free pass and a successful movie. For some reason the prequel trilogy didn't feel the need to have a recap as Episode 1.

Too much action. Instead of exploring the time gap between TFA and Episode 7; shedding some more light on the main characters, or spending time properly developing them, we get one explosion after another. We're seeing solar systems casually being blown up, suns getting drained dry, Deathstar vol. 2 getting destroyed after 10 minutes, the Resistance celebrating victory, the birth of a new jedi, etc. all in one go without any buildup, backstory or suspense. The intense political struggle over the entire galaxy between the Empire/First Order and the Republic is completely lost.

The same can be said about the characters. They are bland and underdeveloped. One of the most interesting things this movie could have done is going in depth with Finn. But instead of actually exploring his path to overcoming the life he was raised into from pretty much birth, we're only given the tip of the iceberg with him suddenly discovering morals out of the blue. Not only that, he is relegated to being a comic relief throughout the movie, only waiting to be saved by Rey. I know they were playing with the gender stereotypes, and it would have been ok if she wasn't written as a Mary Sue. Rey is the worst character in the movie without question. From a desert planet scavenger into a force user, an expert mechanic, an ace pilot and a considerable lightsaber combatant in 1 day. She learns that the force is not a myth and a few hours later can already do jedi mind tricks and block out a Sith apprentice. The general defense to her is "stay tuned for the next episodes of Star Wars to find out why Rey is so badass". I already talked about that. I did like Kylo Ren, I think he was well written.

Also, a more general problem. When Fallout 4 came out, there was a drama about one gaming site giving the game a measly 7 out of 10, when every other review site didn't go below 8. The actual quality of the game aside, there is an apparent problem in the rating system as a whole - scores are extremely bloated. 7 was seen as a piece of s***, while numbers themselves show 7 is way above average and should be considered good. When looking at the scores given to TFA for example, in the last days of December, about 35% of the ratings it got were 10. It currently stands at 8.5 (and slowly dropping). I don't know who in their right mind would rate this movie a perfect 10. When I gave it a "solid 5, maybe 6 out of 10", I'm saying the movie wasn't bad, just slightly above average.
 

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I'll click this thread now that I've seen it-- just got back from the theater in fact. This was a big deal. If the remastered originals being screened in theaters counts, I've seen every Star Wars movie on a big screen. And yeah, this one was great.

The similarities didn't bother me too much. It's been a decade since a Star Wars came out, so it makes sense why they'd want to inspire as much nostalgia as possible to rekindle their audience. Since a lot of us are older, it can be easy to forget that they are also trying to capture a whole new generation into their audience who has never seen a new Star Wars movie.

Damn good sequel. Beats episodes I-III, only someone who saw the originals in their time can really compare it to those. It definitely strikes a modern chord better than they do, but whether that's because it's a better film or because movies have changed so much in the last 40 years beats me.
 
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