I kill people in Grand Theft Auto, I steal cars there too, I fight Dragons in Skyrim. Does that mean it encourages me to go outside, kill a lizard, steal a car, crash it into a couple of people and shoot people because I think they are zombies? No, I didn't think so. Get it over with, people aren't encouraged like that and some are perverts but that doesn't mean it is the manga to be blamed.
And now you're foolishly misunderstanding me, sexual desires (especially uncontrollable ones) vs picking up a controller to kill time is incomparable.
Some people are stupid, some are not. And history has proven that there have been people in the past who have been encouraged by entertainment to act on things, but the root of that is of course the individuals themselves and not the forms of entertainment.
Oh I don't know... maybe because they were just friggin manga books? Not instruction manuals named "Paedophilia 101". These were commercially released manga books, not some underground project. You could buy them in stores in Japan. Now, Japan has a high level of tolerance towards crazy sexual stuff but I don't think even Japan would tolerate the release of said manual.
Just because it is commercially sold on shelves doesn't mean the author can't inadvertently educate a foolish individual with the actions in a story, such as clever ideas.
Tsuyu said:
First off, there was no actual porn involved, just suggestive images (such as the banana image in my opening post if it still works). Secondly; what about people who are into guro or snuff? Do they all become mass-murderning rapists? No they don't. Thirdly; how one acts on the Internet is vastly different from how one acts in real life. They might say these things under the guise of internet anonymity, but in real life? I doubt it.
Especially with stupid things like Pedobear which has made it "cool" and "in" to claim to be a pedo on the intertubes.
I know there wasn't, just referring to people who collect the porn. Like I said to Dark Intellect, there have been people in the past who have been encouraged by various material, but the root of that problem lies with the individual. Lots of people are of course not stupid enough to do such things.
Of course how they act is vastly different on the net, there is nothing to fear and everything one would be afraid to express or say in person they don't have to be afraid of over the net. Would a pedo be dumb enough to say he's/she's a pedo in real life? Probably not (
except for this guy). Would he/she feel safer to speak of it on the net under anonymity? Sure, why not?
And yes, I'm aware of the idiots who thinks it's cool, but I'm talking about other people like those who hang around private hentai forums and express their desires they would otherwise never express in real life. Especially those who did so before pedobear's popularity spike.
My point is why read and collect them though? Is it because it's a much safer alternative to the real thing? Because if so, then that bothers me for what if there was a situation where fear and consequences were something to never have to be worried about again. Would their fetish and curiosity get the better of them soon as they get terribly horny?
Tsuyu said:
As I previously said; wouldn't providing a fictional alternative to real children be the preferable alternative? Do you need encouragement to act heterosexual? Does "normal" porn encourage you to go out and act like a slut(or manwhore as it were)? Like it or not, paedophilia isn't something that can be cured and as one you can't be less of a pedo than you and me can be less of a heterosexual or homosexual. To be frank, I'll prefer them wanking over fictional children than stalking our playgrounds.
...So you're comparing a sexual fetish vs. a sexual orientation? That is not the same thing, I myself cannot help being bisexual, but I can for sure help some of the fetishes/fantasies that run though my head. As I am sure there are some pedos who can control their fantasies and desires as opposed to those who cannot.
