Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

[darkruler500]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

What it isn't? Well....doesn't matter EVIL should always win... the movies are all wrong bad guys always win...

Not true. Human PLAYERS always win.

 

[Albion Knight]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

Sorry for double posting but I have something to add.

Just think of the facts, the mage could keep attacking you and walk away while he is doing it, and it will take you so much longer to get to him because he can keep using slow-time. And even if you did manage to get near him he could assasin rush you so he is behind you, then he could hit you in the back with a sword a few times until you stumble or fall, and he could run again... Even if you did manage to hit him, he could still assasin rush behind you then he could drain your life... So as said many times in the previous threads.... it all depends on how many will and health potions you get. If you could only have a few will potions then the mage would surely run out while the paladin kept his PS on... so it depends on how many will and health potions and/or phial ressurection potions ye get..

If the Paladin tracked the wizard with the bow he could just keep pegging him and the wizard wouldn't even get a chance to cast a spell because being hit interrupts spellcasting if your don't have the PS. Try fighting a troll close up without PS it sucks.

 

[Sephiroxas]

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If the Paladin tracked the wizard with the bow he could just keep pegging him and the wizard wouldn't even get a chance to cast a spell because being hit interrupts spellcasting if your don't have the PS. Try fighting a troll close up without PS it sucks.

I fight trolls all the time without PS, all you have to do is assassin rush around his feet, they all get confused.

 

[Curzedchild]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

If the Paladin tracked the wizard with the bow he could just keep pegging him and the wizard wouldn't even get a chance to cast a spell because being hit interrupts spellcasting if your don't have the PS. Try fighting a troll close up without PS it sucks.

I agree with what Sephiroxas just said assasin rush can confuse them, all I would have to do is assasin rush you then use force push, enflame, or even Infernal Wrath. But right before I use assasin rush, I would use slow-time, therefore I could use one of those moves even before you had a chance to turn around!

 

[Albion Knight]

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Good point but still with the bow the paladin would make it really hard for the wizard to cast spells. Even if the wizard was able to match damage for damage at the end he would be serously injured without any magic and the paladin would have no PS with plenty of arrows and a sword

 

[darkruler500]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

Well I'm a paladin and It's pretty easy for the paladin(the awsomist player type ever, ruler of the realms, the alpha and omega, etc.) to win cause he has the power of avo behind him. And last time I checked, Skorm not only doesn't help his servants, HE SACRIFICES THEM!

 

[Curzedchild]

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LOL, You should watch your tongue, Skorm does not need for us, we bring him followers of Avo to be sacrificed, and then we gain true power.(Including BEST bow in the game! We ALSO become younger! AND get title NECROMANCER!)
We need not worship fake gods such as yours who shall let suffering go unto this pathetic world... OUR god is much better than that he lets us do his will, he lets us kill, he lets us steal, he lets us keep our gifts, he lets us have the ultimate sign of loyalty, he gives us FREEDOM to do whatever we choose...now does your god let you do anything you choose? I don't think so...

Anyway, back to Albion Knight, those arrows you speak of will be reduced to pathetic gusts of wind with our slow-time on... therefore, we can walk past them with ease, and even if we ran out of mage like you said, we are evil therefore our lord Skorm would grant us the power to wield the strongest bow in the game, his bow, so if you shot at us and we shot at you... lets just say.. we would do far greater damage..

EVIL LIVES IN ALL OF US, JUST EMBRACE IT FOR FREEDOM!!!

 

[Albion Knight]

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Evil does have the strongest bow AND the strongest sword in the game I give you that.
But would a wizard use a bow?
To your other rant, Skorm only rewards you for killing the weak and harmless. Avo rewards ridding the land of the vilest and most retched of beasts.

And to you "FREEDOM" You are not free for if you follow the natural path of life (the game) you will fall into Avo's arms. To follow Skorm you are not free. Skorm demands the sacrifice of innocents

IE you need to intentionally be evil but if you just kill the bad guy’s you will become good. Mind you it's fun doing both. True Freedom lies in the I don't give a f*** what my alignment is approach! Meaning neutral :noexpression:

 

[Curzedchild]

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Evil does have the strongest bow AND the strongest sword in the game I give you that.
But would a wizard use a bow?
To your other rant, Skorm only rewards you for killing the weak and harmless. Avo rewards ridding the land of the vilest and most retched of beasts.

And to you "FREEDOM" You are not free for if you follow the natural path of life (the game) you will fall into Avo's arms. To follow Skorm you are not free. Skorm demands the sacrifice of innocents

IE you need to intentionally be evil but if you just kill the bad guy’s you will become good. Mind you it's fun doing both. True Freedom lies in the I don't give a f*** what my alignment is approach! Meaning neutral :noexpression:

I am always the way where I don't give a f*** what my alignment is.... but I always steal, kill, etc. Because it's fun! And if there is a god to which gives you free things for doing my favorite things. Then that IS my god....

Anyway back to the topic, no I don't think a normal wizard would use a bow, maybe a sword(although he might not be strong with the sword or the bow) but since he is an EVIL mage and he gets them for FREE for doing what he thinks of as FUN and so I shall as you the same question, if you got strong FREE weapons for having fun and doing as you wish, wouldn't you keep them? Even if thats not the thing you use?!

 

[Sephiroxas]

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Evil does have the strongest bow AND the strongest sword in the game I give you that.
But would a wizard use a bow?
To your other rant, Skorm only rewards you for killing the weak and harmless. Avo rewards ridding the land of the vilest and most retched of beasts.

And to you "FREEDOM" You are not free for if you follow the natural path of life (the game) you will fall into Avo's arms. To follow Skorm you are not free. Skorm demands the sacrifice of innocents

IE you need to intentionally be evil but if you just kill the bad guy’s you will become good. Mind you it's fun doing both. True Freedom lies in the I don't give a f*** what my alignment is approach! Meaning neutral :noexpression:

Not giving a **** what your allignment is, is not neutral, that's chaotic. And if you dont' care..then it really doesn't matter..that's what NOT CARING means. You can be evil and not care or good and not care, or neutral and not care, it's not necessarily just one allignment.

and PS: Avo and Skorm don't exist.

And yes a wizard would use a bow, Multi Arrow is a spell.

edit: I don't need you to reply by typing a long *** paragraph.

 

[Albion Knight]

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Not giving a **** what your allignment is, is not neutral, that's chaotic. And if you dont' care..then it really doesn't matter..that's what NOT CARING means. You can be evil and not care or good and not care, or neutral and not care, it's not necessarily just one allignment.

and PS: Avo and Skorm don't exist.

And yes a wizard would use a bow, Multi Arrow is a spell.

Good point about chaotic. I was mostly trying to make a point about freedom. Being tied to being either good or evil would limit your actions.

Um how could I visit the temple of or own a weapon of something that doesn't exist?

I think a hero would use a bow I don't think wizard would use one. This brings us back to what restrictions would be placed on each of them.

I guess I see it as offensive magic vs defensive magic (only the spells you could use in a fist fighter boast

Perhaps if we consider class (which Neither Paladin nor Wizard is one) We could better define these restrictions.

As usual I'm way over thinking this I guess that what you get with me

This site
Fable for PS2 on Gamerhelp.com

and this post by Devalion can help us define them

---Fable Classes---
~~Strength
Physique - Warrior
Health - Fighter
Toughness - Barbarian
Speed - Hunter
Accuracy - Slayer
Guile - Infiltrator
Spells - Spellwarrior
Magic - Spellsword

~~Skill
Physique - Knight
Health - Soldier
Toughness - Bountyhunter
Speed - Scout
Accuracy - Archer
Guile - Rogue
Spells - Witchhunter
Magic - Mystic

~~Will
Physique - Battle Mage
Health - Theurgist
Toughness - Sorcerer
Speed - Moonchaser
Accuracy - Seer
Guile - Warlock
Spells - Will User
Magic - Invoker



By the way, Legendary is the last title you receive when you have maxxed out reknown. The class titles are earned differently, depending upon how much experience you have in Physical, skill, and will.

 

[Sephiroxas]

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Um how could I visit the temple of or own a weapon of something that doesn't exist?

I've said it five times before and I'll say it again. This is what the oracle's at snow spire say. They could be proven wrong in Fable 2, but in Fable TLC skorm and Avo don't exist.

"The Gods Skorm and Avo
Though many worship these so-called gods, the temples to Skorm and Avo can only be dated as far back as four-hundred years ago, when they were founded by a ruthless Trader. He uncovered two locations in Albion where the Will was particularly strong. In one of them it tended towards good, healing those who stood there; in the other it tended towards evil, filling the mind of its visitors with horror and violent urges. The Trader saw an opportunity. He would create two temples to two opposing gods, and demand gold from those who felt their power. In time, people came to believe in the existence of Skorm and Avo, but they are nothing but false idols. "

 

[Albion Knight]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

Touché

That damn oracle ruins all my fun

 

[Curzedchild]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

I've said it five times before and I'll say it again. This is what the oracle's at snow spire say. They could be proven wrong in Fable 2, but in Fable TLC skorm and Avo don't exist.

"The Gods Skorm and Avo
Though many worship these so-called gods, the temples to Skorm and Avo can only be dated as far back as four-hundred years ago, when they were founded by a ruthless Trader. He uncovered two locations in Albion where the Will was particularly strong. In one of them it tended towards good, healing those who stood there; in the other it tended towards evil, filling the mind of its visitors with horror and violent urges. The Trader saw an opportunity. He would create two temples to two opposing gods, and demand gold from those who felt their power. In time, people came to believe in the existence of Skorm and Avo, but they are nothing but false idols. "

I hate oracles they are liars and don't know what they speak of.....right....
Ok so say they know a lot, maybe they lie and make stuff up.... Any way I (meaning while I play Fable) pretend that the gods are real and that you can make them like you and please them. (For I think it makes the game more real-life feeling, except in real life I do not believe in the such thing as gods.) Anyway yes I agree that the Evil Wizard will use skorms bow for 2 reasons, 1 because you get the bow by being EVIL and 2 there are magics that the WIZARD can use with the bow.

 

[Albion Knight]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

A WitchHunter would use those magics but not a Wizard

 

[Sephiroxas]

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I hate oracles they are liars and don't know what they speak of.....right....
Ok so say they know a lot, maybe they lie and make stuff up.... Any way I (meaning while I play Fable) pretend that the gods are real and that you can make them like you and please them. (For I think it makes the game more real-life feeling, except in real life I do not believe in the such thing as gods.) Anyway yes I agree that the Evil Wizard will use skorms bow for 2 reasons, 1 because you get the bow by being EVIL and 2 there are magics that the WIZARD can use with the bow.

nothing they say they lie about.....Everything they say is true.You're the one who doesn't know what he speaks of.

 

[Curzedchild]

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nothing they say they lie about.....Everything they say is true.You're the one who doesn't know what he speaks of.

You may think that but do you believe everything they say is true? In that case that would mean they know more then probably everyone for I have heard Oracles say the end of the world is approaching... and I am still alive.(In that game I stayed alive anyway...) Besides don't you think if there lives are at stake that they will lie? If they did not lie and would rather die than I admire there courage but I do not think that they would.

 

[Sephiroxas]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

You may think that but do you believe everything they say is true? In that case that would mean they know more then probably everyone for I have heard Oracles say the end of the world is approaching... and I am still alive.(In that game I stayed alive anyway...) Besides don't you think if there lives are at stake that they will lie? If they did not lie and would rather die than I admire there courage but I do not think that they would.

The oracle was created!:::

The Oracle
I was created by order of the third Archon, not just to prepare the Kingdom for future disasters, but to act as a keeper of all past and present knowledge. Four Will users with visionary powers were charged with the task: Calran, Avisto, Yeron and Moryk. Each carved a Glyph of Inquiry into stone, with the symbols that would allow their user to question me. After the fall of the Kingdom, thousands of years later, Snowspire found itself under imminent attack from invading forces. The Guild sent four acolytes to bury the Glyphs in the Necropolis, where they remained until you found them.

And the things you ask the oracle about are as follows:

=YERON - PEOPLE
Whisper
Theresa
The Guildmaster
Thunder
Briar Rose
Scythe
Maze
The Archaeologist

=Moryk - Lore
Demon Doors
The Necropolis
The Ship of the Drowned
The Singing Sword-Unfortunately, it is only a fable, and such a sword has never existed.
The Gods Skorm and Avo

=Calran - Creatures
Krakens
The Sandgoose- The fabled Sandgoose. There are those who still believe in its existence, but their search has proved fruitless so far.
Screamers
Summoners
Balverines

=Avisto - History
Hook Coast
The Archon
Jack of Blades
Nostro
The Oracle
The Prophets of the Fire Heart
Snowspire

And everything they say is TRUE except for the ones that AREN'T like Avo & skorm, the Singing sword, and the Sandgoose. And, the end of the world WAS coming, the Jack of Blades was going to destroy everything unless you stopped him, just because the end of the world comes NEAR doesn't mean it's the end. You can stop things. Your logic makes no sense.

 

[Albion Knight]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

Sephoraxis is right. You have to go with what is in the game as truth. That doesn't mean you can't worship a false idol that doesn't exist however.

I know that would be unrealistic

 

[Sephiroxas]

Re: Evil Wizard, Good Paladin

Sephoraxis is right. You have to go with what is in the game as truth. That doesn't mean you can't worship a false idol that doesn't exist however.

I know that would be unrealistic

worship false idols all you (you as in the general public) want. :lol::lol: I just saying they don't exist.