Financial abortion

[Arseface]

I crave intelligent conversation but lord knows I aint getting it in real life. Please engage me!

I recently hearded about the concept of financial abortion the other day. What it means is that the father should have the right to "abort" just like the mother by abolishing all economical duties (and stuff like visiting rights!) if the mother decides to keep the kid. Sounds stupid at first, but as a man it sorta makes sense; a woman can take the morning after pill. She can have an abortion. The man has only one choice; the condom (or similar). After that his right to choose is stripped from him and it all rests with the woman. Once he comes inside of her his rights are stripped from him, frankly.

If we as a society allows women to decide, shouldn't we be default allow the man to do so as well? That, dear feminists around the globe, is equality.

I would never do that myself, I don't like the idea of abortion. I don't think anyone should be forced to do anything though, so in essence I agree with what you're saying. It wouldn't make it "ok" in my eyes though.

 

[Tsuyu]

I honestly don't know what I would do either. Hopefully I am smart enough not to knock up some random chick as to never put myself in a situation that would warrant it. But you got to admit that it is an interesting topic because, at least to me personally. It raises a lot of questions about our supposedly patriarchal and oppressive society we men are alleged to be running here, as well the fact that when you're talking about equality you have to include men too, not just women.

When it comes to creating a life, it does take both a man and a woman - they are equally involved. If the man wants to opt out shouldn't he somehow, through financial abortion or something else, have the same means and right to do it as the woman Again, I don't know but I am leaning towards "yes".

 

[MissAlbion89]

Well, personally, I am against abortion. I feel that, from the moment the child is conceived, it is a living person, and therefore abortion is murder. The only time I would condone it would be in cases of rape or abuse, but otherwise, I just think it's a huge no.

As for your question, I don't feel that the father should be allowed to do that. Whether or not it was accidental, the child in question is still his child; giving him the option to back out with a financial abortion is basically just saying it's okay for him to be a "deadbeat dad". As someone mentioned earlier, the father being lied to about the mother being on birth control would be a difficult issue, because the father would assume that there was no possible way for him to get her pregnant, particularly if he was using protection as well. In a seriously unlucky scenario where the condom ripped and the birth control was ineffective, then i'm not entirely sure, because it's really nobody's fault in that case.

However, if it was simply one or the other, ie. him using protection OR her using birth control, and something went wrong and she got pregnant, he should have to pay for the child, because they weren't as safe as they could be. Additionally, if neither of them used any sort of protection, then in my opinion, the father should have to pay extra for the child just because he was dumb enough to have sex without it, particularly because he knew the implications of such a choice, be it pregnancy or STDs.

I just don't feel that the father should really have a choice in the matter. It was his fault that she's pregnant, he doesn't have to carry the child around for 9 months, and he doesn't necessarily have to adjust his life to make room for the baby. There's also the chance that the mother mightn't want the baby either, in which case, abortion is completely out of the question, in my opinion. I personally know a couple who absolutely adore kids but are unable to have any of their own. People who get pregnant accidentally and abort the child are just selfish, because that child could easily be put up for adoption and make another couple seriously happy.

That's just my take on it though .

 

[Skotekal]

This be a tough one to think about... But I kind of agree in a way. I still feel weird about it, but I do think if the woman wants to go through with the pregnancy, the guy should be able to financially opt out. Or at least have a say in whether an abortion is performed. And not all kids get adopted. The more you put out there, the more likely some kid won't get adopted at some point.

So in essence, yeah, I think the dad should be able to **** off and go about his business if they disagree on an abortion. But it would be much better if they both just had a say in the procedure.