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According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

I think with 500 years of history thrown into the mix most of the quotes in the game about the old kingdom are just speculation anyways because the game also says that no one knows anything of the old kingdom because it was to long ago. I think pm did a great job on the game just wish that he would of put a little more back story to it. But from what im guessing is that in the third installment of the series he will either make a prequel to two that makes up for the 500 year difference or he will continue the story from 3 and make 3 an epic ****ing game that is filled with twists and history from the first one thrown in just to make things more intersting. So either the third game is going to be the best fable ever with huge friggin epic battles in it or.........its just going to suck
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

I honestly think that considering the world was done in by the spire, 500 years has passed and all stoofs to do with the hero are gone, peeps would get a tad mixed up would'nt they?
btw has any1 noticed how twinblades bones and tomb is in the game but no1 elses is?
I'd love to be able to find the guildmasters bones or somthing... so i could carve more stuff in to his annoying little skull!!!
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

it's just lionhead not refering to there own story...
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

i'm just kinda wondering about the spire. theres nothing even remotely close to the spire in the original and then years later heres the almighty spire!!
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

aceshigh2890;272737 said:
i'm just kinda wondering about the spire. theres nothing even remotely close to the spire in the original and then years later heres the almighty spire!!

Tattered spire and snowspire are 2 different things. I used to think they had something to do with each other but sadly they don't :(
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

aceshigh2890;272737 said:
i'm just kinda wondering about the spire. theres nothing even remotely close to the spire in the original and then years later heres the almighty spire!!


The spire was used years before the first game by the Archon, the last of the old kingdom monarchs. At first I thought that the spire was in the first game as well. Lionhead should really give a more detailed backstory.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

I agree with White Knight they needed to do a better job of explaining the history of the story a bit more.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

What about that thing in Snowspire that gave you answers to things? The Oracle? Could be Spire-related. Just a thought.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

aceshigh2890;272737 said:
i'm just kinda wondering about the spire. theres nothing even remotely close to the spire in the original and then years later heres the almighty spire!!
Woody explained it as we were in different places in TLC, and Fable 2 has Oakfield, that didn't exist in TLC. Different part of Albion, except they destroyed Oakvale and the shadow court is now in power. :(
I hope I wrote that right. The old places aren't gone, like Snowspire, they just aren't mentioned.:)
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

Hexen_Harlot;272998 said:
What about that thing in Snowspire that gave you answers to things? The Oracle? Could be Spire-related. Just a thought.

The oracle had nothing to do with the spire. Neither does snowspire.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

Zencidal;257054 said:
If you read of of the books, I think it was the hero of Oakvale. It says the Hero (protaganist from Fable) used the sword of aeons to defeat Jack of Blades. But in order to obtain the sword and use it to fight againts jacks. You have to Kill ure Sister. So it's kinda strange Theresa is back. I think Lionhead didn't really take alout of time to look at fable 1 before they created the story.
You don't have to kill your sister. I defeated Jack without it, with the sword from the Unknown hero, I think it was called.:unsure:
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

moonfever;273231 said:
You don't have to kill your sister. I defeated Jack without it, with the sword from the Unknown hero, I think it was called.:unsure:

Zencidal means that to get the sword of aeons you have to kill your sister to be able to use it.

Also if you have TLC then you will get avo's tear if you choose to destroy the sword, which might mean that Lionhead may've gotten mixed up and said it was the swords of aeons that was used by the hero instead Avo's tear by accident.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

White Knight;272633 said:
I think "Your health is low" is a reference to the first game. The guildmaster would keep on saying "Your Health is Low". Its probably a joke made by one of the developers.



And this whole time I thought it was from the game Fate.... Oh well.



ANYWAY. It would make sense for Theresa to be in this game. In the first game she was blinded, and in Fable 2 there are plenty of references to the fact that her eye sight is lost. In fact right in the beginning of the game, when the that dude Murgo, or whatever comes, your sister rose says something about her eye sight. Not only that, but im MORE then postive Theresa was granted immortally or some seeing powers in the first game.



Anyone notice how the old Heroes mother was named Rose and your sisters name is Rose?:ninja:
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

heres my two pennies worth.
Theresa (Fable and Fable:TLC) had visions as a girl, and says to the Hero of Oakvale that she could forsee a terrible choice that the Hero of Oakvale would have to make. surely, if you had this happen to you, you would make precautions to yourself to ensure that you would survive?
Therefore, i think that Theresa went to the Shadow Court (sometime between living with the bandits to being kidnapped by Maze) and offered her soul for Immortality. (we dont know if the Shadow Court was in effect at that time, but its a reasonable guess that they were there, just deep underground, forgotten and undieing)
Theresa probably sold her soul to the Shadow Court (much like Reaver) in return for Immortality. she then lives after the kill made by the Hero of Oakvale (her being knocked unconsious for a while, or just being brought back alive.) (if good then she dissapears to the Shadow Court and serves them, perhaps if the Vow she makes cannot be broken? also, the Sword of Avo is the good version of the Sword of Aeons, except that no-one except Maze knew there was 2 swords, so Avo would still be called Aeons by the villagers, hence Jack being killed by the Sword of Aeons)
500 years later(Fable II) Theresa is still Immortal, but very old. she is now a member of the Shadow Court (hence the Theresa shaped shadow in the middle), and is looking for a way to break her bond to the Shadow Court (both good and Evil endings from Fable and Fable:TLC).
since Reaver has to make regular sacrifices to the Shadow Court to stay young, perhaps Theresa has to give them power, or sacrifices herself. (so she could be the one behind the Oakvale destruction, leaving behind Banshees in her image to make more sacrifices to the court for her, so she can finish her plan).
Now The Spire part. i think that she uses the Spire to either give emmense power to the Shadow Court(and herself) in order for them to return to power and take over Albion, or to use the power of the Spire to destroy the Shadow Court, freeing her self from her Vow, and finally dieing peacefully, or she could want ot use the power of the Spire to warn her past child self to not go the Shadow Court. (these parts could be determined in Fable III, where your alignment determines how Theresa acts, if she is a part of it)
Oh, and Theresa's darking alignment is because she is slowly being corrupted by The Shadow Court, and the evils acts she has to do in order to stay immortal.
Whew. tell me what you think!
 
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ShadowMancer;283796 said:
heres my two pennies worth.
Theresa (Fable and Fable:TLC) had visions as a girl, and says to the Hero of Oakvale that she could forsee a terrible choice that the Hero of Oakvale would have to make. surely, if you had this happen to you, you would make precautions to yourself to ensure that you would survive?
Therefore, i think that Theresa went to the Shadow Court (sometime between living with the bandits to being kidnapped by Maze) and offered her soul for Immortality. (we dont know if the Shadow Court was in effect at that time, but its a reasonable guess that they were there, just deep underground, forgotten and undieing)
Theresa probably sold her soul to the Shadow Court (much like Reaver) in return for Immortality. she then lives after the kill made by the Hero of Oakvale (her being knocked unconsious for a while, or just being brought back alive.) (if good then she dissapears to the Shadow Court and serves them, perhaps if the Vow she makes cannot be broken? also, the Sword of Avo is the good version of the Sword of Aeons, except that no-one except Maze knew there was 2 swords, so Avo would still be called Aeons by the villagers, hence Jack being killed by the Sword of Aeons)
500 years later(Fable II) Theresa is still Immortal, but very old. she is now a member of the Shadow Court (hence the Theresa shaped shadow in the middle), and is looking for a way to break her bond to the Shadow Court (both good and Evil endings from Fable and Fable:TLC).
since Reaver has to make regular sacrifices to the Shadow Court to stay young, perhaps Theresa has to give them power, or sacrifices herself. (so she could be the one behind the Oakvale destruction, leaving behind Banshees in her image to make more sacrifices to the court for her, so she can finish her plan).
Now The Spire part. i think that she uses the Spire to either give emmense power to the Shadow Court(and herself) in order for them to return to power and take over Albion, or to use the power of the Spire to destroy the Shadow Court, freeing her self from her Vow, and finally dieing peacefully, or she could want ot use the power of the Spire to warn her past child self to not go the Shadow Court. (these parts could be determined in Fable III, where your alignment determines how Theresa acts, if she is a part of it)
Oh, and Theresa's darking alignment is because she is slowly being corrupted by The Shadow Court, and the evils acts she has to do in order to stay immortal.
Whew. tell me what you think!

thats seems pretty reasonable but you know albions writers don't always get the info right and so they make mistakes in their books which means that the hero could of used avo's tear.
 
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White Knight;273252 said:
Zencidal means that to get the sword of aeons you have to kill your sister to be able to use it.

Also if you have TLC then you will get avo's tear if you choose to destroy the sword, which might mean that Lionhead may've gotten mixed up and said it was the swords of aeons that was used by the hero instead Avo's tear by accident.

I am glad I have the TLC, longer story and better Jacks voice.:whistle:
 
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Archon'sRage;283797 said:
thats seems pretty reasonable but you know albions writers don't always get the info right and so they make mistakes in their books which means that the hero could of used avo's tear.

but dont forget this vit i put into my explaination.
also, the Sword of Avo is the good version of the Sword of Aeons, except that no-one except Maze knew there was 2 swords, so the Sword of Avo would still be called the Sword of Aeons by the villagers, hence Jack being killed by the Sword of Aeons

hence, everyone thinking it was Aeons that killed Jack, regardless of your alignment. no-one except Maze knew there was 2 swords that looked the same, but have different requirements to get. so the stories in Fable II do sorta make sense.
 
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Dentie;257056 said:
Theresa is a hollowman :)
Obviously, I mean just look at those eyes.
 
Re: According to Fable 2 the old hero was evil so what are Theresa doing in Fable 2?

Fable one was a FABLE so by the time of the next hero his story had many different versions im guessing like every fable. But for any clariffication the hero was good you can see it on the portrait in the chamber of fates. I think what was on their minds was " MS is ****ing us with this deadline lets just throw it all together."
 
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moonfever;283832 said:
I am glad I have the TLC, longer story and better Jacks voice.:whistle:
Jacks voice was so better in the original.
 
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