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How about that Megaupload?

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It's ridiculous that the US government would go and exercise it's ability to shut it down without a trial first. On the flip side I'm kind of happy that they really don't have a very strong case against them. If Megaupload wins this it'll give websites everywhere ammunition under common law. If they lose it'll be a dark day indeed. We'll just be left asking "who will they be going after next?"

I guess when all is said and done I'm just another person hoping they win.
 
I say bravo to Anon who took down the FBI, Department of Justice, Universal Music, MPAA, and RIAA sites though. Poor show on them for the death threats on the SOPA guy's children though.
 
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I'm kind of sad, While I understand their reasoning and I can't even BEGIN to list all of the illegal things that MIGHT have been uploaded to megaupload. I used to use that website to upload my FMP's for mods and what not, and I can imagine there's more harmless uploads besides mine on there. Also seems unfair without a trial and PSSHH 55 years in jail? Really? What a useless expense to have to pay for. I'd rather see Murderers in jail than some one who "pirated"

As for SOPA and that ****..UGH..I know though just as a precaution I'm going to be spending the weekend saving all my photos from phtobucket, because I'm paranoid.
 
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This is quite some bullshit, the government needs to realize that you can't just go around ceasing anything that you please and without a trial (SOPA is not even in effect yet). It's a scary thing when you see US authorities arresting a Dutch citizen in the land of New Zealand over a copyright claim. Considering the crazy amount of traffic that MU gets, you can't expect them to fully tackle the amount of piracy that goes on in their site (especially when folks like to cleverly rename their files). It is completely inadvertent on MU's part.

It's utterly baffling that they didn't just take them to court and test their legality there. Surely domain seizing becomes more valid once due process has been served.

Really, a glimpse of what's to come if SOPA/PIPA gets passed.
 
I'm just glad that the internet is so ****ing hard to police. Trying to control it's content is really quite ridiculous, and that's kind of the point of it. Even China and Iran can't manage it fully. People will always find ways around filters, blacklists, etc.
 
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I'm just glad that the internet is so f****** hard to police. Trying to control it's content is really quite ridiculous, and that's kind of the point of it. Even China and Iran can't manage it fully. People will always find ways around filters, blacklists, etc.

True, but I don't doubt that if SOPA passes and allows the government to do more nonsense like this on a regular basis, that the punishment could scare a lot of people off who may fear being targeted for inadvertently hosting illegal content (or potentially/intentionally even). There are sites already in the past that have shut themselves down just from a mere lawsuit threat.
 
True, but I don't doubt that if SOPA passes and allows the government to do more nonsense like this on a regular basis, that the punishment could scare a lot of people off who may fear being targeted for inadvertently hosting illegal content (or potentially/intentionally even). There are sites already in the past that have shut themselves down just from a mere lawsuit threat.

I think as long as we have blatant "offenders" surviving and thriving, such as TPB, and as long as Anon keeps its **** up, we'll have some kind of victory.

I'm also curious to see if there's any non-politicians who support these bills.
 
What about Rapidshare, MediaFire, FileTube and the countless other sites just like MegaUpload? If Megaupload were notified about any illegal files being hosted on their site they removed them just like any other site. Yeah there was always illegal stuff around there but would have been impossible to remove it all and with people naming the files generic names it would have been hard to detect too. So I dont see how anyone can bring any lawsuits against them, yes there was lots of illegal user uploaded content on there but there were also a lot more legal files there.

Personally out of everything I dont see why they get so wound up about people downloading and streaming TV shows. I mean as a TV license payer and a person who has a Sky Subscription I can watch most TV Shows on TV. However with a 7 year old and a girlfriend who loves cooking shows I rarely get to watch it. So I download most TV shows online and watch them on my laptop or stream them. How can they accuse me of stealing when ive paid the cash to watch them in my TV license and Sky Subscription? I could record them on Sky+ but then would have to wait weeks until I can get to the TV to watch them. Im not paying extra for Sky multi room thats for sure plus my girlfriend would probably moan if I spent most my time upstairs watching TV, if more channels had catch up options like the iPlayer etc then that would cut a lot of this (granted this is only 1 example of the pirated material they mentioned but its one I use).
 
My dad apparently does, first person I've ever heard to approve of the bill, he says he is one of the "Righteous Few" but then again, He is a fan of Sarah Palin and watches Fox news.
Pff, bwahahah! That's hilar- Oh you're serious :|.



Anway, while I think their intentions are right, SOPA and PIPA are the wrong way to go about governing illegal content. I'm eagerly waiting for the day I get arrested for embedding a YouTube vid on some site that I uploaded myself. Just to shove kick it in their face, that it's my own content. Raahh. )=<
 
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I didn't use megaupload but websites such as these whether big or not
were always chased for many reasons. I really don't agree with what
Anon does, but not with any U.S. Fed action either.
 
Anway, while I think their intentions are right, SOPA and PIPA are the wrong way to go about governing illegal content. I'm eagerly waiting for the day I get arrested for embedding a YouTube vid on some site that I uploaded myself. Just to shove kick it in their face, that it's my own content. Raahh. )=<

I actually disagree. The copyright system in it's current form is absolute bullshit. All content should be free for anyone to use, unless the creator specifically denies permission. There shouldn't be any money involved, at all. As a musician, I'd be more than happy for any of my music to be used by anyone, so long as they gave me credit.
 
I actually disagree. The copyright system in it's current form is absolute bullshit. All content should be free for anyone to use, unless the creator specifically denies permission. There shouldn't be any money involved, at all. As a musician, I'd be more than happy for any of my music to be used by anyone, so long as they gave me credit.
That's why I took my music videos off of youtube. Most of them having Disturbed songs, and one because of the movie Sleepy hollow. I got e-mails about how I had violated blah blah blah. And so on and so forth. But I guarentee if Disturbed had actually SEEN the video and not some cooperation things might have been different, so I totally agree with you there.
 
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Sooooo, btw: How did they find out Megaupload pirated, and then took them down... But the Pirate Bay which has PIRATE in the name is still up? Is Pirate Bay just invulnerable or something?
 
That's why I took my music videos off of youtube. Most of them having Disturbed songs, and one because of the movie Sleepy hollow. I got e-mails about how I had violated blah blah blah. And so on and so forth. But I guarentee if Disturbed had actually SEEN the video and not some cooperation things might have been different, so I totally agree with you there.

Definitely. David Draiman (Disturbed singer) has gone on record many times and stated that he does not mind people downloading his songs as he believes that

a. It makes them interested in his music, so they might buy more Disturbed stuff from, for example, iTunes after having heard a downloaded track.

b. He thinks that the current music industry is evil personified and uses extremely outdated methods of distribution which do not fit the modern audience(granted, this was said before iTunes and other digital download services became mainstream). It is so much easier to download something rather than take a trip to the record store.

So using a Disturbed song for a music video is hardly something Disturbed would get their panties in a bunch over.

Sooooo, btw: How did they find out Megaupload pirated, and then took them down... But the Pirate Bay which has PIRATE in the name is still up? Is Pirate Bay just invulnerable or something?

Duh, it is Swedish. Don't mess with us or we'll set out in the longboats and come git ya. Seriously though, it is not like they have gone unscathed at all. Swedish authorities (no doubt backed up by "the industry") have taken the owners of The Pirate Bay to court countless times to no avail.

Anyway, they issued a press release the other day:

Pirate Bay Founders said:
Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would “do for the eye what the phonograph does for the ear”. He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person to own the copyright to a motion picture. Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent. There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them – like Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: “stole”) other peoples creative works, without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they’re all successful and most of the studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations – it’s all based on being able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create. If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing other peoples rules. The reason they are always complainting about “pirates” today is simple. We’ve done what they did. We circumvented the rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow people to have direct communication between each other, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).

It’s all based on the fact that we’re competition. We’ve proven that their existence in their current form is no longer needed. We’re just better than they are. And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech. We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations. The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe – but we’ve stayed out of the USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this: The word SOPA means “trash” in Swedish. The word PIPA means “a pipe” in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence. They want to make the internet into a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the rest of us obedient consumers. The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you’ll learn that no one wants to be fed with trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that you will stop them, before we all drown.

SOPA can’t do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we’ll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the “problem of piracy” one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they’re creating “culture” but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching movies and tv shows that make them think that they’re fat. In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he’s complaining that Google is the biggest source of piracy in the world – because he’s jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you’d get a more honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.

Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can’t access this information when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We’re sorry for that.

Regardless if you support piracy, it is an interesting read.
 
Saw this on the news during my lunch break.. I find it funny that MegaUpload openly denied the possibility that the site was being used for piracy.
 
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