Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III

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Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III

Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III​

Lionhead has told Eurogamer that work on Fable III is rocketing along at 10-times the pace of Fable II.

In an interview published today, art director John McCormack said having a working engine - albeit one Lionhead wasn't "entirely happy" with by Fable II launch - enabled the team to focus on polish and squeezing the technology that "little bit further".

"[Fable III is] definitely bigger than Fable II by a long way," said McCormack, "but it's bigger in breadth as well. We've got a lot more variation in this one.

"We never had an engine before. Now, with the engine, iteration is faster. We're working at 10-times the speed we ever did on Fable II.

"The framework was there," he added, "and it's the polish now. For us, it's as if they'd started switching things on in Fable III. They'd go, 'Click, there's your specular!' And we'd go, 'Oh look, everything's shiny!' 'Click, there's your normal maps... Ohh!'"

"Working in the dark" with the built-from-scratch Fable II engine, McCormack revealed, was "really scary".

"We'd build things without knowing how it all hangs together - then suddenly the lights are all switched on and you just pray it's not horrible! You'd think, please be like what it was in my head, oh please," he said.

In comparison, then, Fable III development has been relatively "relaxed", thanks to a strong theme and ready-trained team. "We were all raring to go," recalled McCormack.

"That doesn't stop the fact that it was an RPG being developed in, essentially, two years.

Fable III will be released for Xbox 360 on 26th October. A PC version will follow. ​

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[GhostlyIcicle]

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Informative as always Froggy. Good find ^_^

 

[Dark Drakan]

Re: Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III

Glad to hear they have got a good grasp on the tools and technology now.

 

[GhostlyIcicle]

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Glad to hear they have got a good grasp on the tools and technology now.

Definitely. Should make for a better game ^_^

 

[GrimWhim]

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They might be working faster but they're certainly not making better decisions with Fable III.

 

[GhostlyIcicle]

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They might be working faster but they're certainly not making better decisions with Fable III.

How so ?

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III

How so ?

Okay, let me break it down.

The ****-ton of extra pre-order content which means the OCD people like myself who want to have EVERYTHING have to pay out the ass.

The lack of Will lines and instead replacing it with premature aging. Not only is that unfair to players like myself but it's beyond stupid. Why don't they handicap players who use melee weapons or guns?

Huge lore gaps. Why is Theresa still alive? Why and how did the first two (three if you count the Hero of Southcliff) die? What has become of Rose? How is Albion evolving so quickly? There's quite a bit more that's missing as well.

The loss of the fantasy element by attempting to make the game "historically accurate".

Shallow characters and way too much retconning.

I mean, the list goes on but I think you get my point.

 

[POOP]

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Okay, let me break it down.

The ****-ton of extra pre-order content which means the OCD people like myself who want to have EVERYTHING have to pay out the ass.

The lack of Will lines and instead replacing it with premature aging. Not only is that unfair to players like myself but it's beyond stupid. Why don't they handicap players who use melee weapons or guns?

Huge lore gaps. Why is Theresa still alive? Why and how did the first two (three if you count the Hero of Southcliff) die? What has become of Rose? How is Albion evolving so quickly? There's quite a bit more that's missing as well.

The loss of the fantasy element by attempting to make the game "historically accurate".

Shallow characters and way too much retconning.

I mean, the list goes on but I think you get my point.

How do you know any of that, besides the first one about will lines and the "bonus content" (both of which I don't really care about)?

They didn't explain how Theresa was still alive from Fable to Fable II, and that was 500 years (I think it had something to do with her burgling some Mongolian guy's medallion). This is only 50 years after. How do you expect to have an explanation for anything if you haven't played the game yet?

 

[GrimWhim]

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How do you know any of that, besides the first one about will lines and the "bonus content" (both of which I don't really care about)?

They didn't explain how Theresa was still alive from Fable to Fable II, and that was 500 years (I think it had something to do with her burgling some Mongolian guy's medallion). This is only 50 years after. How do you expect to have an explanation for anything if you haven't played the game yet?

You mean aside from all the videos and information floating around?

 

[pkreniles]

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well if they work 10X faster i hope it dosent affect the game badly

 

[POOP]

Re: Lionhead Working 10x Faster on Fable III

You mean aside from all the videos and information floating around?

Yes. I don't think they're supposed to reveal everything about the game before it's released, especially not things involving the story.

Why is Theresa still alive?

As I said before, it wasn't explained from Fable to Fable II, but I think it had something to do with some Mongolian.

Why and how did the first two (three if you count the Hero of Southcliff) die?

I assume you mean heroes of the game. Again, this was not answered from Fable to Fable II. However, I assume the Fable hero died of old age (500 years is long even for a hero of the bloodline or whatever, right?). The Fable II hero dies at the beginning of Fable III. It has (so far) been implied that he/she was killed by Logan, because PM said that the reason for the rebellion is that Logan "committed and injustice to your father or mother".

What has become of Rose?

I figure they'll explain this in the game. I don't know why they'd discuss it before the game's release, especially since she'll have to be a minor character, because only players who chose "Love" will even have a chance of meeting her. Even if they did choose love, she might have died of old age, or maybe she just went on living without meeting the Fable III hero.

How is Albion evolving so quickly?

Sorry, but I don't know how they are supposed to explain this one. Things change over time? The only major difference I've noticed is that there are factories now, which isn't that much of a ridiculous change for 50 years.

 

[GrimWhim]

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Yes. I don't think they're supposed to reveal everything about the game before it's released, especially not things involving the story.


As I said before, it wasn't explained from Fable to Fable II, but I think it had something to do with some Mongolian.


I assume you mean heroes of the game. Again, this was not answered from Fable to Fable II. However, I assume the Fable hero died of old age (500 years is long even for a hero of the bloodline or whatever, right?). The Fable II hero dies at the beginning of Fable III. It has (so far) been implied that he/she was killed by Logan, because PM said that the reason for the rebellion is that Logan "committed and injustice to your father or mother".


I figure they'll explain this in the game. I don't know why they'd discuss it before the game's release, especially since she'll have to be a minor character, because only players who chose "Love" will even have a chance of meeting her. Even if they did choose love, she might have died of old age, or maybe she just went on living without meeting the Fable III hero.


Sorry, but I don't know how they are supposed to explain this one. Things change over time? The only major difference I've noticed is that there are factories now, which isn't that much of a ridiculous change for 50 years.

Oh yes, something about a Mongolian... yes... that not only makes a lot of sense it perfectly explains everything.

Theresa was older than the Hero of Oakvale. How exactly could the Hero of Bowerstone be so easily overcome by his own son?

The "Love" card seems to be the most canon choice of them all so it's only natural to assume Rose is (or was) alive.

Have you seen the clothing? The building styles? They evolve much faster than we do in real life.

 

[DarkONI]

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Well, sounds good. I just hope they don't use their faster development speed as an excuse for in-game bugs, like they did in Fable II.

 

[GhostlyIcicle]

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Oh yes, something about a Mongolian... yes... that not only makes a lot of sense it perfectly explains everything.

Theresa was older than the Hero of Oakvale. How exactly could the Hero of Bowerstone be so easily overcome by his own son?

The "Love" card seems to be the most canon choice of them all so it's only natural to assume Rose is (or was) alive.

Have you seen the clothing? The building styles? They evolve much faster than we do in real life.

The Mongolian 'POOP' mentioned is referring to the time when Theresa was still the 'Bandit Seeress'. He was called Palgan and was a wizard from .. Samarkand? And tried to kill Theresa to steal her powers. Theresa in turn, used her powers in Will to kill him and take his amulet which grants immortality. Or teleports. Or both. Not sure.

The Hero of Bowerstone isn't the Hero of Oakvale's son. He's a descendant.
Rose probably did survive, and was also probably reunited with The Hero of Bowerstone during the 50 year gap. But you'll more than likely find out about all that stuff in Fable III, along with what injustice Logan commited against his father.

 

[Hillbilly88]

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Some people are just haters, /shakes head, 50 years is a looooong time to change building styles or clothes styles, im surprised they arent changed more. i mean 50 years ago what were we wearing? bell bottoms and hippy clothes, look where we are at now, style changes pretty fast esp over a 50yr period, i mean look at your parents year books and see what it was like 20-30 years ago.
besides who cares why is it so important, the only plot holes i dont like are the huge ones in the main story which fable has been pretty good about closing except what thersea wanted with the tower, i dont care why or how she lived so long, in a world with magic anything is possible so its not that big of a question to me.
and i dont care what happens to rose cuz i took the money MF'ers!

 

[Lynne]

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The Mongolian 'POOP' mentioned is referring to the time when Theresa was still the 'Bandit Seeress'. He was called Palgan and was a wizard from .. Samarkand? And tried to kill Theresa to steal her powers. Theresa in turn, used her powers in Will to kill him and take his amulet which grants immortality. Or teleports. Or both. Not sure.

The Hero of Bowerstone isn't the Hero of Oakvale's son. He's a descendant.
Rose probably did survive, and was also probably reunited with The Hero of Bowerstone during the 50 year gap. But you'll more than likely find out about all that stuff in Fable III, along with what injustice Logan commited against his father.

Mr. Grim is a master arguer. I think he must want to be a lawyer, so you're losing a losing battle, Ghost. If he wants to ***** about the game before the game ever comes out, he's doing himself an injustice. The rest of us should sit it out and wait till we can see for ourselves how much it does or does not suck.

 

[GhostlyIcicle]

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Mr. Grim is a master arguer. I think he must want to be a lawyer, so you're losing a losing battle, Ghost. If he wants to ***** about the game before the game ever comes out, he's doing himself an injustice. The rest of us should sit it out and wait till we can see for ourselves how much it does or does not suck.

I could see myself agreeing with that :lol:
It seems most of my arguments are with GrimWhim. We shouldn't really be arguing over the specifics and content of a game that hasn't been released yet.
We should all just wait until Fable III is FINALLY released before arguing.
Although there isn't really much to argue about. Fable III is going to be the game of the MILLENIA :lol:

 

[GrimWhim]

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The Mongolian 'POOP' mentioned is referring to the time when Theresa was still the 'Bandit Seeress'. He was called Palgan and was a wizard from .. Samarkand? And tried to kill Theresa to steal her powers. Theresa in turn, used her powers in Will to kill him and take his amulet which grants immortality. Or teleports. Or both. Not sure.

The Hero of Bowerstone isn't the Hero of Oakvale's son. He's a descendant.
Rose probably did survive, and was also probably reunited with The Hero of Bowerstone during the 50 year gap. But you'll more than likely find out about all that stuff in Fable III, along with what injustice Logan commited against his father.

And where did you find this out? Because it certainly wasn't listed in the original game and I didn't see it in the second game either. Unless they had it in the DLC but since I can't afford to blow $10 every time they release an extra bit of content, it's only understandable that I wouldn't know that.

I never said that, read it again. I asked how the Hero of Bowerstone was overcome so easily by his own son. Why would they need to put that in Fable III? You should have been reunited with her in Fable II rather than a mysterious note that seems to hint that Scythe is taking care of her.

 

[GhostlyIcicle]

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And where did you find this out? Because it certainly wasn't listed in the original game and I didn't see it in the second game either. Unless they had it in the DLC but since I can't afford to blow $10 every time they release an extra bit of content, it's only understandable that I wouldn't know that.

I never said that, read it again. I asked how the Hero of Bowerstone was overcome so easily by his own son. Why would they need to put that in Fable III? You should have been reunited with her in Fable II rather than a mysterious note that seems to hint that Scythe is taking care of her.

Oh, your so hard done by. You can't afford the DLC's, so that makes them all a cheap way to make money and generally crap.

My bad anyway, I thought you were talking about The Hero of Bowerstone and the Hero of Oakvale. Lil brainwave there...

Seeing as you don't know the exact storyline of Fable III, you can't really question what's going to be in it and what isn't.

 

[El Mosqueton]

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And where did you find this out? Because it certainly wasn't listed in the original game and I didn't see it in the second game either. Unless they had it in the DLC but since I can't afford to blow $10 every time they release an extra bit of content, it's only understandable that I wouldn't know that.

The Oracle (Fable:TLC) tell you this.