Jack Thompson Blames Violent Games For Mass Killing

[FableFreak]

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You just proved my point all over again, and made my argument even stronger.

I aint no America hater who burns the flag and stuff, but I find the right to carry guns to be extremely idiotic. No matter how you disguise it by arguing that the gun is just another "tool" like a screwdriver or whatever - a screwdriver isn't designed to kill. This is what happens, and nearly 40 people are dead.

Now what do you mean by saying "the right to carry guns"? Because its illegal to have any sort of weapon, concealed or not, in public places.

Tsuyu, I have a great deal of respect for you. I do like you a lot, and I'd rather not get into a heated debate over this. So if we could not say anything that would make ourselves angry at each other then lets not do so.

 

[droded]

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Dude... In Malaysia if your seen with a weapon you get hanged...(Don't mind me)

 

[Arckon]

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You just proved my point all over again, and made my argument even stronger.

I aint no America hater who burns the flag and stuff, but I find the right to carry guns to be extremely idiotic. No matter how you disguise it by arguing that the gun is just another "tool" like a screwdriver or whatever - a screwdriver isn't designed to kill. This is what happens, and nearly 40 people are dead.

I agree with you completly, but we have the right to bear arms, for two reasons
1)Protection
2)to hunt, and only then we have to go through hunter safety, and we have to have a permit.
But we don't have the right to carry and consel arms, only the armed forces and Policemen and government burrows the that right.

This is not an arguement just stateing the facts

 

[Hexadecimal]

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I think that the "right to bear arms" does make obtaining a firearm a bit simpler than it would be in other nations which don't have rights like that...
obviously it's not legal for an American to simply march about with a gun cocked at all times and wander about with it in public.... but it's also not legal for anyone to go on a killing spree... so whether the law frowns upon taking them out with you or not is really a moot point, as it's the fact that they have the guns so readily available in the first place that is the issue...
obviously there are much bigger factors, for instance everyone who owns a gun doesn't go around killing people... that's a sign of a serious psychological problem... but if that person was going to snap either way, and didn't have such ready access to a firearm, perhaps events would have gone differently...

 

[Vegeta]

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All your points are good but I mostly thought Fablefreak and Tsuyu had the best 1's

and about the right to bear arms... well I would say only for hunting... and the person who sells you the gun must check your record make sure its clean and etc.

 

[Tsuyu]

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I agree with you completly, but we have the right to bear arms, for two reasons
1)Protection
2)to hunt, and only then we have to go through hunter safety, and we have to have a permit.
But we don't have the right to carry and consel arms, only the armed forces and Policemen and government burrows the that right.

This is not an arguement just stateing the facts

Now what do you mean by saying "the right to carry guns"? Because its illegal to have any sort of weapon, concealed or not, in public places..

A physopath hell-bent on shooting up his school wouldn't give a crap about those rules. The only thing that matters is that he has got a really easy access to guns. He wouldn't give a crap if he wasn't allowed to "conceal" it or whatever.

By the "right to bear guns" I mean the thingy on that paper that allows Americans to own guns, which means it is alot easier to get one in America than in other countries. Not that all Americans go around waving their guns in public, but the fact that they have the right to own a couple makes it, as I said, easier to get one.

And when I say it is "idiotic" it is because, as you can see by the number of school shootings, that anyone can get a gun or two. There is no system in place to only sell it to people who just want to protect their familiy, and I don't think such a system could ever be created anyway.

 

[FableFreak]

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A physopath hell-bent on shooting up his school wouldn't give a crap about those rules.

I do realize that, but I was just making a general statement. As I said, there were many other factors that could have prevented this. Its not just the guns. The fact that he had stalked 3 different people, wrote macabre play scripts full of violence, and had clear and present psychological problems should have been reason enough for him to be examined and treated for depression and a horrific psychological state.

 

[Tsuyu]

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I do realize that, but I was just making a general statement. As I said, there were many other factors that could have prevented this. Its not just the guns. The fact that he had stalked 3 different people, wrote macabre play scripts full of violence, and had clear and present psychological problems should have been reason enough for him to be examined and treated for depression and a horrific psychological state.

Naturally, so did all the other kids who killed their classmates in other school shootings.

But they didn't, and then it didn't exactly help that they could get their hands on a couple of firearms, no?

I mean, sure they'd snap eventually, but never on this scale.

 

[FableFreak]

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I'm not talking about other school shootings. I'm not comparing them because this was much worse, and I'm simply saying that in this case this man had obvious psychological problems. Problems which were quite clear, and his disturbed psyche were signs of his impending "snap".

 

[Darg]

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I can see his point a bit (a very, very miniscule bit I might add), but it's not like you play GTA or Gears of War and you're suddenly provoked to murder someone. It's only the fault of the gamers who are stupid enough to take the images and experiences of a game and pervert them into some reason to suddenly snap and kill someone. In a nutshell, it's not the game, but the gamer. If they slap a mature rating on something, it doesn't mean you have to be old enough to play it, it just means that you can handle it in my book.

 

[RuneMaster]

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God I hate this man. . . I dont see any one in the streets trying to perform fatalities like in Mortal Kombat. I dont see kids taking turns hitting each other with over-sized swords like in final fantasy. Im not saying games cant influence people, they can, easily even-but not o the extent these people claim; unless the person is severly disturbed (psychologically) or extremely and I mean extremely influenceble (in which case a movie or another person could have talked him into it.) The fact is we'll never know, because he's dead.

I myself own guns, and I feel I have the right to. But Im all for putting heavier restrictions on who can obtain guns and how. Its stupid that some gun stores dont even require a background check, I dont want to loose my right to carry guns, cause hell shooting is fun, but I dont ever want to have to read a story like this again. Somthing needs to be done , but im not sure what that somthing is.

 

[FableFreak]

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I myself own guns, and I feel I have the right to. But Im all for putting heavier restrictions on who can obtain guns and how. Its stupid that some gun stores dont even require a background check, I dont want to loose my right to carry guns, cause hell shooting is fun, but I dont ever want to have to read a story like this again. Somthing needs to be done , but im not sure what that somthing is.

Hey, none of us do. I don't want to lose my right to arms either, but there is literally no simple solution. It will take a long time, maybe decades to resolve this, maybe never. But until that happens bickering and debating won't solve anything. The authorities will have to deal with it the best they can.

 

[RuneMaster]

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Hey, none of us do. I don't want to lose my right to arms either, but there is literally no simple solution. It will take a long time, maybe decades to resolve this, maybe never. But until that happens bickering and debating won't solve anything. The authorities will have to deal with it the best they can.

Smartest post Ive read all night.

 

[suffering]

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so.... he doesnt want us playing violent games.... yet we can just join the army and do aome real life killing.... idiot...

 

[FableFreak]

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It turns out the killer bought the weapons from a pawn shop across the street from his campus. Pawn shops usually don't run background checks, and its usually a simple "give me this and you get that" type of transaction. So he didn't buy his gun from a run of the mill gunstore.

 

[Tsuyu]

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Hey, none of us do. I don't want to lose my right to arms either, but there is literally no simple solution. It will take a long time, maybe decades to resolve this, maybe never. But until that happens bickering and debating won't solve anything. The authorities will have to deal with it the best they can.

There is one solution: Remove the right to bear arms, with all that comes with it. Granted, Americans will be p-o'ed and with the ammount of guns already in circulation they might never truly get rid of all of them.

As long as it is this easy to get guns, insane people like Chu will go on mass-slaughters like this. I doubt this was the last one.

It might sound like I really hate America or whatever, but as I said, I don't. I also don't think it is stupid as a whole, country and people. As for politics I think most countries are stupid - don't even get me started on Sweden's politics.

 

[droded]

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Just raise the age to carry weapons to like 25/30. Teenagers have too many mood swings.

 

[Grim Reefa]

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haha yeah i agree. all they need is a good fix of some Pot, dope, grass, weed, Mary Jane, chronic, reefer, ganja, kaya, doobie, keef, durry.

 

[suffering]

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why dont we send that to the government?

because they wont ******* listen.

 

[souledge37]

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honestly who doesn't want to kill at least one person they hate in they're own town:realmad:. who here is not seeing my point.