Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

[Syth the old one]

Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

(this is my personal opinion im sorry if you get offended but i need to say it)

All you Fps call of duty drones out there but games like call of duty and battlefield bad company 2 is driving me nuts. If you want to go kill people go join a war because you all seem to be looking for is pointless violence and I know its appealing because its new and it finally has allowed up to 25 people to play at once but its not just a game. its a simulation of what real soldiers go threw on a unrealistic scale but its still is a simulation but its disturbing that a game will let people to fire a automatic weapon into a crowd of civilians but most people in real life probably wouldn’t actually do it but its planting the seed of this is ok we can kill innocent people because its not us but that desensitization may make the decision for you if you were put in a situation that required you to do something that is morally wrong.

I think that a line needs to defined on how far a game can go under a ma 15+ rating because 15 isn’t the minimum age that gamers are starting to play modern warfare i would say more like 12 or 13 and if as a society that acceptable now then fine but i think that there should be a R18+ mandatory on all military simulations then if 19 is the youngest people can join the military then make it law that you have to be at least 18 to play it

 

[Dark Drakan]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games thew a pile of ****

(this is my personal opinion im sorry if you get offended but i need to say it)

All you Fps call of duty drones out there but games like call of duty and battlefield bad company 2 is driving me nuts. If you want to go kill people go join a war because you all seem to be looking for is pointless violence and I know its appealing because its new and it finally has allowed up to 25 people to play at once but its not just a game. its a simulation of what real soldiers go threw on a unrealistic scale but its still is a simulation but its disturbing that a game will let people to fire a automatic weapon into a crowd of civilians but most people in real life probably wouldn’t actually do it but its planting the seed of this is ok we can kill innocent people because its not us but that desensitization may make the decision for you if you were put in a situation that required you to do something that is morally wrong.

I think that a line needs to defined on how far a game can go under a ma 15+ rating because 15 isn’t the minimum age that gamers are starting to play modern warfare i would say more like 12 or 13 and if as a society that acceptable now then fine but i think that there should be a R18+ mandatory on all military simulations then if 19 is the youngest people can join the military then make it law that you have to be at least 18 to play it

The games have to go through a screening process and ratings board before they are classified and if they feature scenes that are deemed an adult nature the game gets an 18 rating. Battlefield doesnt feature any real blood (so has a 16 rating), yeah you are shooting people (but they arent innocent) but hows that different to playing soldiers as a kid? The scene in Modern Warfare 2 where you kill innocents gets a huge warning before it and you can skip it, personally i dont want to be playing some game where candy and love hearts come out of people when you shoot them.

Ive never believed that games make people violent and i never will. Ive played violent games since i was 10-11 years old (for around 13-14 years) and i turned out perfectly fine. Id much rather have people shooting people in a game than thinking about going and doing it for real.

Disclaimer: Im a big FPS fan by the way.

 

[cheezMcNASTY]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

well, i do hate realistic shooters... but not for violence. i just don't see the point of trying to put something in a game and make it as realistic as possible. when i play video games i seek the opposite of that.

i play:
halo - laser guns, super soldiers, interstellar combat.
mass effect - same things (minus lasers).
ninja gaiden - a ninja in the future who uses magic. far more violence than call of duty or ANY other shooter will be able to touch.
star wars games
SSX
the nintendo classics


if i were to ignore ANY of those for a realistic shooter, i wouldn't feel like i'd been given a fair trade... and the list is incomplete but i think it's long enough to make a point.

 

[Syth the old one]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

ok to quote myself *most people wouldn’t do it* but there are facts that there is a percentile that would just because you wouldn’t doesn’t mean that others may not if put in a situation I never said anything about rampages ether and to quote myself again *this is my personal opinion I’m sorry if you get offended but i need to say it* i never said that shooting people in games are bad I’m just saying that I ME MYSELF just to make it clear think that it needs a higher classification i never said that all shooters should be brought up to that classification I’m just talking about military Sims there are plenty of other games out there that could easily pass the time.

 

[D3m190d]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

I suggest you use punctuation... I have a hard time reading what you're saying. =|

ON topic, though: uhm, I will edit this later...

 

[Dark Drakan]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

ok to quote myself *most people wouldn’t do it* but there are facts that there is a percentile that would just because you wouldn’t doesn’t mean that others may not if put in a situation I never said anything about rampages ether and to quote myself again *this is my personal opinion I’m sorry if you get offended but i need to say it* i never said that shooting people in games are bad I’m just saying that I ME MYSELF just to make it clear think that it needs a higher classification i never said that all shooters should be brought up to that classification I’m just talking about military Sims there are plenty of other games out there that could easily pass the time.

Im not offended by it im just stating my opinion. If you think this way then maybe you should just simply avoid the games and let those of us who do enjoy them play them. Any violent game should be an 18 rated game (and most are) those that are 16 rated are no more violent than a 12-15 rated movie. For example Resident Evil Afterlife (movie) is 15 rated and that will have far more violence and gore in it than Battlefield series thats got a 16+ rating.

 

[Syth the old one]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

fair point i just dont like being the anti scocial prick who goes MW aww **** because most of my frinds like it. millatry shooters are the backbone of PC gaming at the moment its kind of hard to avoid them at lan cafe's and you really can avoid them if you want to play mutiplayer games with more then 3 of your friends.

(sorry i suck gramaticlly and just at english full stop and f its my first language.)

 

[Dark Drakan]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

fair point i just dont like being the anti scocial prick who goes MW aww **** because most of my frinds like it. millatry shooters are the backbone of PC gaming at the moment its kind of hard to avoid them at lan cafe's and you really can avoid them if you want to play mutiplayer games with more then 3 of your friends.

(sorry i suck gramaticlly and just at english full stop and f its my first language.)

Shooters (not just military ones) have always been the backbone of PC LAN gaming since i was a little boy. Easiest games to 'pick up and play' and not have to devote hours into.

 

[Zjuggernaut]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

So you expect us to go join the army to kill real people because you don't like CoD? Well you sir, fail.

Oh and by the way, the age limit is the minimum age you have to be to purchase the game, not play it.

 

[queenofdisco]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

But you can't blame underage kids for wanting to play a game!

Kids/teens will always want to play the new game, if you want to blame any one blame the parents, they're the ones buying the adult games for their children.

And I think its a tad daft saying if you want to kill go and join the army, it's a big genre, whether historic or fictional, cod mw2 is fictional, waw is factual(I think). If there is any call for a stop to game violence I'd go with games based on factual events such as WW2, the Cold war, Iraq, etc.

Films and TV are always doing army based projects, band of brothers for example, was based on WW2 American paratroopers it was brutal, funny and sad. I agree with you in the fact that its on a unrealistic scale, but that's what stories are all about, we will always romanticise these things just so we have an idea away from the brutality and human evil that we're actually stuck in.

And the realism is I think in my own stuck up opinion is just needed, we can't very well keep blood off the games in this age, films are getting more real, you see things alot worse on TV than games, so why keep the scary reality out of games that are pushing for emotional responses just like a book or film.

Its just moving entertainment forward, and for entertainment their will always be the bloody deaths that resemble out soldiers too much, it's not an insult, it's a mark of respect, remembrance.

I don't personally like many genre of games, but please refrain from calling anyone who likes something worthwhile a drone...

Some may see a game made for making a simulation of death and war but I can assure you that's not what the developers have in mind when they make these epic stories with memorable characters and moments.

Thats my penny anywho. *waits for someone to lol at his post*

 

[cheezMcNASTY]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

this deserves to be said. the virginia tech massacre.
many people tried to blame it on the fact that the kid played counterstrike excessively. it just so happened that his favorite movie was Oldboy (one of my favorites as well) which he obsessed with nonstop. he had tons of pictures of himself holding a hammer just like the main character.

it was the result of a decayed sanity. not the fact that he played violent videogames or watched movies that focus on human sanity, but the fact that he obsessed over them. and that's a red flag to any psychologist no matter WHAT the obsession is over.

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

All you Fps call of duty drones out there but games like call of duty and battlefield bad company 2 is driving me nuts. If you want to go kill people go join a war because you all seem to be looking for is pointless violence and I know its appealing because its new and it finally has allowed up to 25 people to play at once but its not just a game. its a simulation of what real soldiers go threw on a unrealistic scale but its still is a simulation but its disturbing that a game will let people to fire a automatic weapon into a crowd of civilians but most people in real life probably wouldn’t actually do it but its planting the seed of this is ok we can kill innocent people because its not us but that desensitization may make the decision for you if you were put in a situation that required you to do something that is morally wrong.

I think that a line needs to defined on how far a game can go under a ma 15+ rating because 15 isn’t the minimum age that gamers are starting to play modern warfare i would say more like 12 or 13 and if as a society that acceptable now then fine but i think that there should be a R18+ mandatory on all military simulations then if 19 is the youngest people can join the military then make it law that you have to be at least 18 to play it

Most shooter games are unrealistic and the ones that ARE realistic are extremely boring. You have a very whacked opinion on war, you can't just run out and kill people and expect to be a hero. The army has rules just like anyone else and if you break those rules, you can't punished. Not to mention you don't get to respawn in real life, once your sorry ass is dead, you stay dead. I rarely play any game for pointless violence but when I get in the mood to mindlessly kill people, it certainly isn't a FPS.

I turn to games like Fable where I can run around and kill every innocent man and woman I like while simultaneously killing off all the guards who try to stop me. Of course, I can also do that in games like Oblivion. They have twice the amount of violence as any FPS game out there.

You think these games desensitize us? Puh-lease. The internet does that much, much better than any game could. Also, it's hard to feel sorry about killing a bunch of no named civilians who just run around.

By the way, no amount of ratings will EVER stop children from purchasing these games. Why? Because the dumbass parents are the ones getting their kids these games and then when the **** hits the fan from their poor parenting, they're quick to point fingers at video game companies.

They don't make these games to train people to mass murder others. They do it to entertain us and to tell stories. Sometimes they want to immerse into the game with all these wonderful graphics and features but again, they don't do it so we can go outside and rape our neighbor's dog and then violently stab a knife into his/her kidneys a thousand times.

 

[Sean]

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So because we like to kill people in Video Games means we should go join in a war and go kill real people? Which will probably result in someone like you saying "Oh my god they massacred, destroyed, slaughtered, laid MASS GENOCIDE on the innocent nice kind nuns of Iraq who were only carrying a care package to meet and greet the SAVAGE WILD UNTAMED EVIL SOLDIERS!" Which would result in the punishment of the soldier doing his job.

You make no sense. You really don't.

Why shoot people with airsoft guns or paintball guns, we should just rob someone, take their firearm and go out and shoot our friends cause we're being just disgusting to this poor man so we should just go kill real people.

Sigh.

 

[Sephiroxas]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

While I do dislike War Video games (because I feel as if they're trying to train and or Brain wash the youngest generation into going into war later in life Like Simulators) I don't feel the need to dump on them that much. I enjoy Ghost Recon, and...Gears of War..is OKAY...But I like Unrealistic shooters like Halo, Half life, and Left 4 dead better...

*My two Cents*

 

[Ryu_the_fox]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

The point of games that allow us to do all these horrible things, is mainly for amusement. And by exploiting this you'd see a drop in violence rather then an increase. Want to go punch someone in the face? Go blast someone's brains off in GTA and laugh about it. In a way it channels our rage and violence into something completely harmless, a common misconception about violent video games is that they make people violent. It's our job as the gamer community to clear these misunderstandings.

 

[Aions]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

i play halo

i kill aliens

i dont afraid of anything

haters gonna hate

 

[Syth the old one]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

look im sorry i shouldnt have said that you should go and kill people in real life by joining a war.

But for once i just wanted to have a rant about how it was anoying me normally i defend the point im making a fuss about and i do think that people do jump to blame video games way to easally and there isnt any comprehensive or sustainable evidence that says that it does any more damage then any other form of media.

I JUST NEEDED TO GET IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM because people jump down your throat as soon as you simply say anything bad about video games i
love games i love playing games but im sick to death at how defencive people get. i know a rating system dosnt work look at smokes and alcahole just because there not 18 dosnt mean they cant get it.

I know for a fact that its not the indestrys fault they want to sell there product they do put ample warning on there classification and i know kids will get what kids want because they will ask and ask and ask until they get what they want.

and i need to apoagize for making blatent unthought threw comments at the start of this thread

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

While I do dislike War Video games (because I feel as if they're trying to train and or Brain wash the youngest generation into going into war later in life Like Simulators) I don't feel the need to dump on them that much. I enjoy Ghost Recon, and...Gears of War..is OKAY...But I like Unrealistic shooters like Halo, Half life, and Left 4 dead better...

*My two Cents*

Lulwot? Do you wear tinfoil on your head to keep the CIA from reading your thoughts? I'm just curious since you seem to think people make games to train/brainwash the young. I mean, they do have a ratings system in place for that sort of thing.

i play halo

i kill aliens

i dont afraid of anything

haters gonna hate

Go back to 4chan you vile beast!

The point of games that allow us to do all these horrible things, is mainly for amusement. And by exploiting this you'd see a drop in violence rather then an increase. Want to go punch someone in the face? Go blast someone's brains off in GTA and laugh about it. In a way it channels our rage and violence into something completely harmless, a common misconception about violent video games is that they make people violent. It's our job as the gamer community to clear these misunderstandings.

You have to remember one thing; the average person is a moron who would sooner put the blame on someone else than listen to reasoning. Therefore, attempting to clear these misunderstandings is pointless and nothing more than a waste of time. In fact, it's better to let them remain ignorant than frustrate yourself trying to teach those slack-jawed neanderthals anything.

look im sorry i shouldnt have said that you should go and kill people in real life by joining a war.

But for once i just wanted to have a rant about how it was anoying me normally i defend the point im making a fuss about and i do think that people do jump to blame video games way to easally and there isnt any comprehensive or sustainable evidence that says that it does any more damage then any other form of media.

I JUST NEEDED TO GET IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM because people jump down your throat as soon as you simply say anything bad about video games i
love games i love playing games but im sick to death at how defencive people get. i know a rating system dosnt work look at smokes and alcahole just because there not 18 dosnt mean they cant get it.

I know for a fact that its not the indestrys fault they want to sell there product they do put ample warning on there classification and i know kids will get what kids want because they will ask and ask and ask until they get what they want.

and i need to apoagize for making blatent unthought threw comments at the start of this thread

Uh... actually, your first post was all about blaming war games for people's violent behavior. I mean, this post directly contradicts your first. Now you seem to have turned around and tried to agree with the majority rather than stand up for what you believed in (regardless of how ignorant it was).

 

[Ryu_the_fox]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

Your keyboard is either ****ed up or you need to pay attention to your spelling. And there's always gonna be ways for kids to get hands on M rated games, but I think the M rating is a bit overrated for some, seeing this growing generation certain M Rated games should be T rated. Like Fable 2. Teens around the age of 14, and 15 won't be harmed. The problem is, any little kid get their hands on a T rated game, Thats why we have an M rating where everyone has to show I.D. If we gave the games the more realistic ratings, the problem would be that kids would get access to T rated games that are a bit Too Mature for them but not for Teens, resulting in a need for and I.D. for T rated games. Now if they Made it so that we need I.D. for T rated games, our lives would be so much easier with much more realistic ratings.

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Military shooters are dragging my like of games through a pile of ****

Your keyboard is either ****ed up or you need to pay attention to your spelling. And there's always gonna be ways for kids to get hands on M rated games, but I think the M rating is a bit overrated for some, seeing this growing generation certain M Rated games should be T rated. Like Fable 2. Teens around the age of 14, and 15 won't be harmed. The problem is, any little kid get their hands on a T rated game, Thats why we have an M rating where everyone has to show I.D. If we gave the games the more realistic ratings, the problem would be that kids would get access to T rated games that are a bit Too Mature for them but not for Teens, resulting in a need for and I.D. for T rated games. Now if they Made it so that we need I.D. for T rated games, our lives would be so much easier with much more realistic ratings.

Most kids will have their parents purchase the games for them and since they don't bother asking whether or not their 10 year old child will be playing a game designed for mature young adults, the ratings are pointless. Even if they did ask there isn't anything they can do about it and I have seen adults blatantly ignore the fact that the game isn't designed for children and buy it anyways.

I literally see it all the time when I go over to GameStop. I have, on several occasions, felt like smashing the back of these parents' heads in with a 2x4. I can get away with it too, I just have to blame it on Grand Theft Auto.