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Anyone here know about physics? III

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Anyone here know about physics? III

This time I'm just curious.

So how does Hawking radiation work?

I know that the particle with positive mass has enough energy to escape. But logic is telling me that the gravity of black hole should effect the particle with negative mass by repelling it, and attract the positive particle. What don't I know?

God this ****'s confusing.
 
Re: Anyone here know about physics? III

Gravity does not discern positive from negative - Black Holes consume everything. All light, whether the particles are positive or negative, is consumed as well.
 
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Actually, Steven Hawking has proven (as far as anything purely theoretical can be proven) that when you apply quantum physics to black holes, you discover that they emit Hawking radiation. My understanding of it is thus:

All over the universe, pairs of particles are being created. One has a positive mass and the other has a negative mass. They usually annihalate themselves on each other before anything else happens.

Just beyond the event horizon of a black hole though, the gravity is so strong, that it messes with these particles. The particle with negative mass is sucked in, whilst the positive particle has just enough energy to escape. Therefore, black holes emit this radiation. The black hole's mass gradually decreases over time (because adding a negative is actually subtraction). Eventually, once a critical mass is reached, the black hole erupts.

What I don't understand is how the particle is sucked in. Shouldn't the particle with negative mass be repelled by the gravity, whilst the positive particle is attracted?
 
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My guess is that since Black Holes are so strong and they distort things, they themselves are distorted - to the point of repelling positive and absorbing negative.
 
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They don't distort anything... Things around them just appear distorted because of extreme gravitational lensing... I think.
 
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Well black holes are basically the be all and end all of gravity wells. Once something reaches a certain mass, it's gravity starts compressing it into an infinitely small space (take a moment to consider the word "infinite". This is crazy **** we're talking about). There is basically a zone around that area (particle? point? I dont know what to call it. But it's small as ****) where nothing can get out. The edge of this zone, where it meets normal space, is called an event horizon. Once something passes it, that something would require infinite acceleration to escape (again, consider the word "infinite").

Quantum physics stipulates (apparantly. This **** is really confusing) that all over the universe, pairs of particles (positive mass. Not charge) and antiparticles (negative mass) are spontaneously appearing, and subsequently annhialating themselves on each other (+1 + -1 = 0).

We always thought that black holes suck everything in, and don't let anything out. We were technically right, but also wrong at the same time. Just outside the event horizon of the black hole, the gravity is so strong that the particle pairs I mentioned earlier don't have time to annhialate themselves on each other. For some reason, the particle with negative mass get's sucked into the black hole (which reduces the mass of the black hole, no?), and the positive particle escapes. This makes it appear as though the black hole is emitting radiation (though this isn't quite correct. It is merely attracting particles with negative mass). Nevertheless, the effect is the same. The black hole evaporates over time (at an accelerating rate), and once a critical mass is reached, the black hole explodes with a bunch of random energy (random in the type, not the amount).
 
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I briefly read that it was to conserve energy, but I can't see how that works.