Those rumours started some time ago and it was highly expected that they would be doing the official song, then it was changed to Adele for some reason.
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Those rumours started some time ago and it was highly expected that they would be doing the official song, then it was changed to Adele for some reason.
Maybe because Adele is more popular than Muse in Britain at the moment? I always thought Bond Songs were sung by the artists who were the most popular at the time the film was made. Hence why Duran Duran and Tina Turner sung Bond songs.
Tsuyu
is wearing Queen's lace panties.
A 'good enough' in my book. Would have preferred Muse myself, but I feel I'm in the minority there.
Of course not, I don't think everything revolves around me or my tastes to the point where anything that isn't within the parameters of those tastes is automatically inferior to answer the first question. As a film its quality is great but it just doesn't feel like the classic bond films to me. "Inferior" however is subjective, simply put it's not my thing.
To answer the second question, this is somewhat true. The reason it's too different along with ones like die another day, quantam of solace is because absence of the cold war setting, yes I know these films change with the times, but the ones set back then appealed to my tastes more. Cold war is something I'm quite interested in so for me it add's to the experience, that and as a plot element it introduced higher stakes for bond to go up against seeing as the older villains had a habit of trying to bring about World war three by medeling with both sides.
I often find the characters in the newer ones to be bland and forgettable, whereas in the older ones you had Oddjob the mute, smiling korean muscle-man who kills people with his hat, or jaws the big hulking lumox with a deadly smile < these fellas had something uniqely distinctive about them and were menacing yet entertaining at the same time, I hardly remember the villains/henchmen from the more recent films they don't stand out enough for me, I don't fall in love with them like I do the others. Prefered the locations too in the older films, how elaborate and far-fetched some of the Villains secret bases were, lot's of escapism.
Not only that but I always prefered the soundtracks in the older films with John Barry's orchestra music; which I'm a major fan of, the newer soundtracks just have the same magic in my opinion. I could hum many of those in my head for hours. Can't remember any of the background music from Skyfall already and I didn't even see it that long ago, can only just about recollect the theme music itself to be honest.
Another thing that I like is the slower pace of the old bond flicks, it gave you time to sit back and fully absorb things. The space abduction scenes from You only live twice for example: they way the SPECTRE space capsule slowly approaches the Astro/cosmonauts' space crafts before swallowing them had me on the edge of my seat as a child especially a it was combined with John Barry's 'Capsule in space' theme which gave the sequence a tension that then lead to an unforgettable climax where the predatory capsule devours the victim module before silently drifting away. Or who could forget the laser scene from Goldfinger, once again the steady peace timed perfectly with the worrying music as everyone watching thinks bond is going to loose his man-parts to that dreadful toy of Goldfingers, simply hair-raising everything in the newer installments happens too fast for me to take it in properly, which is probably why I find it so forgettable.
Another reason I prefer the older ones is because of Connery's wit and and suarve peronality, whereas Daniel Craig kinda just likes to dive through windows and land on top of people then beat them to death < too much of this. I'm not saying they need to go back to Connery's style by all means stay with craigs, I fully understand that if they kept with the same formula for every Bond over the past 50 years then the franchise would have stagnated and people would have stopped watching decades, the way he changes with each actor is a good thing in my opinion. However Craig will never be my prefered bond, this isn't a matter of who's better, it is a matter of preference and I prefer Connery's style.
It is bond, but isn't my kind of Bond. Yes I went to see it but I do this to give it a chance and plus my friend wanted me to watch it with him, but if some all-powerful force appeared said to me "you are never to watch this film again." I'd just shrug my shoulders and be fine with it. If I was never allowed to watch From Russia with love or the Spy who loved me again however, I'd be very depressed.
Well, Bond changes. I'm not saying this because you or Tsuyu need to hear it again. I'm saying it because some day soon or far away it will be time for Craig to go and all of us can come together to anticipate where the series will be going next.
Personally, I'm having a hell of a time trying to picture any young male actors that I would like to take up the mantle.
I'm honestly drawing a blank.
Tsuyu
is wearing Queen's lace panties.
I like Daniel Craig. I like the films he has been in. Except for Bond.
He is not Bond.
They are not Bond films.
I want:
In no particular order, kthxbai.
He is not Bond.
They are not Bond films.
I want:
- sexism
- chauvinism
- bewbs
- fast cars
- slutty foreign women with poorly-disguised slutty names
- inappropriate clothing
- clichéd villains who talk so much the hero gets away
- moar bewbs
- cheesy one-liners and horribly-choreographed fist-fights
- tall, dark and dashingly handsome men who don't actually do it for me but look good in suits
- stupid villain abilities like hats that can cut off heads
- pointless and over-the-top chases on high-powered vehicles with utterly fantastical conclusions
- infinite bewbs
In no particular order, kthxbai.
I didn't like any of the older bond films for all of the reasons you listed. :B
I'm not judging, just my personal taste.
I've never read the Bond books, I must say. I think for me they'll be like when I read the Inspector Morse books, thinking they'd be quite interesting like the TV series. They really weren't.
I'm an old fashioned sort of person and although some of the Bond films really are beyond crap, they have a strong sense of nostalgia attached to them for me and, as such, a degree of sentimentality. I watched Quantum of Solace and was a bit "lolwut?" all the way through, not really knowing what was going on...then I watched Casino Royale and thought "lolwut?" before realising I probably should have watched that one first. Like with anything they try to drag into the current day, it's not going to appeal to everyone but I can see why the grit and drama of the Craig Bond persona attracts people. I'll still watch Skyfall for definite - but until further notice, to me, the guy is not Bond.
I'm an old fashioned sort of person and although some of the Bond films really are beyond crap, they have a strong sense of nostalgia attached to them for me and, as such, a degree of sentimentality. I watched Quantum of Solace and was a bit "lolwut?" all the way through, not really knowing what was going on...then I watched Casino Royale and thought "lolwut?" before realising I probably should have watched that one first. Like with anything they try to drag into the current day, it's not going to appeal to everyone but I can see why the grit and drama of the Craig Bond persona attracts people. I'll still watch Skyfall for definite - but until further notice, to me, the guy is not Bond.
To be fair bond was kind of random when comes to sexism, the women often shift from capable and skilled to dizzy and hopeless from film to film. It's like Honey Rider from the very first film, she's capable, intelligent and adventurous plus she killed the man who raped her as a young woman with a black widow which is far from the typical bond girl stereotypes that you hear feminists in the guardian complaining about. But then you have complete clutzes like Tiffany case or the classic dumb blonde from the man with golden gun: these types of bond girls can't even fire a machine gun without falling into the ocean, or nearly kill bond by leaning on the solar laser etc. Either way I was entertained.
I grew up with the Brosnan Bond films, so they have to be my favourite. Muchos nostalgia with those ones; Goldeneye especially. I think my brother and I pretty much bonded over the N64 game. I actually watched a couple of the Brosnan ones back-to-back not too long ago, much to my mother's disbelief. "I can't believe my daughter is a Bond fan!" "Must've gotten that from your father." You'd think she'd found a heroin stash under my mattress or something. I did fill up the Sky+ box with numerous Bond films but in my defense she does the same with her Downton Abbey and whatnot. Yeah, she's old.
I haven't seen Skyfall yet...and to be honest - I don't think I will. I'm not a huge fan of Craig as Bond because ewblondeguys. So, that's keeping me away. But it's also because the new Twilight just got released and I'm kinda scared to go anywhere near a cinema. Those Twitards can sense fear. ;_;
I haven't seen Skyfall yet...and to be honest - I don't think I will. I'm not a huge fan of Craig as Bond because ewblondeguys. So, that's keeping me away. But it's also because the new Twilight just got released and I'm kinda scared to go anywhere near a cinema. Those Twitards can sense fear. ;_;
Tsuyu
is wearing Queen's lace panties.
I like the type of characters craig plays usually, like when he was Lt Berry in sharpe, he has a thing for playing brutal characters with a hint of class.
Can't say it works for me in bond though. I like him as a villain rather than a protagonist.
Can't say it works for me in bond though. I like him as a villain rather than a protagonist.
Tsuyu
is wearing Queen's lace panties.
Alright so I gave the movie a second viewing before it gets pulled of the big screen, trying to keep more of an open mind, and I've got to say...
It is not bad. It is in fact pretty good. The opening sequence with Adele is also good. Damn good. I still don't feel it was a Bond movie apart from the bits where they tried to make the point that they are in a Bond movie; like the ending scene when they recreate the scene(s) where Bond goes to flirt with Ms. Moneypenny, then enters M's office to get his mission. I liked that scene, a lot. Other than that it felt like 24: The Movie with it's focus on hacking and internet crime. All it was missing was the countdown cut-awawy and the way 24 makes use of split frames with different characters in them, comic book style.
Craig's Bond is also growing on me. He has improved a lot since Casino Royale. At certain points in the movie his mannerism were very similar to the good ol' Bond(s). The main villain I still don't like. Austin Powers in Goldmember ruins it for me; with this blonde hair and maniacal mannerism he reminds me too much of the Goldmember character!
I also enjoyed the part with the Komodo Dragon. Every good villain needs a pit full of voracious creatures! But why oh why did the dragon(s) have to be horrible(read: obvious) CGI? They could've used real dragons for most shots, with a puppet for when it was biting into the leg of and dragging that guy!
It is not bad. It is in fact pretty good. The opening sequence with Adele is also good. Damn good. I still don't feel it was a Bond movie apart from the bits where they tried to make the point that they are in a Bond movie; like the ending scene when they recreate the scene(s) where Bond goes to flirt with Ms. Moneypenny, then enters M's office to get his mission. I liked that scene, a lot. Other than that it felt like 24: The Movie with it's focus on hacking and internet crime. All it was missing was the countdown cut-awawy and the way 24 makes use of split frames with different characters in them, comic book style.
Craig's Bond is also growing on me. He has improved a lot since Casino Royale. At certain points in the movie his mannerism were very similar to the good ol' Bond(s). The main villain I still don't like. Austin Powers in Goldmember ruins it for me; with this blonde hair and maniacal mannerism he reminds me too much of the Goldmember character!
I also enjoyed the part with the Komodo Dragon. Every good villain needs a pit full of voracious creatures! But why oh why did the dragon(s) have to be horrible(read: obvious) CGI? They could've used real dragons for most shots, with a puppet for when it was biting into the leg of and dragging that guy!