Tsuyu

If others can find some of my more harmless comments "offensive" then I can find that equally as offensive. Mostly because it was.

Thanks, I was thinking about asking for a closing, but the fun got the better of me.

So you insult me before you close my thread? Why is it people with power never get punished? I'll never understand that.

I spoke to Gikoku last night and it was reopened. Thanks Tsuyu,

Why was my thread closed? I did not request it to be closed, and it was not offensive in any way or form.

tsuyu can ya lock my thread in the pub games?

[Edit]: never mind, you responded to my question on the chatbox already.

hiyaz^^. hows u/ im new here. and i was looking 4 some friends.

Well, you came off pretty strongly about it. I really felt as though you weren't simply disagreeing.

After a while I wasn't even talking about that but just spirituality itself. Perhaps it started as a simple misunderstanding then? I certainly did not intend to spawn a large argument.

Can you at least see my point of the direction of your posts? Like Arseface before you were rather aggressive with them, and so I instinctively became defensive. Please look back at my earlier posts, I've been on the fence the whole time, agreeing with both sides.

As far as I can recall, the only things I've deliberately been trying to prove false is the Adam&Eve/Noah&Flood crackpot stories. Everything else spoken about, I've just said that I don't believe in it.

This is true, science does undergoe a lot of scrutiny, but even then it cannot be perfect, perfection is a dream and unattainable no matter who or what it is. Even my theory of the universe being like clockwork, no matter how good such a 'machine' would run it would still have flaws.

You have to admit you've been trying to prove others wrong using science and probabilities. Fact is, neither you nor I can explain why I can feel sadness from someone who is not showing any signs of it. Or why i can speak Sephi's thoughts aloud.

I was like you at one time. Keep in mind I was raised religiously and drifted away from it for all the same reasons you have given. Now with that in mind, you will never see the supernatural side of things if you aren't at least open to it.

Now I'm not saying you should or shouldn't believe in one thing or another, just that you should keep an open mind and actively seek spirituality. If in your quest you find nothing, so be it, it happens. But you've gotta have an open mind first.

I never assumed that. One doesn't wake up one day believing anything they believe. Your opinions are based on a long time I assume.

But I digress, I really don't care for religion that much myself. They are lacking, in many many ways. But telling people that spirituality is false is wrong. Even disregarding religion itself, what do you have against genuine spirituality, such as mine. I'm not even entirely sure what I believe, just that I believe there is more to the world than science can explain.

I'm not trying to argue, I just want to know why you've closed yourself off to all other possibilities. Do you feel safe in your beliefs? Do you believe what you believe to be concrete? I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing ANYTHING is concrete, religion and science both included.

I guess I just wanna get across human error and truthfulness. Even in science there's the possibility someone interpreted a reading wrong or falsified information.

If you wanna get SUPER technical every language is just a series of sounds and in all actuality mean nothing because they are meanings that we've put to those sounds. In that same technicality, everything is false becuase of human perception. Even if we saw everything perfectly, heard everything perfectly, there will always be a human factor to consider. The possibility of something having gone wrong in any number of theories.

You are right, science is constantly evolving, growing, changing. Whereas religion remains stagnant. I'm just having trouble wrapping my mind around such a one-sided opinion. I've been trying to debate on both sides but it's hard when people come along and do what you and Arseface did.

I'm REALLY not wanting to argue, I just want to get to a mutual understanding.

I'm putting this here to keep the thread clean.

I am sorry we disagree so heavily on that topic, it's just that I hate when people use rationality and probability for everything in the world. I used to be a very logical thinker in my youth. Nowadays my biggest questions are Why and How, to everything. Maybe I'm probing to see why you feel the way you do.

I'm just trying to get you to open your mind to the 'what if's' and not what is. Cuz after all, isn't 'what if' the base question for all scientific theory? Not really, it's philosophy, but sometimes that question evolves into a growing scientific experiment and such.

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Tsuyu can you please lock/delete the thread i just made the unsure about this signature one thanks reason is in the first post

Epic comic sig is epic!

Oh come on, unlock the damn music thread - it's the only thread I've found remotely interesting on this bloody forum in weeks!!!

You okay man? :/

:lol: alright well, as long as we're cool i guess.