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Civilian National Security Force

Sean

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Civilian National Security Force

WTF?

Obama wants to have a civilian force who are funded and trained the same as the military, just to be "Terrorist Spotters"? What the **** is wrong with that picture? They said people between the ages of 18 - 23 will do 6 months of basic training, and they said it's required but it's not forced... Hmm. What do you guys think about this? I honestly don't even know what to say, except the fact that it sounds like the SS or Secret Service, cough, Hitler.
 
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Can I have a link to something explaining it properly?
 
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Arseface;333253 said:
Can I have a link to something explaining it properly?
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Yeah I'll get you one tomorrow, I'm on mobile.

And to the other person, HOW in ANY aspect is that good?
 
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I think he's saying that it would be good for hjim if he didn't have to do it, not that it would be a good idea if he didn't have to do it.
 
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Arseface;333256 said:
I think he's saying that it would be good for hjim if he didn't have to do it, not that it would be a good idea if he didn't have to do it.
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Ah, okay, I see.
 
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You don't need to force millions to go through basic training and carry weapons around the US to have extra eyes on terrorists, they could just keep some troops in the US instead of sending them all to the middle east. No need for a secret police.
 
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In Singapore, this happens to everyone who turns 18 - they have to do 6 months of National Service.

In Malaysia it's the same except only a list of people have to do it - if you aren't on the list then you're free to do whatever.
 
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Sean;333276 said:
You don't need to force millions to go through basic training and carry weapons around the US to have extra eyes on terrorists, they could just keep some troops in the US instead of sending them all to the middle east. No need for a secret police.
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Especially when most of them have weapons anyway.

droded;333279 said:
In Singapore, this happens to everyone who turns 18 - they have to do 6 months of National Service.

In Malaysia it's the same except only a list of people have to do it - if you aren't on the list then you're free to do whatever.
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That's pretty weird... How do they decide who's on the list?
 
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Lucky Dip thats how. They pick names randomly from a database.
 
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Its very good actually. Here in Sweden you get "drafted" when you turn 18 and you're called in for a physical and psychological testing. If you pass you're given the choice of advancing further, or call it quits i.e if your studying or something takes priority. When "Lumpen"(as the military education is called) is over you can advance your military career by staying or again call it quits after you've done your duty and return to your life as a civilian.

A lot better than having, no offense, shotgun tootin' redneck civilians going on about "huntin' terrorists!" without any sort of control. I would full-heartedly support this if I lived in th states.
 
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^Exactly... Especially nowa-days where the hype over terrorism is even bigger. I wouldn't mind having to do these classes, I would probably get offered a job as a Marksman once they say my grouping. ;)
 
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Sean;333249 said:
WTF?

Obama wants to have a civilian force who are funded and trained the same as the military, just to be "Terrorist Spotters"? What the **** is wrong with that picture? They said people between the ages of 18 - 23 will do 6 months of basic training, and they said it's required but it's not forced... Hmm. What do you guys think about this? I honestly don't even know what to say, except the fact that it sounds like the SS or Secret Service, cough, Hitler.
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droded;333279 said:
In Singapore, this happens to everyone who turns 18 - they have to do 6 months of National Service.

In Malaysia it's the same except only a list of people have to do it - if you aren't on the list then you're free to do whatever.
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I haven't heard anything like this, but it sounds like a good idea to me. I've always like the thought of universal military service, even though I'd be leery about us actually having it. And this sounds like a good way to do it without actually having military service. But yes, I kinda approve of Singapore, Switzerland, Israel, and the rest.

Though, really, I'd rather they just took any money for something like this and gave it to the Coast Guard. They need the money. And I want to be one. What's not to like?

Also, no, it sounds nothing like the SS (which is Schutzstaffel, not Secret Service, and something completely different.) The SS was a volunteer organization of fanatics with an ultimate loyalty to the Nazi party and Hitler, plus a tendency to beat down people who tried to hold political protests.
 
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"the right to bare arms" in the bill of rights was added for the same reason. for people to be able to defend themselves in an international crisis. recieving this training is obviously for the same purpose, only a step further.

it only makes sense since a lot of countries in the world hate the U.S. (we do a lot of dumb things after all...)
 
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I don't get any of those american Special government organizations, I don't see how this is anything but a bunch of extra paperwork and a cool jacket with an abreversion on it.

I think this is gonna do more good than bad in the end. government organizations don't exactly get a long as it is
 
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Xeon;333430 said:
I don't get any of those american Special government organizations, I don't see how this is anything but a bunch of extra paperwork and a cool jacket with an abreversion on it.

I think this is gonna do more good than bad in the end. government organizations don't exactly get a long as it is
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Not sure what you mean by "special government organizations." Nothing all that special about most of them. I will admit that we have a lot of them, and lots of them have overlapping areas of authority. I mean, do we really need Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms AND the Drug Enforcement Agency? Do we really need 15 or so different counterterrorism and intelligence agencies?

I mean, geeze, just destroy them and give the Coast Guard all their funding. And yes, that IS my answer for everything.

And also, I'm not entirely sure where Sean got this from, since I haven't heard about anything like this on the news or anything, which might just mean that it's a rumor or a garbled fact. So we might be talking about a figment of someone's imagination.
 
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