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Re: star wars vs. lord of the rings
Well, in my opinion...shouldn't we be debating on the movies, rather than the games?
Just my opinion, anyway. Before I tell you what I voted, let me compare the two movies:
Star Wars: Had good special effects for it's time, and some nice moments. But i'm afraid that kind of stuff covers the overall bad acting of all the films. (Liam Neeson, Jones, Mcgregor, were the only good actors really...also the guy that played old obi-wan) I believe the rest didn't do well. Hayden Christianson is just a **** poor actor, in my opinion.
Lord of the Rings: Based on a legendary novel by JRR Tolkien and his son, Christopher Tolkien. The last one in his British group to carry on the Middle Earth premise, Tolkien forged a large spectacle. Through this, he put romance...magic...action, adventure...and heart. Not only this, but Tolkien showed that power can effect anyone. But also, even the smallest person can change the course of the future.
Peter Jackson, a director of some unknown films to the majority of the public, received the rights of making a Lord of the Rings trilogy. Tolkien, because the books were so complex and long, believed the trilogy couldn't be adapted into a film. But he was wrong. In 1998, Peter Jackson began forging the Lord of the Rings movie.
Lets first look at some of the key things about the movies:
-The movies had a message. Like I said, power corrupts anyone, but even the smallest people can destroy that power.
-This movie showed that, and as the books and the movies pass by...Frodo becomes even more lured into the ring. He basically becomes mad.
-The art in this movie is spectacular. Breathtaking. Ever scene looks amazing. Rivendell, for instance, just the sheer appeal and special effects...just awesome.
-That leads to the special effects. From Nazgul to Trolls, this movie had great effects for its time...better than I see in movies today. But also, the effects blend well in the film making. It isn't like star wars, where you know from the start its CGI. LOTR had so good of CG Landscapes, you couldn't tell if they were real or not, until you found out. There's just so much to this...I can't fit it all in a post.
LOTR movies, combined, has 3,675 shots of special effects. (Didn't remember that by heart, it's off of a LOTR special edition DVD I have)
Don't believe the effects were good at the time? Well, in 1999. the crew had already made the Balrog. If you've seen the movies, thats an Oscar winning CG Monster.
-Now, the sound. The sound is awesome. When you hear the nazgul scream, it's not like a cheap godzilla roar... the sound crew put alot into the sound. When the great eye falls, they combined people screaming to snakes hissing...all these sounds put together. Just watch the movie, the sounds fit well with everything that's going on. For example, did you know that shelob's screams (the big spider in the third movie...for all you new fans) were a mix of a lion and a wolverine?
-The Music. Awesome also. We all know the original theme, the ones who've seen the movie at least. The scores are magnificent.
Into The West by Annie Lenox (YouTube - Annie Lenox - Into The West) is based on Frodo going to the undying lands. And as he sails on the ship, he leaves a lot of his friends behind..and because of this powerful ring, he must sail away and never come back. But, he smiles...because he knows that even though he's leaving...his friends will be alright.
The song is also based on a young director with cancer, whom the singer of this song knew. When she says go,"Into the West' she not only refers to Frodo, but also the director sailing away to Heaven. (Of course, there isn't a Heaven in LOTR...but there is one somewhat of that)
When frodo leaves sam at the steps in ROTK, a faint song plays in the background. The music is so beautiful, you'll have to listen to it yourself. Go ahead, get some songs off of limewire or rent the movie...all the tracks are great.
-The Acting. Superb. Every actor, unlike Star Wars, does fantastic. They put so much emotion into it...they go the extra limit. It's hard to explain..but when you see the movie, you'll shed some tears from some parts.
Here are some good parts:
Frodo: I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought.
Pippin: I didn't think it would end this way.
Gandalf: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path... One that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass... And then you see it.
Pippin: What? Gandalf?... See what?
Gandalf: White shores... and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
Pippin: [smiling] Well, that isn't so bad.
Gandalf: [softly] No... No it isn't. (In the background, you hear the Into The West chorus...faintly playing the score)
-The action. This speaks for itself, way more than Star Wars. I mean, you can't disagree.
-The heart. Like the quotes above, the LOTR movies were saying this:
"Power corrupts anyone. Even the happiest person or the quietest folk. And when it does, your decisions...your mind...your heart, changes. But as long as you have a companion with you, and you go the distance, you can get rid of that power...even if it risks your life.
And during the long ages of war, your personality is changed. As you enter town, you see the happiest people you saw before. But, you are not the same. Your quiet, sad of the ones you lost, depressed slightly. And you can't quite explain what you've seen, or the places you've been to. You just carry on in life, and keep your spirit alive.
But as darkness arises and shadow fills the sky, a friend always keeps the light shining. When your falling down, your friend gives you the hand.
And when you die, it is just another stage in life. "
Tolkien put alot of heart in the books, not just action and suspense. He put reality.
And Peter Jackson puts just the same in the Movie.
This movie won a bakers dozen of Oscars, and they deserved it. They should be remembered as a milestone in Movie, and Book, history.
-So what did I vote for? LOTR. And just for those reasons above. But before you doubt me, let me put a quote from the two towers:
Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.
Take that, Star Wars
Well, in my opinion...shouldn't we be debating on the movies, rather than the games?
Just my opinion, anyway. Before I tell you what I voted, let me compare the two movies:
Star Wars: Had good special effects for it's time, and some nice moments. But i'm afraid that kind of stuff covers the overall bad acting of all the films. (Liam Neeson, Jones, Mcgregor, were the only good actors really...also the guy that played old obi-wan) I believe the rest didn't do well. Hayden Christianson is just a **** poor actor, in my opinion.
Lord of the Rings: Based on a legendary novel by JRR Tolkien and his son, Christopher Tolkien. The last one in his British group to carry on the Middle Earth premise, Tolkien forged a large spectacle. Through this, he put romance...magic...action, adventure...and heart. Not only this, but Tolkien showed that power can effect anyone. But also, even the smallest person can change the course of the future.
Peter Jackson, a director of some unknown films to the majority of the public, received the rights of making a Lord of the Rings trilogy. Tolkien, because the books were so complex and long, believed the trilogy couldn't be adapted into a film. But he was wrong. In 1998, Peter Jackson began forging the Lord of the Rings movie.
Lets first look at some of the key things about the movies:
-The movies had a message. Like I said, power corrupts anyone, but even the smallest people can destroy that power.
-This movie showed that, and as the books and the movies pass by...Frodo becomes even more lured into the ring. He basically becomes mad.
-The art in this movie is spectacular. Breathtaking. Ever scene looks amazing. Rivendell, for instance, just the sheer appeal and special effects...just awesome.
-That leads to the special effects. From Nazgul to Trolls, this movie had great effects for its time...better than I see in movies today. But also, the effects blend well in the film making. It isn't like star wars, where you know from the start its CGI. LOTR had so good of CG Landscapes, you couldn't tell if they were real or not, until you found out. There's just so much to this...I can't fit it all in a post.
LOTR movies, combined, has 3,675 shots of special effects. (Didn't remember that by heart, it's off of a LOTR special edition DVD I have)
Don't believe the effects were good at the time? Well, in 1999. the crew had already made the Balrog. If you've seen the movies, thats an Oscar winning CG Monster.
-Now, the sound. The sound is awesome. When you hear the nazgul scream, it's not like a cheap godzilla roar... the sound crew put alot into the sound. When the great eye falls, they combined people screaming to snakes hissing...all these sounds put together. Just watch the movie, the sounds fit well with everything that's going on. For example, did you know that shelob's screams (the big spider in the third movie...for all you new fans) were a mix of a lion and a wolverine?
-The Music. Awesome also. We all know the original theme, the ones who've seen the movie at least. The scores are magnificent.
Into The West by Annie Lenox (YouTube - Annie Lenox - Into The West) is based on Frodo going to the undying lands. And as he sails on the ship, he leaves a lot of his friends behind..and because of this powerful ring, he must sail away and never come back. But, he smiles...because he knows that even though he's leaving...his friends will be alright.
The song is also based on a young director with cancer, whom the singer of this song knew. When she says go,"Into the West' she not only refers to Frodo, but also the director sailing away to Heaven. (Of course, there isn't a Heaven in LOTR...but there is one somewhat of that)
When frodo leaves sam at the steps in ROTK, a faint song plays in the background. The music is so beautiful, you'll have to listen to it yourself. Go ahead, get some songs off of limewire or rent the movie...all the tracks are great.
-The Acting. Superb. Every actor, unlike Star Wars, does fantastic. They put so much emotion into it...they go the extra limit. It's hard to explain..but when you see the movie, you'll shed some tears from some parts.
Here are some good parts:
Frodo: I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought.
Pippin: I didn't think it would end this way.
Gandalf: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path... One that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass... And then you see it.
Pippin: What? Gandalf?... See what?
Gandalf: White shores... and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
Pippin: [smiling] Well, that isn't so bad.
Gandalf: [softly] No... No it isn't. (In the background, you hear the Into The West chorus...faintly playing the score)
-The action. This speaks for itself, way more than Star Wars. I mean, you can't disagree.
-The heart. Like the quotes above, the LOTR movies were saying this:
"Power corrupts anyone. Even the happiest person or the quietest folk. And when it does, your decisions...your mind...your heart, changes. But as long as you have a companion with you, and you go the distance, you can get rid of that power...even if it risks your life.
And during the long ages of war, your personality is changed. As you enter town, you see the happiest people you saw before. But, you are not the same. Your quiet, sad of the ones you lost, depressed slightly. And you can't quite explain what you've seen, or the places you've been to. You just carry on in life, and keep your spirit alive.
But as darkness arises and shadow fills the sky, a friend always keeps the light shining. When your falling down, your friend gives you the hand.
And when you die, it is just another stage in life. "
Tolkien put alot of heart in the books, not just action and suspense. He put reality.
And Peter Jackson puts just the same in the Movie.
This movie won a bakers dozen of Oscars, and they deserved it. They should be remembered as a milestone in Movie, and Book, history.
-So what did I vote for? LOTR. And just for those reasons above. But before you doubt me, let me put a quote from the two towers:
Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.
Take that, Star Wars
Still it appeals more to kids now, although there are plenty of older Star Wars fans. Plus it's the fans that keep the Star Wars universe alive, not George Lucas(sorry for anyone who disagrees). Star Wars has always been the more popular out of the two, until finally the LOTR movies came out and then the games. However, it's still more popular, but Lord of the Rings has shown us a different side of a new universe...which is better.
