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Speculative: The Court of Blades

Orpheus Lupus

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Speculative: The Court of Blades

If you feel I'm thinking too hard about these things, I understand. I just like researching the stories of games, books, etc. XP

If you've read the Fragments of the Old Kingdom on the Tales of Albion website then you've undoubtedly seen the entries about the Court of Blades - Jack, Knight, and Queen. Obviously, we've all seen Jack in the original Fable. I have a feeling though that we'll be seeing all three of them at some point or another; chances are if Jack survived then the other two did as well. So without further ado, here's some fun stuff I noticed about them.

First, it's important to note the order they come in. Jack seems to always come first everytime he's mentioned, then Knight, then Queen. I think it's safe to assume that they'll come back in the same order in the Fable series. That said, I don't think we'll be seeing Knight in Fable 2, necessarily; Peter M has said that there might be three more Fable games. Who knows, though. I guess Lucien might not be the final boss even if he is the main villain.

This leads me to my next point: The powers the Court seems to have. I think that, if you look at it with the "order" in mind, we can get an idea for the monster forms of each Court member.

First, the Court "burned Albion until the earth turned black and the sky was thick with smoke." This one's pretty obvious. It's Jack's giant dragon form, as seen at the end of Fable. I don't *think* we'll be seeing it again, although anything really is possible.

Second, they "lifted the sea into the sky and flooded the world". I suspect we're seeing what Knight's power is. What could he be though? There are many possibilities. All three members of the court could just be dragons with different abilities. Or he might be some sort of super-Kraken (which we saw one of in Fable) with control over the water itself (and the ability to take a human form like Jack, maybe?). Or he could be some other sort of creature that can control weather. Who knows? Any thoughts?

Finally (for tonight anyway, until I think of other things), we have "twisted their minds until brother slew brother, parents abandoned their children, and friend turned against friend". This one isn't very descriptive, although it's definitely the most dangerous. I'm gonna say it specifically refers to good ol' Queen of Blades. Sure, Jack was good at deceiving people, but was he able to turn all of Albion into raving lunatics? I suspect our dear Queen might have outright mind control. That's going to be nasty.

That's it for tonight. If anyone has any thoughts or would like to add something or wants to do some speculating of their own, go ahead. I'll look through the rest of the fragments and see if I find anything else interestin'.

Also: I'd almost definitely say Scythe will make a return later on in Fable 2.


EDIT: Oh, wait. It says Knight was destroyed first and was destroyed completely. Whoops. I guess we won't be seeing him, but we might be seeing the Queen at some point. Pity, I would have liked to have seen what he looks like :-P
 
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nice theories dude, maybe the queen and the knight were the oter masks on jacks armour
 
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I've actually thought about that. I doubt that was the original intention (heck, see mods that make the mask change based on alignment, for example. There were multiple masks at some point in the programming I think? although they were all Jack's), but it might be possible. Jack's Soul Mask survived his most recent human host (whoever that was) being tossed into the Void, I suppose the other two might as well. I personally just think Jack has a mask fetish, though :-P

Heck, Jack might not even be dead; I don't doubt we'll eventually take a trip into the Void in a future game at some point. Even if they're "dead" they might all be wandering around somewhere. Or they might be totally destroyed. Not like we know how the Void works.
 
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lol yeah
 
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Doesn't it say that Will destroyed the other two? It says he "broke Jacks body, but some say that he may have escaped into the void", whilst it says that he "destroyed the Knight completely". It doesn't go into as much detail with Queeny, but I suspect the same fate a the Knight.

Still interesting theory. I'll leave my mind open to it, I think.
 
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Yeah, I noted the part about "Destroyed Knight completely". It doesn't go into anything as far as the Queen is concerned, which is why I posted this anyway :-P. But yeah. I just have a feeling this information will be important eventually, lol.
 
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im thinking they wont play a direct role but are meaningful to the storyline and to what will be gng on
 
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It said that The battle between the Queen and Will went on for quite a while destroying the land and then Will kicked her ass! it states that he Slew her that means she's dead and when you kill someone with the world's most powerful sword aka. Sword of Aeons (at the hight of it's power) then that's pretty much a guarantee that they are dead for good

and Jack's Host body was transformed Into the Dragon and seeing as Jack wasn't a dragon during Fable 1 it doesn't make sense that Jack would change from his Dragon form where you said he burnt the world, and then after he got whooped changed into a crappy from aka. Human

Plus i doubt he would be able to wield HIS sword aka. The sword of Aeons very effectively if he was a Dragon.

Also there were a few hints to the Queen of blades in Fable: TLC with a little kid claiming "i am the Queen of Blades" although this could just be a reference that she wanted to marry Jack....

Sorry for Rambling on a little there.....
 
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really ive never heard that were is that kid?
 
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If you've got TLC Jack turns into a dragon after you kill him in the guild.
 
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huh this storyline is so rich with content
 
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mk so... nostro killed the knight and queen and jack... but not all of jack which is why he comes back in fable 1 his soul was in the mask im 99% sure they say that in tlc because the whole thing is you kill the mask after yuou defeat the dragon... also PM has directly said that fable 1's story will not come in directly to fable 2's story though there will be references like destroyed heros guild and gypsy kids play...

second part... the reason the tales of albion are important are to explain what lucien will be doing in fable 2... it has already been said that lucien is going to try to recreate the tower that the archon made... and about your theory on lucien not being the big last boss or whatever i think that could be true because PM has said that lucien will not really be evil so much as cruel... so there will probably be some other eviler being

thats what i got from the talke of albion
 
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nice theories dude, maybe the queen and the knight were the oter masks on jacks armour

so this means if they r the other masks and jack survived then that means they survived and so they never did die
 
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ashinator;197290 said:
so this means if they r the other masks and jack survived then that means they survived and so they never did die
im just throwing theories around, besides it said the queen was destroyed completely
 
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gdude987654321;197283 said:
mk so... nostro killed the knight and queen and jack... but not all of jack which is why he comes back in fable 1 his soul was in the mask im 99% sure they say that in tlc because the whole thing is you kill the mask after yuou defeat the dragon... also PM has directly said that fable 1's story will not come in directly to fable 2's story though there will be references like destroyed heros guild and gypsy kids play...


Yeah, that's why I keep saying we probably won't see Jack again. He was awesome, but he's almost definitely done just from that information alone. Which is why if we ever see them again it would probably be Queen. Who again probably won't show up during this game since they'll probably want to focus on the whole Archon's/Lucien's Tower thing (I find it amusing that we've got from fighting over a sword to fighting over an entire tower) which I look forward to XD

As for the whole human/dragon form Jack debate, we don't really know whether or not he was able to switch between both forms at will. The "Burned the world" lines however fit in with the dragon form. Plus he seems to have had the Sword of Aeons originally, which is fun. Granted, it doesn't really matter whether or not he was in dragon form; he can burn the world if he damn well wants to with that thing.
 
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Orpheus Lupus;197381 said:
Yeah, that's why I keep saying we probably won't see Jack again. He was awesome, but he's almost definitely done just from that information alone. Which is why if we ever see them again it would probably be Queen. Who again probably won't show up during this game since they'll probably want to focus on the whole Archon's/Lucien's Tower thing (I find it amusing that we've got from fighting over a sword to fighting over an entire tower) which I look forward to XD

As for the whole human/dragon form Jack debate, we don't really know whether or not he was able to switch between both forms at will. The "Burned the world" lines however fit in with the dragon form. Plus he seems to have had the Sword of Aeons originally, which is fun. Granted, it doesn't really matter whether or not he was in dragon form; he can burn the world if he damn well wants to with that thing.

yeah but when we defeated jack as a dragon the heros guild had already been created and in the tales of albion the guild doesnt come until much after the archon killed the court and nosrto took power... which is why i dont think that our fight was when the world was burned... though i guess jack could have just done it earlier as a dragon
 
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...Um.......Yes. Duh? Just because he built a new dragon body with the Sword of Aeons help doesn't mean he didn't have that ability before he was "killed" the first time by the Archon. The fact that he came back as a dragon doesn't mean it was totally impossible he was a "dragon" originally, albeit one with some sort of human form as well.


Although admittedly referring to it as a dragon is slightly pointless and confusing giving the original human form as well...As Jack himself says in the final battle "You can't possibly comprehend what I am!"
 
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The Queen of Blades went Psychic on all of Albion, the people go nuts -make ebony weapons- and kill each other. Sounds like a good time?
 
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Wait being someone that hasnt played TLC Jack turns into a dragon?? dude... if that mask can turn you into a dragon i would so totally buy that mask...
 
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