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[Necromancer]

I believe in higher truth I imagine everyone must.

I don't, not absolutely anyway. I believe the existence of some kind of higher power, deity, supreme being, etc. is entirely possible, but there is no way of knowing, so I also believe it's entirely possible that nothing like that exists at all. There is one thing I do believe absolutely though. No religion of today's world or of the past has/had it right.

Zarkes, anyone ever told you how insane you sound at times? I cant make any sense of what you just wrote...

It's difficult for me to understand most of what he wrote as well, and not just in that last post.

 

[Zarkes]

Everything you can't come to understand is nonsense. Yes I am insane. More like out of sane. Words are funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOHy-kLgxDQ
idk anything at all and making any sense of it is a fools endeavor so Im just gunna keep sailing till I hit the wall. So, goodbye, or hello... I dont know?

For you see I am cross eyed. +--
So just find humor in me Im as harmless as a fly. I would love if there was someone out there who understood me. Love is all I care about thats the basis of every stupid thing I say ever. Also laughter, goodtimes, and a good Joke. If love is not true then I am the greatest deciever of mankind for my generation.
I am compelled to act this way, I am a Hero after all :thumbsup:

 

[Tsuyu]

Ｅｈ，ｔｈｅ　ｅｘｉｓｔａｎｃｅ　ｏｆ　ａ　”ｈｉｇｈｅｒ　ｐｏｗｅｒ”　ｏｒ　ｔｈａｔ　ｏｆ　ａ　”Ｇｏｄ”　Ｗｈｉｃｈ　ｒｕｌｅｓ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｅｖｅｒｙｔｈｉｎｇ　ｈａｓ　ｐａｓｓｅｄ　ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈ　ｆｏｒ　ｍｉｌｌｅｎｎｉａ　ｉｎ　ｈｕｍａｎｉｔｙ．Ｔｈｅ　ｆｕｎｎｉｅｓｔ　ｆａｃｔ　ｉｓ　ｔｈａｔ　ｅｖｅｒｙ　ｃｉｖｉｌｉｚａｔｉｏｎ　ａｌｌ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｏｒｌｄ　ｈａｓ　ｅｘｐｅｒｉｅｎｃｅｄ　ｓｉｍｉｌａｒ．．．Ｓｔｏｒｉｅｓ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅｉｒ　ｂｅｌｉｅｆｓ．

That's because early man tried to make sense of something he didn't understand. If you go back - way back - you'll notice that everyone worshipped the sun and/or the moon at one point. They didn't know what that glowing thing up there was, so it must be magical/divine. The Mayans did it. The Egyptians did it, and so did many more.

Then we learnt what it was and sun/moon worship vanished.

It really hasn't anything to do with there being some built-in religiousness in humanity, but a desire to make sense of what we don't understand.

 

[Dentie]

 

[Zarkes]

^I agree. But if there is nothing or no truth theyre wouldnt be so much opposition for me to continue discovering it. If I got up and walked out into the desert right now no one would stop me. Because there is nothing out in the desert.

Man is animal? Alright everything says so and their is proof to back it up.
But why is man the only animal to get up off his ands and knees and look towards the sky. No other animal looks up.

I will always ask WHY and WHAT IF. End of my story.

 

[Tsuyu]

Ｉ’ｍ　ｎｏｔ　ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ　ｔｈａｔ　ｈａｓ　ｂｅｅｎ　ｂｕｉｌｔ－ｉｎ　ｈｕｍａｎｉｔｙ． 　Ｉ’ｍ　ｓａｙｉｎｇ　ｔｈａｔ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ，　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｌｏｎｇ　ｌｏｓｔ　ｐａｓｔ　ｈａｓ　ｈａｐｐｅｎｅｄ，　ｏｎ　ａ　 ｇｌｏｂａｌ　ｓｃａｌｅ　ａｎｄ　ｈａｓ　ｂｅｅｎ　ｐａｓｓｅｄ　ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｇｅｎｅｒａｔｉｏｎｓ．

Oh that. We call it silly superstition.

 

[Zarkes]

Ｉ’ｍ　ｎｏｔ　ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ　ｔｈａｔ　ｈａｓ　ｂｅｅｎ　ｂｕｉｌｔ－ｉｎ　ｈｕｍａｎｉｔｙ．　Ｉ’ｍ　ｓａｙｉｎｇ　ｔｈａｔ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ，　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｌｏｎｇ　ｌｏｓｔ　ｐａｓｔ　ｈａｓ　ｈａｐｐｅｎｅｄ，　ｏｎ　ａ　ｇｌｏｂａｌ　ｓｃａｌｅ　ａｎｄ　ｈａｓ　ｂｅｅｎ　ｐａｓｓｅｄ　ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｇｅｎｅｒａｔｉｏｎｓ．

Ｉ’ｍ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｃｏｎｃｅｒｎｅｄ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｔｈａｔ　ｌｏｎｇ　ｌｏｓｔ　ｐａｓｔ．　Ｗｈａｔ　ｈａｐｐｅｎｅｄ　ｂａｃｋ　ｔｈｅｎ？Ｗｈｙ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ａｒｅ　ｍａｎｙ　ｃｏｉｎｃｉｄｅｎｃｅｓ？

Jesus said: Whoever looks for the end will not find the kingdom, he who looks for the beginning will find the kingdom because the end is the same as the beginning.

In almost every religion there is a flood event. Miraculous farfetched legends of Atlantis and other pasts of a time of complete bliss.

The Old Kingdom is all around us. And we dont know wth happened. I gots me theories but that is a more tangled web then religous debate.

 

[Tsuyu]

In almost every religion there is a flood event.

Yeah because pretty much all around the globe floods do occur, y'know? Also I am not aware of any other religion than Christianity(perhaps it exists as a side-not in Islam and Judaism too, since they are pretty much linked) that deals with a flood. You got any examples?

 

[Zarkes]

Epic of Gilgamesh, Enoch, Japanese cultural myths, Atlantian legends. Im suuure scientology but that one doesnt count. Hopi indians have a global flood myth and 3 other global catastrophe myths, in their belief we are living in the fourth world. If that is not enough examples I understand.

Yes, there were advanced civilizations that existed longer than 13000 years ago. They got the pottery and carbon dating to prove it.

 

[Tsuyu]

No, no there weren't. That was the neolithic period which translates into late-stone age. I don't think anyone, in the face of civilizations such as Ancient Egypt, Greece or Rome, would call a stone age civilization "advanced".

 

[Zarkes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AABPXvwevVA

They werent neolithic they were megalithic. What you think egyptions just BING and decided to build pyramids?
Now in this video the people are trying to use this as evidence for aliens just hang on till it gets to the scientist with a Phd.

Old Kingdom.All around.

 

[Tsuyu]

Oh take that tinfoil hat of your head, you're looking silly.

• Megalithic? That just means something built out of big stones/rocks. It is not a time period like Neolithic.
• The pyramids doubles as monument and grave-site for the god-kings of ancient Egypt. If you'd just take the time to read up on their beliefs on the after-life it makes perfect sense.
• The Chariot of The Gods is an interesting read, but the theory presented is highly implausible.

 

[D3m190d]

Oh take that tinfoil hat of your head, you're looking silly.

• Megalithic? That just means something built out of big stones/rocks. It is not a time period like Neolithic.
• The pyramids doubles as monument and grave-site for the god-kings of ancient Egypt. If you'd just take the time to read up on their beliefs on the after-life it makes perfect sense.
• The Chariot of The Gods is an interesting read, but the theory presented is highly implausible.

I'm mainly on your side, but the video he posted was pretty interesting.

The only part I don't like is the people watching it (like Zarkes) that make assumptions of things they want to be true. There are only some things presented, and yes, they are pretty impressive I guess. But you can't say more than that. You can't make assumptions.

 

[Tsuyu]

Which is why I said "Chariot of The Gods is an interesting read, but it is a highly implausible theory."

There is as much proof of aliens building these things as there are gigantic pink humanoid elephants building them.

Also I find it kind of insult towards these great old civilizations when we naturally assume they were not capable of making these amazing things. Because they were stupid dumb savages, right?

 

[Zarkes]

Damn it, I just wanted to present the fact that their were intelligent civilizations before the pyramids were built. If you watch the whole thing it goes to one acredited scientist whose answer is that the same techniques are invented and rediscovered all around the world all the time.Which makes so much more sense then aliens, agreed?

I wasnt trying to say aliens exist with something that has nothing to do with aliens. If I wanted to prove aliens exist I'd get my hands on something more then a dim light in the sky.Go back to my post I warned you they would tie that in and that wasnt the reason I posted it and I dont want that to be the focus of the vid.

I was just trying to use the point that pumu punku, like the pyramids cant even be built today in our modern world so how is it that we are the smartest generation Earth.

All I was trying to do was say that their was a civilization of man predating recorded history who were just as intelligent if not more so. There was an Old Kingdom.

But yeah my bad I shouldve warned you better about the UFO cooks just that that was the only people I know who investigated pumu punku in my realm of knowledge.

To Tsuyu, yes I made megalithic up although it is a real word meaning something else. I was trying to say humans were always more then savages you were the one calling them neanderthals, that club caveman stuff is not entirely true.
I also liked chariots of the Gods it was the only book I've read that made me think aliens could be plausible. But know that the author Van Daniken was caught with counterfeit artifacts and admitted he was lying. I do not follow beliefs blindly.

And also Ive independantly studied the pyramids my whole life they are truely phenomenal structures and I know all about the nile and crossing over and their beliefs on Gods and such. Actually alot of our traditions today were practiced by Egyptions and its really cool tbh.

 

[Zarkes]

I assure you I am not exaggerating. I have a plethora of knowledge about the pyramids all true and scientific that goes far beyond "Its a big tomb, slaves rolled the bricks up there..probably"

Ancient civilizations-smart, gone now. It wasnt just a tomb and the farther back in time you go the more bewildering and complex man made structures and their purposes become.

 

[Zarkes]

I know its just Ill say something that is apparent to me, people will not understand so I explain then they criticise my explanation and put me out to be a liar so then I show them evidence. Really I like learning and I love sharing what I have learned. Im not trying to belittle anyone. I prize the day somebody teaches me something they know that they didnt learn in public school, something treasureful.

My teachers always said teaching is the best way to learn. Just in my life I feel people are so closed minded and Im a free thinker. I like throwing people a rope or lighting a candle. Im a philosopher only not the real kind.

I know you people are not stupid and I dont mean to offend people. I just try to state things simply the first time around and thats where I seem to get introuble. People quote what I say then write about it and people follow the quotes instead of what I originally post and usually when Im 'called out' the person doing so has completley missed the point of what Im saying.

But I do realize Im bieng forceful with my opinions and thats not fair. You ask for a cup of water and I dose you with a hose. So I apologize for babbling and only bringing forth confusion that was not my intention. Maybe whats true for one isnt whats true for all so again I apologize I dont mean to be an ass about it.

 

[D3m190d]

I know its just Ill say something that is apparent to me, people will not understand so I explain then they criticise my explanation and put me out to be a liar so then I show them evidence. Really I like learning and I love sharing what I have learned. Im not trying to belittle anyone. I prize the day somebody teaches me something they know that they didnt learn in public school, something treasureful.

My teachers always said teaching is the best way to learn. Just in my life I feel people are so closed minded and Im a free thinker. I like throwing people a rope or lighting a candle. Im a philosopher only not the real kind.

I know you people are not stupid and I dont mean to offend people. I just try to state things simply the first time around and thats where I seem to get introuble. People quote what I say then write about it and people follow the quotes instead of what I originally post and usually when Im 'called out' the person doing so has completley missed the point of what Im saying.

But I do realize Im bieng forceful with my opinions and thats not fair. You ask for a cup of water and I dose you with a hose. So I apologize for babbling and only bringing forth confusion that was not my intention. Maybe whats true for one isnt whats true for all so again I apologize I dont mean to be an ass about it.

I have read what you said so far, and I'm not offended, don't feel like you forced anything and like the fact that you are interested in such things. The only thing I didn't like was when you said 'Old Kingdom' (with capitals), in addition to talking about God. This made the impression that you wanted to connect the ancient structures directly to religion and that there is something spiritual about it. I don't know if that was your intention or not.

 

[Zarkes]

Thats the fine line I walk, I am very spiritual and religous although I think of it as a lifestyle "If you go on this crusade you are garanteed to go to heaven" No, I dont think so. I am not apart of the cult like things that surround what I believe.

Ive found the truth and Im saved and I want you to be too!!!!!-This is where I take it too far I forget myself and start almost preaching. I believe an Almighty God created everything so everything is a sign from God. So I try to convince people of the spiritual and scientifically there is no connection.So thats what I was apologizing for.

But I wasnt relating God or aliens to the pyramids.

I was saying many ancient cultures believe in a global flood event and yes it could all just be coincedence. But I was trying to prove God's wrath or something I was trying to say their were stunningly intelligent civilizations long ago and Idk why but almost all of it is gone now with only their monuments lasting the test of time.

I started coining the 'Old Kingdom' from Fable cause it always had ancient ruins about and never explained why they were there. Theresa tells you there were people before who lived in a perfect society but the Archons became sick and bieng magically connected to the world the world started becoming corupt, when the spire was built it was supposed to be the greatest magical achievement of all time and it wiped everything out. and nobody knows for sure what really happened and why it happened.

It was a parable that helped me explain ancient civilizations now lost.

But this is just me saying yes I do have to stop throwing the bible at people.

 

[Angel]

I got hit with a bible once. Hurt quite a bit, as it happens...