It's 420
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Re: It's 420
It's similar to prohibition - as soon as you illegalize something, it opens up a niche for criminals to traffic said illegal product. Legalisation would allow careful monitoring of the drug and stop cartels from making money.
Also, all the 'oldies' I've spoken too say the stuff around now is more damaging for the brain because of it's strength, and it's true. Compare AK-47 to Big Buddha Cheese and you'll see the difference.
The Government could monitor that accordnigly.
It's similar to prohibition - as soon as you illegalize something, it opens up a niche for criminals to traffic said illegal product. Legalisation would allow careful monitoring of the drug and stop cartels from making money.
Also, all the 'oldies' I've spoken too say the stuff around now is more damaging for the brain because of it's strength, and it's true. Compare AK-47 to Big Buddha Cheese and you'll see the difference.
The Government could monitor that accordnigly.
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Exactly. It made the mafia get involved and lots of bad stuff went down. Look at Amsterdam where both prostitution and pot is legal under controlled forms. By legalizing these things there is no attractiveness for criminals to be dealing with it and as such they totally eliminated all the "bad elements" that usually comes with the two.
Purple Nurple;381482 said:
Exactly. It made the mafia get involved and lots of bad stuff went down. Look at Amsterdam where both prostitution and pot is legal under controlled forms. By legalizing these things there is no attractiveness for criminals to be dealing with it and as such they totally eliminated all the "bad elements" that usually comes with the two.
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Exactly.
If it was made legal the prostitutes would have the same level of security as a licensed pornstar. But instead they are stuck in the horrible world they all live in now, just because people are morons.
Gikoku Harakami;381492 said:
Exactly.
If it was made legal the prostitutes would have the same level of security as a licensed pornstar. But instead they are stuck in the horrible world they all live in now, just because people are morons.
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In the UK, prostitution itself is not technically illegal - but touting for business is. Getting paid for sex is not against the law but if you advertise your, er, services then you risk getting banged up. And not in the way you intended...Gikoku Harakami;381492 said:
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Yeah same over here in Sweden. But in the States I think it is illegal for both parties involved.
EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I realize what a sweet job being a male porn star would be. No more hanging at bars, no more pick-up lines and awkward mornings after. Just gettin' it on with hot babes all day long and in the end of the month you get a big fat paycheck for your "troubles". Legal and everything.
Angel;381507 said:
Yeah same over here in Sweden. But in the States I think it is illegal for both parties involved.
EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I realize what a sweet job being a male porn star would be. No more hanging at bars, no more pick-up lines and awkward mornings after. Just gettin' it on with hot babes all day long and in the end of the month you get a big fat paycheck for your "troubles". Legal and everything.
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Because it's bad for the soul, duh.
Seriously, this is one of the only things Australia has going for it. Legal prostitution.
You'd probably get bored of it, and it would just get like wanking in the end. Besides, the chase is half the fun (well, it's a part of it, at least).
Gikoku Harakami;381492 said:
Because it's bad for the soul, duh.
Seriously, this is one of the only things Australia has going for it. Legal prostitution.
Tsuyu;381510 said:
You'd probably get bored of it, and it would just get like wanking in the end. Besides, the chase is half the fun (well, it's a part of it, at least).
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Re: It's 420
I'd just like to throw something out there since nobody's mentioned it yet. The reason some people drink or smoke illegally is because they get a rush from doing something they're not supposed to. People most likely won't be consciously thinking this when they're about to take a swig from a bottle or a hit from a bong, but it might have influenced their choice to do so to some degree. If weed is legalized, that thrill will be taken away, and less people will have a desire to smoke it. That's why the US has a much higher rate of drunk driving accidents than do European countries with a low drinking age or none at all.
Yea, that's true. Like you said, legalizing it will help that, but for now, it's nice to have a brother who's been a pothead for seven years and knows exactly what he's buying. :lol:
Weed is a gateway drug. People want to achieve a much bigger high once they're bored with weed. I've been seeing it happen this school year. Smoking it in moderation, however, makes you less tolerant and will keep you satisfied with your highs.
I understand your lack of access to it, but for future reference, it won't hurt your attention span or grades unless you smoke it all the time. I started smoking last July, and ever since then, I've only done it about two or three times per month. My grades have not fallen at all. In fact, if anything, they're better than they used to be (not that there's a correlation between that and smoking weed, though).
I couldn't agree more.
Exactly.
I was thinking about that very same thing just the other day. As if one party paying for the sex instead of being paid for it makes the situation bad...
Not in Reno!
Well sure, every straight guy has had that exact thought at least once, but male porn starts have a terribly low salary. It's something like $40,000 a year while female porn stars make six figures.
Porn stars are tested for STDs, and are let go if they have any.
I'd just like to throw something out there since nobody's mentioned it yet. The reason some people drink or smoke illegally is because they get a rush from doing something they're not supposed to. People most likely won't be consciously thinking this when they're about to take a swig from a bottle or a hit from a bong, but it might have influenced their choice to do so to some degree. If weed is legalized, that thrill will be taken away, and less people will have a desire to smoke it. That's why the US has a much higher rate of drunk driving accidents than do European countries with a low drinking age or none at all.
hobbes_pwn;381368 said:
Yea, that's true. Like you said, legalizing it will help that, but for now, it's nice to have a brother who's been a pothead for seven years and knows exactly what he's buying. :lol:
Diablo;381373 said:
Zjuggernaut;381462 said:
Weed is a gateway drug. People want to achieve a much bigger high once they're bored with weed. I've been seeing it happen this school year. Smoking it in moderation, however, makes you less tolerant and will keep you satisfied with your highs.
Firis;381461 said:
I understand your lack of access to it, but for future reference, it won't hurt your attention span or grades unless you smoke it all the time. I started smoking last July, and ever since then, I've only done it about two or three times per month. My grades have not fallen at all. In fact, if anything, they're better than they used to be (not that there's a correlation between that and smoking weed, though).
Zjuggernaut;381462 said:
I couldn't agree more.
Zjuggernaut;381462 said:
Exactly.
Gikoku Harakami;381492 said:
I was thinking about that very same thing just the other day. As if one party paying for the sex instead of being paid for it makes the situation bad...
Tsuyu;381510 said:
Not in Reno!
Tsuyu;381510 said:
Well sure, every straight guy has had that exact thought at least once, but male porn starts have a terribly low salary. It's something like $40,000 a year while female porn stars make six figures.
Evan52395;381547 said:
Porn stars are tested for STDs, and are let go if they have any.
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Re: It's 420
Look at it this way. You are more likely to find a kid smoking weed during school than alcohol. The only solution is weed bars really.
For your gateway drugs argument
For "Weed ruins lives!"
So do alcohol and cigs.
All three will either psychologicaly or physically ruin you at different rates for different people..
Today cigarettes and alcohol in countries like Australia, are not a big deal when seeing kids smoking or/and drinking... However if a family member found you getting high matters would be different causing it to be a serious issue.. Parents (who think it is wrong) will question their siblings trust, and in an extreme case (if they think weed is very harmful) will kick the boy out. This happened to a friend of mine, who was called a junkie by his father.
Yes legalization will change many views when it happens, yet it will take a bit of time to change the majority.
"Weed is a gateway drug!"
I think they were going to try those drugs whether they smoked weed or not.
Some countries/communities/families yes and some no. Similar to what i said before, some countries will view marijuana as a social drug, others won't.
There is a big difference between countries. Examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory#Study_of_Australian_Adolescents_.288_years.29
If marijuana was legalized in Australia, for some time it would still be considered an anti-social drug, and would be associated with harder drugs and failure (for example getting high during an exam.) However in America marijuana would be considered more of a social drug, straight off and would be associated with lets say positive things such as having fun (similar to how alcohol is viewed.)
Maybe in the future if it was legalized countries would view it differently, but you have to remember people will hold onto some beliefs.
I think if weed is well policed and has a suitable age limit it is safe
The point I'm trying to get at, from past experience, is that some cultures will smoke weed and not go to school or not work in school
As for other cultures they will be more appropriate and only smoke it at social events.
This is just an example (no offence Necromancer.) Legalizing it will cause some communities to view the drug differently. Like Necromancer's area might not view it as a rebellious thing and smoke at parties. Whilst other communities will treat the legalization as something that will cross off all the bad effects of marijuana and smoke it often.
Despite all this anti-legalization points i am still with legalization and as i stated before Diablo
In some cases though, factors like how regular you smoke it and it's quality too.
Another point is that you are more likely to contact dealers that sell hard drugs through a stoner, than lets say someone who drinks alcohol at max in Australia (and other countries.) The reason being is that teens will view taking the drug as passing the line between social and anti-social drugs. This can create a split from people who want to not cross the line and those that don't.
At the moment Australia isn't ready yet, since the media will associate marijuana as uncommon and disruptive... Yet for other countries it will be viewed differently.
This is really the culture side to the issue, and not the medical or economic side (which has a potential to get USA out of recession.)
I think if the average middle-age population of a country view it as a street drug then the country is not ready.. Kids that have parents who don't view it as a street drug might not take it, but if they do they're more likely to be responsible with it and/or take it in a safe environment
Diablo;381373 said:
Look at it this way. You are more likely to find a kid smoking weed during school than alcohol. The only solution is weed bars really.
For your gateway drugs argument
For "Weed ruins lives!"
So do alcohol and cigs.
All three will either psychologicaly or physically ruin you at different rates for different people..
Today cigarettes and alcohol in countries like Australia, are not a big deal when seeing kids smoking or/and drinking... However if a family member found you getting high matters would be different causing it to be a serious issue.. Parents (who think it is wrong) will question their siblings trust, and in an extreme case (if they think weed is very harmful) will kick the boy out. This happened to a friend of mine, who was called a junkie by his father.
Yes legalization will change many views when it happens, yet it will take a bit of time to change the majority.
"Weed is a gateway drug!"
I think they were going to try those drugs whether they smoked weed or not.
Some countries/communities/families yes and some no. Similar to what i said before, some countries will view marijuana as a social drug, others won't.
There is a big difference between countries. Examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory#Study_of_Australian_Adolescents_.288_years.29
If marijuana was legalized in Australia, for some time it would still be considered an anti-social drug, and would be associated with harder drugs and failure (for example getting high during an exam.) However in America marijuana would be considered more of a social drug, straight off and would be associated with lets say positive things such as having fun (similar to how alcohol is viewed.)
Maybe in the future if it was legalized countries would view it differently, but you have to remember people will hold onto some beliefs.
I think if weed is well policed and has a suitable age limit it is safe
The point I'm trying to get at, from past experience, is that some cultures will smoke weed and not go to school or not work in school
As for other cultures they will be more appropriate and only smoke it at social events.
Necromancer11;381298 said:
This is just an example (no offence Necromancer.) Legalizing it will cause some communities to view the drug differently. Like Necromancer's area might not view it as a rebellious thing and smoke at parties. Whilst other communities will treat the legalization as something that will cross off all the bad effects of marijuana and smoke it often.
Despite all this anti-legalization points i am still with legalization and as i stated before Diablo
hobbes_pwn;381368 said:
In some cases though, factors like how regular you smoke it and it's quality too.
Another point is that you are more likely to contact dealers that sell hard drugs through a stoner, than lets say someone who drinks alcohol at max in Australia (and other countries.) The reason being is that teens will view taking the drug as passing the line between social and anti-social drugs. This can create a split from people who want to not cross the line and those that don't.
At the moment Australia isn't ready yet, since the media will associate marijuana as uncommon and disruptive... Yet for other countries it will be viewed differently.
This is really the culture side to the issue, and not the medical or economic side (which has a potential to get USA out of recession.)
I think if the average middle-age population of a country view it as a street drug then the country is not ready.. Kids that have parents who don't view it as a street drug might not take it, but if they do they're more likely to be responsible with it and/or take it in a safe environment
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It'd be way more secure than that. They screen people for STD's regularly and contraception is probably mandatory.
Don't you just chase after them and lassoo them? I thought that's what everyone did.
Evan52395;381547 said:
It'd be way more secure than that. They screen people for STD's regularly and contraception is probably mandatory.
JohnDoe;381548 said:
Don't you just chase after them and lassoo them? I thought that's what everyone did.
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In response to people arguing that it will lower crime rate, i believe not so.
With the legalization, the legal weed will have restriction and grown naturally. It is likely though that stronger weed (with mixes of chemicals) will continue to sell on the street.
I mean an example of this is when America legalized alcohol after the prohibion, there was still bootlegging with moonshine..
Also youth that want to rebel will just find another drug to replace marijuana
In response to people arguing that it will lower crime rate, i believe not so.
With the legalization, the legal weed will have restriction and grown naturally. It is likely though that stronger weed (with mixes of chemicals) will continue to sell on the street.
I mean an example of this is when America legalized alcohol after the prohibion, there was still bootlegging with moonshine..
Also youth that want to rebel will just find another drug to replace marijuana