I'm not convinced that one can't get there in the game.
It may be possible. I couldn't tell you for certain, never having owned or played the very original Fable.
As for the screenshots, I was not talking about any in-game pictures. I was referring to the original dragon itself. The assets exist in the original, but not the definitions and so it couldn't be implemented in-game. There have been efforts to bring this dragon to TLC, unsuccessful and very humorous efforts. It should be possible, to be honest. It just wouldn't be a very lively creature. Anyway.
Here's a couple renders.
So does that mean that there could be a brief clip where the singing sword is mentioned in the game? or maybe a reference to it of some kind?
No. That a string of text is in the files means nothing by itself. It has to be used somewhere. It isn't used anywhere in the game.
Oh that! Yes. That is real. Apparently it can happen in TLC too.
The scimitar is nothing special, it's one of many bandit weapons and through a glitch the player is able to get this one. All weapons in the game, whether accessible to the player or not, will be named. Most of them have the same inventory data, which means they'll all have the same name. If you were to get all the weapons that exist in the game via modding, you'll find that tons of them are called Scimitar, which just means sword.
Not good enough for me :shifty: I need to here it from the horses mouth. I emailed LionHead Studios about these things, hopefully I can get a response , they owe it to the fan base to tell us the truth. I'll post there response here if I get one.
Maybe I'm naive or just plain ignorant, but I still think there are some of these things in the game and can be found without mods, you said modders found lines of code for these things, doesn't that mean that the objects or some piece of them are in the game then?
Hmm. Naive and ignorant. Modders are going to know more about the game than the developers. Developers only know about the stuff they worked on. Designers are only going to know about the stuff they told people to work on, and sometimes don't know if it was ever done or not. Players know what they see. Modders do too, but the difference is modders see
everything. The big picture.
There are multiple stages of development, I'll run down the skim milk version for you.
Concept. Some idiot on the dev floor has an idea, starts writing up stuff for it. This is where you'll see obsolete text entries (singing sword).
Play dough. Because an idiot had an idea, the artists have to carve it out and make
something that will probably never be used. This is where you'll see models and textures, like the dragon.
Realization. None of that matters until one of the programmers actually makes definitions for the thing. At this point, it becomes a real, recognizable and usable thing. Here's where you'll find, well, definitions. Not sure how to explain that. It's the 1s and 0s that make up the quests and objects and npcs and cities and stuff. I want to mention the bard quest, but it wasn't ever really finished.
Implementation. And obviously that doesn't matter either if it's never put into the game. Here someone in scripting will implement these things via quests or map scripts. Lots of things don't make it this far. Like the Harvester, or pump action crossbows, or throwing bombs, or the Slayer sword, or adrenaline potion. All completed items, never put in the game. And the two other weapon augments, one of which makes the player have different animations. I can't explain that one, but that's what happens and I think it's cool.
Recap.
Your singing sword is just a text entry. There's nothing for it.
Sandgoose, inside joke, doesn't exist.
Scimitar, finished and implemented object not meant to be accessible by the player, but possible via glitch.
Dragon cliff. Exists. Inaccessible in original Fable without
exploits. Having to choose my words wisely.
Random demon door, you still need to explain that one to me.
Modders are in every way better than the horse's mouth. Especially in this case where the horse's mouth and the horse's ass are often confused for one another. Aside from the fact that modders will actually give an answer, modders also like to be right. If I was lying, or giving incomplete or untrue information, another modder will jump on the opportunity to prove me wrong. But for these matters, it's a dead horse you're beating here. Anyone who knows will tell you the same thing.
Edit: Forgot to add. Just about everyone who worked on Fable/Fable: TLC are no longer employed at BBB or Lionhead. So asking them, even if they answer, might just result in a lot of people not knowing what you're talking about.
. Rumor has it you can get it in the bandit camp. One of the bandits set it down, and you can then pick it up.
