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Pearl Harbor

Sean

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Today is the day that is infamous for the attack on Pearl Harbor, now I don't justify the attacks on Pearl Harbor, I think it was wrong, we weren't in any type of engagement with Japan at the time. However, while I was reading an article about it on USAToday, the editor stated things about how the people living there were heroic, and we should always remember the bravery of the 3,000+ soldiers who died there, the words "heroic" and "brave" and "honor" popped up quite a bunch, it then stated that's when we started our walk into Global Superiority. I don't agree with that statement at all. The Golden Generation died pretty much after the Korean War, that **** was long and over, we don't have any type of form of Global Superiority and never have. Anyways, what made no sense - was that they made us seem like the victim, the hero, the good guy. Pearl Harbor was an attack on the Military, it killed Military Personnel, and destroyed Military Vehicles. How can we act like the good guys, when we surprise attacked them, by dropping two atomic bombs on civilian cities, wiping out 300,000+ and leaving hundreds of thousands more mortified and scared, not too mention radiation effects decades after. Why can't we just admit we're the bad guys for once? We do that to them, yet we still have room to say the Japanese were the bad guys.

I love my country and Military (obviously you all know) but I don't like how we can never just say we were the bad guys for once, we never accept the fact we lost in Vietnam, or pretty much Iraq and Afghanistan nowadays.
 
It is pretty stupid to call them brave; it is not like they had any say in the matter whether or not they wanted to fight and die or not. Many of them probably would have preferred to live if given the choice. But it was a turning point in WWII so we should definitely honour them, as well as everyone else that died in WWII.

As for the bombing of Japan; it was a horrible end; - emphasis on end - to a horrible era in human history. If the US. would've fought their way to central Japan and crush all opposition like the Allies and Russia did to Germany many more would've probably died. If the number is correct, 300.000 is most likely a low price to pay in comparison what it took to force a surrender out of Nazi Germany. It is regrettable though that they were civilian causalities. The Japanese definitely were the "bad guys" in the sense that they were the aggressors and the instigator of the conflict.
 
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How can we act like the good guys, when we surprise attacked them, by dropping two atomic bombs on civilian cities, wiping out 300,000+ and leaving hundreds of thousands more mortified and scared, not too mention radiation effects decades after. Why can't we just admit we're the bad guys for once? We do that to them, yet we still have room to say the Japanese were the bad guys.

If we went with the other option, the invasion of Japan, it would have been much, much worse. Also the damage from all of the incendiary bombs we dropped(as would any other country) inflicted more damage then both A-bombs, since Japanese buildings were primarily made of wood. Lastly if we didn't drop the A-bombs and did invade we would have been stuck in a huge battle similar to the battle of Stalingrad, since the Japanese were taught that they were superior and that defeat is not in their language, so to speak.

God Bless our armed forces!!
 
So its a bad thing that america has to this day been the only contry with the balls to retaliate with nuclear force? Screw them, they hit us, we hit back harder and did so much moral damage that japan refuses to have a nuclear program to this day. I'm saddend by the sorry excuse for warfare that we have today.
 
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i think that the article made a typo sean. see, he meant to type "an heroes" not "heroes". there's a world of difference.

in related news, the chinese government recently tried to hack google again! WHOOO
 
My two cents:
We were attacked, were we warned? Yes. Did we ignore it? Yes. Did we provoke them? Yes. Were they heroes? No. Martyrs? Yes. Was the Atomic Bomb necessary to win? Not at all. Did it save lives? Probably not, since Japan was ready to surrender. (We had not known at the time(?)) Was America's entry in WWII vital? I don't think so. Did it help? Yes. Was it a good thing? Generally yes, that we stepped in to fight the Axis.
 
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lol war.. Its inevitable, you have to fight to make peace, which means it will never work. But I have to thank the soldiers who died in the war, because if they didnt do anything, then we would be nothing. simple really..
 
lol war.. Its inevitable, you have to fight to make peace, which means it will never work. But I have to thank the soldiers who died in the war, because if they didnt do anything, then we would be nothing. simple really..

"You sure this is a peacekeeping mission? Normally there isn't any peace to start with.."
 
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"You sure this is a peacekeeping mission? Normally there isn't any peace to start with.."
Not sure who wrote that.. but.. suuuure.

The reason why we cant have peace is because everyones View of "Peace" is different, so If i say, "Wow the world we live in is so peaceful" in my opinion, it would be, But in others it wouldnt be, you cant make everyone happy, there will always be someone, somewhere, worse off. Not saying we shouldnt try or anythng.. :D