DLC Idea - Downfall

[Noelle Alexandra]

Troll? Hes voicing his opinion. In case you didn't notice thats what a forum is for.
Seriously, does nobody know what trolling is anymore? Its posting something that has no objective except to **** everyone off. Hell, your trolling more than he is. Your post has seemed to **** off a few of the older members.
You want Jack of Blades, Lucien and the Crawler, replay the 3 games.

@Noelle Alexander, your new so I am going to explain it for you. This isn't the first time this has come up. Most of us have lost count of the 'Bring back joB and Lucien because I have the creative writing skills of a 5 year old' threads that have popped up. Theres loads on the fanfic forum, and they at least try to think of creative ways for Jack to come back, rather than he just comes back. So when a older member gets ****ed at a new member, this is why.

What excalibur97 said in his last post was exactly what I was saying. There's a decent way to share an opposing opinion and there's an indecent way, and there was no reason for him to be called a dumbass by Necromancer. I don't care if the 'man' shares his opinion. What I care about is that so many people lack the maturity to do it courteously. This was an idea, and if you don't like it, that's fine. But nobody here works for Lionhead. Nobody said that this idea was going to actually happen, so why anger and insults? You said that excalibur was 'trolling' more than Necromancer because why? Because his idea ****ed people off. Well sorry, but Necromancer's post ****ed people off too. The difference is, Necromancer was obviously trying to **** people off.

 

[Cain]

Necromancers post seemed more of a very blunt opinion rather than trolling. I'm not going to answer for his post, and I doubt he gives a ****. And it seems you got ****ed off by it, so you think its trolling. Newbie mistake, you'll learn its just flaming. Overall defenition is that a Troll is somebody who posts offensive or off-topic posts for the sake of getting angry posts from others. Necro was being blunt, from what I saw.

excalibur97, your idea was ****. It was unoriginal, generic and had no explanation as to why the Crawler is back. Which is why you should raise the bar higher and aspire to that. Think outside of the box, try and be as creative as possible. Don't just use pre-existing ideas, make up your own. Some people won't like it, but you'll have proved your not just a 'dumbass fanboy'.

 

[Noelle Alexandra]

Necromancers post seemed more of a very blunt opinion rather than trolling. I'm not going to answer for his post, and I doubt he gives a s***. And it seems you got ****ed off by it, so you think its trolling. Newbie mistake, you'll learn its just flaming. Overall defenition is that a Troll is somebody who posts offensive or off-topic posts for the sake of getting angry posts from others. Necro was being blunt, from what I saw.

excalibur97, your idea was s***. It was unoriginal, generic and had no explanation as to why the Crawler is back. Which is why you should raise the bar higher and aspire to that. Think outside of the box, try and be as creative as possible. Don't just use pre-existing ideas, make up your own. Some people won't like it, but you'll have proved your not just a 'dumbass fanboy'.

Well considering I'm the 'newbie', you're the one who seems confused, dear. I never said Necromancer was 'trolling', I said he was being a bitchass whiner. I really don't care to get caught up in the semantics of what trolling is. What I'm saying is that, whether you realize it or not, there is a courteous way to share a differing opinion. For instance, instead of telling excalibur his idea is s***, you could have skipped that part completely, like a mature adult, and just shared the relevant part of your opinion. Say you thought it was unoriginal, say you thought it was generic. THAT, sweetie pie, is blunt. Calling someone a dumbass, or calling their idea s***, that's just rude and immature. Please, if you can't find a more mature, refined, and intelligent way to share opinions, stop playing video games and go enroll at a finishing school. And since you're giving people advice on what to aspire to, maybe you could aspire to better articulating yourself.

 

[ForcedDj]

Well, JoB is dead, never coming back. However, a bigger threat than that person could appear, I mean, Queen of Blades(the one from the Court) is way worse than all 3 of the bosses we fought combined. This could be the great evil that Theresa said you inadvertently released, and asks you to rebuild the Heroes Guild. Then again, that is using mostly Fable 1's story(replace JoB with QoB, the heroes guild is back, maybe now only good heroes or evil, or both).

 

[Cain]

Well considering I'm the 'newbie', you're the one who seems confused, dear. I never said Necromancer was 'trolling', I said he was being a bitchass whiner. I really don't care to get caught up in the semantics of what trolling is. What I'm saying is that, whether you realize it or not, there is a courteous way to share a differing opinion. For instance, instead of telling excalibur his idea is s***, you could have skipped that part completely, like a mature adult, and just shared the relevant part of your opinion. Say you thought it was unoriginal, say you thought it was generic. THAT, sweetie pie, is blunt. Calling someone a dumbass, or calling their idea s***, that's just rude and immature. Please, if you can't find a more mature, refined, and intelligent way to share opinions, stop playing video games and go enroll at a finishing school. And since you're giving people advice on what to aspire to, maybe you could aspire to better articulating yourself.

Necro said the truth. I have already pointed out there are a lot of threads that consist of bringing old stuff back so you can have old stuff in a new game for no real reason, so when we get another one, please understand why we are angry. 'dumbass fanboy' is harsh yes, but excaliburs idea didn't exactly set itself apart from the rest of the threads its like. Your calling him the stuff you say is 'rude' and 'immature', so stop being such a hypocrite. I misunderstood your last post, I admit that, I thought you were implying he was a troll.

This is a forum. We are on the internet. I don't know you. I'm immature, unrefined and stupid according to you. Fine, I couldn;t care less of your opinion of me.

I'm stopping this now. I'm not feeling well, and I don't want to spend the late hours of the night aruging with you. Reply to this however you want, I don;t care anymore.

 

[Purple Nurple]

Well considering I'm the 'newbie', you're the one who seems confused, dear. I never said Necromancer was 'trolling', I said he was being a bitchass whiner. I really don't care to get caught up in the semantics of what trolling is. What I'm saying is that, whether you realize it or not, there is a courteous way to share a differing opinion. For instance, instead of telling excalibur his idea is s***, you could have skipped that part completely, like a mature adult, and just shared the relevant part of your opinion. Say you thought it was unoriginal, say you thought it was generic. THAT, sweetie pie, is blunt. Calling someone a dumbass, or calling their idea s***, that's just rude and immature. Please, if you can't find a more mature, refined, and intelligent way to share opinions, stop playing video games and go enroll at a finishing school. And since you're giving people advice on what to aspire to, maybe you could aspire to better articulating yourself.

Necro is a bitchass whiner? Really? Let's look again at what he said: He rightfully said he's sick of fanboys coming on here and talking the same old crap we've been hearing year after year after year. You would not know this, however, having joined less than two months ago.
And no, anyone is free to say whatever they want, you have no right to say what is acceptable and what isn't, that is the job of the rules and the forum moderators. Saying an idea is **** isn't trolling, flaming or baiting - it isn't against the rules WHATSOEVER. If people get upset that their **** ideas get stamped on, tough. Go cry some more.

And before you reply in that oh-so-patronising way of calling everyone, 'dear', or 'sweetie pie' just know, I couldn't give a rat's ass what you said and I probably won't read it. Kthnxbai.

Well, JoB is dead, never coming back. However, a bigger threat than that person could appear, I mean, Queen of Blades(the one from the Court) is way worse than all 3 of the bosses we fought combined. This could be the great evil that Theresa said you inadvertently released, and asks you to rebuild the Heroes Guild. Then again, that is using mostly Fable 1's story(replace JoB with QoB, the heroes guild is back, maybe now only good heroes or evil, or both).

That is a **** idea. You even admit it's pretty much Fable 1, so why do it? The point of a sequel is to progress and change. If I wanted to play that game, I would play TLC and imagine the QoB instead.

 

[Noelle Alexandra]

Necro is a bitchass whiner? Really? Let's look again at what he said: He rightfully said he's sick of fanboys coming on here and talking the same old crap we've been hearing year after year after year. You would not know this, however, having joined less than two months ago.
And no, anyone is free to say whatever they want, you have no right to say what is acceptable and what isn't, that is the job of the rules and the forum moderators. Saying an idea is s*** isn't trolling, flaming or baiting - it isn't against the rules WHATSOEVER. If people get upset that their s*** ideas get stamped on, tough. Go cry some more.

And before you reply in that oh-so-patronising way of calling everyone, 'dear', or 'sweetie pie' just know, I couldn't give a rat's ass what you said and I probably won't read it. Kthnxbai.

That is a s*** idea. You even admit it's pretty much Fable 1, so why do it? The point of a sequel is to progress and change. If I wanted to play that game, I would play TLC and imagine the QoB instead.

I think you must be one of the dumbest people I've ever had the misfortune of coming across. Did you catch what you just said? You said "Anyone is free to say whatever they want" and then in the same sentence you said "You have no right to say". I don't think I'll even comment on your post other than that. I think that says it all. Sorry you made an ass of yourself. Sweetie Pie.

 

[Rudimentree]

God it was so worth reading the post that started this thread just to get to the juicy debate in the comments. Happy Christmas everyone.

On a more on topic note, this idea to me seems very contrived and unoriginal. Gratuitous use of old characters for little to no logical reason, seen it all before etc etc. Sorry bro.

 

[KaveX]

I think you all need to just lay off of each other. This **** is becoming ridiculous on this forum. THIS is the VERY reason I never post anything or on at all. This forum has just gotten hateful. Flame me all you want.. You guys are being dumbasses for stupid reasons. And btw, I agree with Noelle mostly.

Merry ****ing Christmas.

Edit:

On a more on topic note, this idea to me seems very contrived and unoriginal. Gratuitous use of old characters for little to no logical reason, seen it all before etc etc. Sorry bro.

Good Example of voicing your opinion without sounding like a Neanderthal.

 

[LeafySuburb]

Or rather than creating a mini story, a story that is just a cramped version of an entirely new game...Lionhead could just release some very cool side quests... maybe involving old characters... but I think interacting with them directly is a little..... gaudy. Maybe an entirely new character? I've always wondered how many people knew about Will abilities... Fable 2 had a couple people that had like, special powers? Maybe someone who is also conscious about their Will abilities or strength abilities, etc. Fable 3 didn't have very much of that, and what little there was seemed too manufactured and unnatural. I just think your idea is a little bit too extravagant. Sorry for so many people "hatin" on your post though! Seemed honest enough.....It's just a game guys... it's just a forum... if your so above everyone with your articulate posting and extremely well thought out threads, just leave us new users in the dust and carry on. We may be polluting "your" forum with threads, but that doesn't even compare to your arguments. Twice as worse, twice as pointless.

 

[SaintofAlbion]

You all have just about turned this thread right around into a damned flame war. All you do is argue between yourselves, when this is just your typical forum of one wanting a sequel/prequel to the Fable series. While yes the idea of bringing Jack of Blades to the table is rather unoriginal, used, just a ragged idea now, after seeing so many ideas like it, people are free to post it. Otherwise this wouldn't be a forum.
Now, I'm not dragging myself into this pointless flame war of yours, but can we not agree, to disagree? What is so harmful in words? You just prove how naive you are if you actually do react to mere words in such a way it causes you to act rash and inappropriate to others, in such ways that just annoy others, rather, you could just turn away from this meaningless war and simply go back to surfing through the forums, and having a nice time. Rather than pollute the fanfare that other people have created.
On a final note; If you try and annoy me as you do others with your tumor that is a flame war, I will do the proper, and walk away from it, be done with it. Ignore it. Really is about as simple as that...

 

[Noelle Alexandra]

God it was so worth reading the post that started this thread just to get to the juicy debate in the comments. Happy Christmas everyone.

On a more on topic note, this idea to me seems very contrived and unoriginal. Gratuitous use of old characters for little to no logical reason, seen it all before etc etc. Sorry bro.

A very mature way to share a differing opinion, love it

 

[Sephiroxas]

That is a s*** idea. You even admit it's pretty much Fable 1, so why do it? The point of a sequel is to progress and change. If I wanted to play that game, I would play TLC and imagine the QoB instead.

Well. PM and the lionhead crew don't seem to be doing very much progressing. While they add in some cool features. they seem to take away some at the same time...They have that issue..>.>


And I hate to break it to you people. But I'm a fan boy (..>.>..girl..)...so.....

I actually love, and will always love Fable TLC WAY more than Fable 2. I haven't tried Fable 3 yet, but neither of those games really do anything for me..I re-played the original fable on my PC like it was CRACK......Magical Fabley crack...and fable 2...not so much...It doesn't..draw me in as much..While I don't want a return of any of the old characters, (Though..I do fricken love that Dracolich Jack<3) I think they should have Expanded the already made Fable TLC world into something bigger, instead of just starting over from scratch and making a glitchy ass game.

And the point some of you seem to fail to get, is that a forum is a place for people to come and share their ideas about anything. Games they would like to see, what they think the game will have. So on and so forth. If you keep cutting off and bashing everyone who comes to share their ideas, we'll end up having nothing to talk about.

So ease up. And lets get this party started back on the original Topic.

And If you don't like reading about what this person has to say, don't come into the thread and tell them their idea is "****" as you guys have been so lovingly put it. If someone had done that to me the first time I came to this forum. I still wouldn't be here. It's not how you build a community....And its not constructive at all.

Have a Merry Christmas people...

 

[ForcedDj]

Well. PM and the lionhead crew don't seem to be doing very much progressing. While they add in some cool features. they seem to take away some at the same time...They have that issue..>.>


And I hate to break it to you people. But I'm a fan boy (..>.>..girl..)...so.....

I actually love, and will always love Fable TLC WAY more than Fable 2. I haven't tried Fable 3 yet, but neither of those games really do anything for me..I re-played the original fable on my PC like it was CRACK......Magical Fabley crack...and fable 2...not so much...It doesn't..draw me in as much..While I don't want a return of any of the old characters, (Though..I do fricken love that Dracolich Jack<3) I think they should have Expanded the already made Fable TLC world into something bigger, instead of just starting over from scratch and making a glitchy ass game.

And the point some of you seem to fail to get, is that a forum is a place for people to come and share their ideas about anything. Games they would like to see, what they think the game will have. So on and so forth. If you keep cutting off and bashing everyone who comes to share their ideas, we'll end up having nothing to talk about.

So ease up. And lets get this party started back on the original Topic.

And If you don't like reading about what this person has to say, don't come into the thread and tell them their idea is "s***" as you guys have been so lovingly put it. If someone had done that to me the first time I came to this forum. I still wouldn't be here. It's not how you build a community....And its not constructive at all.

Have a Merry Christmas people...

Agreed, I think that person wants LH to keep on going to the future, and remove all the good features like choice of expression, and make the dog more useless. Sooner or later, melee weapons won't be used in the Fable series, and so will magic/will usage. So it would be a worthless game that used to be a good game series, but kept on going to the future. What Theresa needs to do is cause the damn world in Fable to go back to the Dark Ages(use the Spire).

Wait, that might not work for that person, because the idea may be "s***." Try thinking of other DLC ideas, or any reasons why its bad, not just say its s***, and give valid reasons. But sure, lets keep on going forward in time, lets makes melee/magic weapons useless, lets make the dog more useless, lets remove the expression choice so when you interact with someone, it picks for you and you don't get a say in the matter, and lets have a boss that is not really evil.

Needless to say, Fable 3 was the biggest disappointment in the series, no, the most disappointing game on the 360, and in 2010.

About the DLC the op made(original poster), it seems good, but you must understand LH, they will not use old heroes, so the only person from Fable 1 will always be Theresa.

 

[D3m190d]

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[D3m190d]

Needless to say, Fable 3 was the biggest disappointment in the series, no, the most disappointing game on the 360, and in 2010.

In your opinion, yes. I, in fact, liked Fable 3 very much.

On topic: I agree with the people who say it's not a good DLC. I thought about possible Fable stuff when I was younger, but now I smack myself in the face for such silly ideas. Just as what you imagined, right now. But of course, it's just my opinion. But it's odd, suddenly using those ghosts. And... some other stuff. When I think of something now, I think it's better than when I created something before. I don't build an imbalanced story upon what already exists, but add new elements to it. 'like the attempt to creativity, though. Who knows what the future holds.

 

[Necromancer]

It may have been a bit rash or hasty to indirectly call the original poster a dumbass, but it wasn't very far off what I meant, and I stand by everything else I said. In retrospect, it wasn't he who was a dumbass (I can't pass that judgment since I don't know him.), but his actions should sure as hell be labeled as "dumbass-ish" or whatever the hell the adjective form of that word should be. And for those of you who have argued against me and my comments, you must understand that we get this kind of stuff here all the time. It's infuriating to see this kind of stuff so frequently when we know it would turn out to be awful. It gets to you after a while.

 

[Noelle Alexandra]

It may have been a bit rash or hasty to indirectly call the original poster a dumbass, but it wasn't very far off what I meant, and I stand by everything else I said. In retrospect, it wasn't he who was a dumbass (I can't pass that judgment since I don't know him.), but his actions should sure as hell be labeled as "dumbass-ish" or whatever the hell the adjective form of that word should be. And for those of you who have argued against me and my comments, you must understand that we get this kind of stuff here all the time. It's infuriating to see this kind of stuff so frequently when we know it would turn out to be awful. It gets to you after a while.

The last thing I wanted was to start a big arguement and I'm sure I was a little harsh myself, I just want everyone to get along and give constructive criticism. If you think about it, instead of just telling someone their idea is bad, if you give well articulated reasons why, it could help them refine their ideas to something that would maybe appeal to you more. And then you'd probably see a lot less of the same idea

 

[Necromancer]

The last thing I wanted was to start a big arguement and I'm sure I was a little harsh myself, I just want everyone to get along and give constructive criticism. If you think about it, instead of just telling someone their idea is bad, if you give well articulated reasons why, it could help them refine their ideas to something that would maybe appeal to you more. And then you'd probably see a lot less of the same idea

I did give reasons as to why the story was bad. These are my previous posts in this thread:

This would just seem like a desperate attempt to bring back tons of sh*t from TLC. Sure, we all like those Heroes and everything, but if Lionhead made something like this, it would be so god damn obvious that they would just be yelling, "HERE'S SOME TLC STUFF YAY!" and there would be no quality put into it. It would be awful, and despite all the things Lionhead gets sh*t for, they are infinitely better than making something like this.

Because we're sick of dumbass fanboys coming on here and talking about how cool it would be to bring back an inordinate amount of sh*t from TLC when doing so would make a terrible story and ruin the game (which Lionhead already knows).

Sure, it can be seen as pretty harsh, but it damn sure gets the point across. If this was made into a Fable game or a DLC pack, they would just assume that the presence of all this stuff from TLC would make it good, and no quality would be put into it because of that. Not to mention it's extremely generic and unoriginal.

 

[KaveX]

Sure, it can be seen as pretty harsh, but it damn sure gets the point across.

It might get the point across, but the sad thing is.. You look like an idiot.

And to be honest with you.. I liked the Idea, sure it wasn't the same quality as that found in the game and is generic. Who cares? Everything is built upon a generic idea. Look at your name NECROMANCER.. Who hasn't used that name a billion times before?