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The Urahara Guide To Changes.

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The Urahara Guide To Changes.

This guide will (hopefully) explain all of the physical and maybe moral changes you can make in Fable II, so if you dont like spoilers then do not read on, as this guide pretty much explains the game, be it very very vaguely.

For starters, when you are little you can change Bowerstone Old Town by either giving the bandit-tramp (as I call him), the arrest warrants (this turns the place into a slum when you grow up) OR walk past him and give them back to the sheriff (turning the Old Town into quite an attractive place of residence, although the tatooist will become unavailable.) Also, at the shop you can either kill the bugs in the stock room, or do what the bandit-tramp says and destroy the stock. I dont know if this has any affect long term, but choose wisely.

In later years, you can either free or sell-out some captives at a bandit camp. Again, I dont know if this has any long-term effects, but it's still a choice. A while after that, you are able to make 3 significant choices BEFORE you go off to the spire.

  1. Oakfield Massacre - help the shadow worshippers destroy Oakfield, or join arms with the temple of light monks and save the temple. (When I say join arms, I mean they let you fight for them. Don't expect any help.) If you destroy Oakfield, it becomes a place of death. All of the trees are permanently dead, and whenever you go towards the temple, undead creatures spawn. Also, the temple is a complete wreck, which is rather sad dont you think? However, if you choose to go a few rounds with the shadows, you will greatly modernize Oakfield, it will have a brand new temple en-suite, and there will be a housing estate near to the sculptors. As for the shadows, when you go there it is full of fog and there are numerous shadow creatures to fight, including a banshee. I'm not sure if you can use the sacrificial wheel, I'll need someone to post me on that.
  2. The modernization of Westcliffe - You meet Barnum, the photographist from your childhood and you can give him 5000 gold to improve Westcliffe. If you make the investment, when you come back from the spire he will come up on your quests again and he'll give you, 15000 gold in payment. As well as not being a bad investment, this will make Westcliffe look a bit more attractive, although the tatooist will no longer be available. Also, in the shooting range you will get points for shooting bandits instead of the innocents. This is a lot easier than if you hadn't modernized Westcliffe, but read through the link for more on that.
  3. I totally forgot what the third one was. I'll get back to it later :wacko:
The next choice you encounter is that you may or may not help the young woman in Wraithmarsh. By this, I mean when Reaver sends you off with the seal to the shadow court, do you give it to her and peg it, or keep the seal and get some cool red eyes and a dodgy face? Not a biggy, but there you have it.

Then there IS the 'biggy.' When you (or Reaver) has killed Lucien and Theresa comes and offers you one of three wishes, what do you choose?

  1. The needs of many - Bring the people who died in the making of the spire back to life. I believe you would get a lot of respect from Hammer, as she flames you for whatever else you choose :(. You also get a statue built in Bowerstone Old Town of you, and a lot of people's love.
  2. The needs of few - Brings your family back to life. You get your dog back, and a note from Rose saying that she is alive and well, etc. In my most humble and honest opinion, this decision is crap because you can get your dog back on Knothole, and a note isn't your family back, is it? :rolleyes:
  3. The needs of one - More money than you can imagine. Divided by 100000000000000000000000. Yes, you get one million gold pieces, and a lot of hatred from people. Not the worthwhile choice, unless you haven't bought anything to rent out, and you're skint and evil.
If you want my opinion, and if you dont you're getting it anyway, the best choice is number one.

If you want a guide for how to get Good/Pure, Evil/Corrupt, Good/Corrupt or Evil/Pure, then mix and match with this. And while I'm here I may aswell advertise my Fable2.com item and games guide.

Credits:

This guide is courtesy of the Urahara Shop.

Credit goes to Ryu_Hayabusa for the guide I nicked.
Credit goes to Hexen_Harlot for donating figures.
Credit goes to darkskxcher for donating Barnum's name.
Credit goes to Dagzey for donating other consiquences for certain actions.

Feel free to pm me or post with suggestions for the guide.

End Credits. (Try to imagine those as going down your screen slowly as some crappy music plays. You'll get the jist, and appreciate why they're so short)
 
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Good guide but when I brought my dog back from Knothole Island my first profile in fable 2 was permanently glitched and I don't mean the good type of glitch, I mean the one that basically destroys your profile, glitch.So it would probably be better to do the love choice instead of risking your game and getting it glitched really bad just to have made two choices in the game.Sorry if my post was of any inconvience to your thread,it's a good guide and all but the Knothole Island ressurection shrine is the most glitchest part in the game.Good guide though.
 
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It was only glitchy for your game though, I haven't read anywhere that it's happened to anyone else, and nothing at all happened when I did it myself.

Anyone have any ideas for the figures/the brain cell that I lost about the 3rd change?
 
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fable freak 37;278515 said:
Good guide but when I brought my dog back from Knothole Island my first profile in fable 2 was permanently glitched and I don't mean the good type of glitch, I mean the one that basically destroys your profile, glitch.So it would probably be better to do the love choice instead of risking your game and getting it glitched really bad just to have made two choices in the game.Sorry if my post was of any inconvience to your thread,it's a good guide and all but the Knothole Island ressurection shrine is the most glitchest part in the game.Good guide though.

That's your game. That didn't affect anyone else.

Good guide Urahara. +rep
 
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Cheers :lol:
 
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You missed out on the T.O.B.Y quest one that changes Bloodstone.
 
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That's the thing though, it doesn't change bloodstone whatsoever.

I was waiting for someone to say that, well done. I haven't made a dunce hat. Put it in your custom user title instead; "Dunce" :lol:
 
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Urahara;278534 said:
That's the thing though, it doesn't change bloodstone whatsoever.

I was waiting for someone to say that, well done. I haven't made a dunce hat. Put it in your custom user title instead; "Dunce" :lol:
I haven't even done the quest though.I just heard someone saying that the T.O.B.Y quest changes Bloodstone,but even if it did change Bloodstone I wouldn't do the quest.But what happens during the quest or at the end of it if they don't change Bloodstone?
 
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^ A guy tricks you into stealing him food, wine and to get a whore by telling you he'll use them all in a ritual to clean up bloodstone. At the end of the quest you either kill him or scare him out of town.
 
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Urahara;278551 said:
^ A guy tricks you into stealing him food, wine and to get a whore by telling you he'll use them all in a ritual to clean up bloodstone. At the end of the quest you either kill him or scare him out of town.
So it's a funny-weird-evil quest.Heheheh.I think i'll scare him half-way out of town and then kill him.(hehehehe)Lol!
 
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^I still require you to replace Ninja with Dunce :ninja:
 
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The third choicey quest is whether to destroy or improve Giles' farm. And the investment money is 5000 in, 15000 return.
 
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Wasn't thinking about giles farm, but thanks for the figures.

EDIT: You're on the credits now :thumbsup:
 
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Urahara;278501 said:
  1. The modernization of Westcliffe - I can't remember his name, but you're able to go to westcliffe and pay someone 5000 gold. If you make the investment, when you come back from the spire the man will come up on your quests again and he'll give you again, 15000 gold in payment. As well as not being a bad investment, this will make Westcliffe look a bit more attractive, and in the shooting range you will get points for shooting bandits, and not the innocents. This is a lot easier than if you hadn't modernized Westcliffe, but read through the link for more on that.
That someone is Barnum further very nice guide information thing;) +rep
 
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to each positive, there is a negative.
for bowerstone old town and westcliff, if you improve those towns, the tattoist will no longer be available. no biggie, i know, but some people like the tats. unfortunately IMO, the best ones are in westcliff. therefore, if you decide to get a tatto in westcliff, then give barnum the mney, it becomes pointless getting those tats, because when you start at the spire, those tats are gone, and never to be seen again.
now, to oakfield, if you save the temple of light, you can no longer make sacrifices to the temple of shadows, because the temple is overrun with shadows, and you can't take your sacrificees to the circle. they will be killed by the shadows upon entry. overall though, it is still better to improve these towns, even if it is only for the financial and moral benefits.
anyway, nice job urahara.
 
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Bump for usefulness.
 
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