Temporary hiatus.

[Angel]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I think it also doesn't help that a lot of people here are beginning to presume you are posting in a purposefully antagonistic manner and view your messages with that frame of mind - even when this is not the case. So something another may say almost word for word would appear agreeable whereas when you say it, out comes the "well, if he's saying it then he's obviously trolling/flaming - REPORT!"

This cuts both ways, everyone. Just because you have the mindest that someone is trying to provoke, does not necessarily mean that they are. Hell, I've been reported for things I've said before. Granted, the reports come to me, but I gave myself a damn good talking-to, I can assure you.

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I think it also doesn't help that a lot of people here are beginning to presume you are posting in a purposefully antagonistic manner and view your messages with that frame of mind - even when this is not the case. So something another may say almost word for word would appear agreeable whereas when you say it, out comes the "well, if he's saying it then he's obviously trolling/flaming - REPORT!"

This cuts both ways, everyone. Just because you have the mindest that someone is trying to provoke, does not necessarily mean that they are. Hell, I've been reported for things I've said before. Granted, the reports come to me, but I gave myself a damn good talking-to, I can assure you.

Yes... I get that more times than I care to. I do my best to make my posts as intelligent as possible and I do my best to avoid using words that could provoke someone but there are times when my patience wears thin and the person just HAS to continue on. If I could tell them to stop and get them to stop, so many unnecessary conflicts would have been avoided but this isn't the case.

I obviously can't report someone for being annoying either so what do you do in a situation like that?

Also, that last bit made me laugh. Thanks.

If you can't stand the language and would like to tell people, try using a different tone of saying such. Direct cannot always be the best solution and isn't always accepted by everybody, keep that in mind.

You can't even begin to properly convey a tone over the internet. This is how it has been and this is how it will always be. What do you propose I do? I am not a master of the subtle arts. I feel that I am incapable of not being being blunt or direct. Perhaps if someone were to teach me I could appear less antagonizing?

 

[Arld]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

You can't even begin to properly convey a tone over the internet. This is how it has been and this is how it will always be. What do you propose I do? I am not a master of the subtle arts. I feel that I am incapable of not being being blunt or direct. Perhaps if someone were to teach me I could appear less antagonizing?

That is true, it cannot be denied. However, there is the possibility to inform users that you don't mean any harm or offence (hence, 'no offence') when you notice yourself that your message(s) might offend one another.

 

[D3m190d]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I feel that I am incapable of not being being blunt or direct. Perhaps if someone were to teach me I could appear less antagonizing?

^ This, indeed. Everyone talks differently, and apparently, your way of bringing arguments into a discussion involves using more offending words. So, yes, someone may be need to teach you how to learn to talk in a way to isn't -however unintentionally?- offending.

Moreover, ignorance is never accepted. White Howler quoted what you, he and uhm, another person (Sorry, forgot) talked about life on other planets. Apparently, you said something along the lines of ''I'm right and you're wrong''. Of course, I wasn't there, so, for me, this is unreliable.
Anyway, while ignorance is disliked, you''e not the only person who may have that. A lot of people can be ignorant, but may be less offensive in saying so.
(Ehum, ZJ -actually admitting he's ignorant- saying that death metal solely consists of a-melodic ''HUUURGH, GGGRRHHHH'' stuff. Furthermore, though, I accept he has another taste in music... Just not the taste. xD)

I hope I didn't offend anyone in any way. Just trying to contribute. =|

 

[White_Howler]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

^ This, indeed. Everyone talks differently, and apparently, your way of bringing arguments into a discussion involves using more offending words. So, yes, someone may be need to teach you how to learn to talk in a way to isn't -however unintentionally?- offending.

Moreover, ignorance is never accepted. White Howler quoted what you, he and uhm, another person (Sorry, forgot) talked about life on other planets. Apparently, you said something along the lines of ''I'm right and you're wrong''. Of course, I wasn't there, so, for me, this is unreliable.
Anyway, while ignorance is disliked, you''e not the only person who may have that. A lot of people can be ignorant, but may be less offensive in saying so.
(Ehum, ZJ -actually admitting he's ignorant- saying that death metal solely consists of a-melodic ''HUUURGH, GGGRRHHHH'' stuff. Furthermore, though, I accept he has another taste in music... Just not the taste. xD)

I hope I didn't offend anyone in any way. Just trying to contribute. =|

I wish I could remember exactly what he said. But I do remember him continuously saying "you're wrong'. Ad we continuously asked why we were wrong, to no avail.

Was just a very one-sided argument as we had the better argument so he ran from it by leaving chat after saying: I don't need to listen to a bunch of hippies.

Telling someone they are wrong just because you don't believe them is silly. As it's quite hypocritical to do that then turn around and say that what you have to say is the right thing. It's typical "I'm right you're wrong" mentality and nobody is ALWAYS right.

 

[Angel]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I obviously can't report someone for being annoying either so what do you do in a situation like that?

Well, if someone is persistently being a nuisance, in your eyes, then ignore and block are your best friends. Ok, so they're not ideal if you end up ignoring about 30 people at once, but it does stop them from sending you messages, VM's and other crap if you block them.

However, if someone is actively pursuing you around the threads, regardless of what you post, and ripping everything you say apart then report them because that is blatant harassment and is not acceptable.

The phrase is overused but still applicable: Do Not Feed The Trolls. Most people want the last word on the internet because in real life, no one would give them the time of day. Be the bigger and better man and let them make fools out of themselves without your help.

Honestly? If the staff said half the things they REALLY wanted to say to people from time to time, we'd have to ban ourselves. It's about picking your battles - most people can see someone being petty and awkward without you needing to defend yourself. Some people just like the reaction they get - and then enjoy seeing you get beaten down when provoked. Those people don't last very long, though

 

[ssjcb1186]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I didn't create this thread so people would throw me a pity party. It was mostly to explain my disgust with the way things work around here. There is nothing against the rules that says I can't argue with someone and if it goes off-topic, that seems to be just fine because many people do it yet they're never given so much as a slap on the wrist.

That's a double standard and it's extremely irritating especially since it seems to happen all the time (not just here mind you).

Anyways, don't feel bad, don't feel sorry, don't feel anything. It's more of me coming and going as I please, just not as often.



It's not me overreacting. Believe me, had I been upset or angry my first post would contain excessive swearing and me just ****ing in everyone's Cheerios.

When have I ever acted anything but mature? There may be an exception or two but you show me one person on these forums that has been absolutely 100% mature all the time and I'll show you a monkey flying on a banana doing cartwheels.

Umm...the problem here is that you play the victim when you're the perpetrator. Everyone else is wrong and you're right. Everyone's attacking you when they don't even think of you or it's to a group of people. Everyone's stupid and you're brilliant.

Like someone said and what I've said in a post before: "If you think everyone is wrong, and everyone else thinks you're wrong, then you're the one who's wrong and needs to change." However, how can you tell someone they're wrong when they always think they're right? You can't.

Maybe when you're 30 and alone, or when someone punches you in the face and you bash your head against a table as hard as you've bashed everyone here and you realize you're a terrible person...there's nothing we can do.

So go ahead and leave and let there be peace on these forums. Then, occasionally, return to create a little more drama and then leave with a victimized thread like this one.

Your words are harsh and accusing and insulting. That's not an opinion, that's being mean. But I can't say you're wrong because you think you're always right and that you're always going to be in the right...so there's nothing I can say that tells you otherwise.

If you ever do change...awesome. Do I expect it? Not anytime soon. And as mean and rude as this post is, don't think you haven't done worse (even though you don't think you have :/).

 

[DarkONI]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

This is a monument to all your sins, people.

 

[El Mosqueton]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

This is a monument to all your sins, people.

OMFG IT'S THE MOTHER****IN' GRAVEMIND

 

[ssjcb1186]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

Yes... I get that more times than I care to. I do my best to make my posts as intelligent as possible and I do my best to avoid using words that could provoke someone but there are times when my patience wears thin and the person just HAS to continue on. If I could tell them to stop and get them to stop, so many unnecessary conflicts would have been avoided but this isn't the case.

I obviously can't report someone for being annoying either so what do you do in a situation like that?

Also, that last bit made me laugh. Thanks.



You can't even begin to properly convey a tone over the internet. This is how it has been and this is how it will always be. What do you propose I do? I am not a master of the subtle arts. I feel that I am incapable of not being being blunt or direct. Perhaps if someone were to teach me I could appear less antagonizing?

That is true, it cannot be denied. However, there is the possibility to inform users that you don't mean any harm or offense (hence, 'no offense') when you notice yourself that your message(s) might offend one another.

You just can't speak in a respectable way. Your words are accusing and harsh and unnecessary. I really don't think there's any way to "teach" you how to write anything because what you want to say will ultimately come through and everyone will be offended. And like Angel said, when they see you post something, that antagonistic tone will automatically take place. It's pretty much all your fault for being "hated" here and it's up to you to own up to it. But that can't happen until you understand that you're wrong and confess your faults. But you seem narcissistic and can't seem to do that. But I'm not going to label you with a Psychological Abnormality like that, because mean. So, Just Kidding XD.

 

[DarkONI]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

OMFG IT'S THE MOTHER****IN' GRAVEMIND

I wasn't trying to make a lame reference, Tyrant. All I can understand from this thread is either people that should learn to put their heads in cold water or learn how to ignore posts, people and things that they find unpleasant.

The fact that people won't stop talking about this subject is ridiculous on every way. Can't you guys understand how to ignore and just live with it? Can't you use your brains a little and understand that whatever you do won't change anything because you are on the internet?

You might feel a freedom on doing anything on the internet, but that doesn't mean you are different from what you are as a person.

ONI out.

 

[El Mosqueton]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I wasn't trying to make a lame reference, Tyrant. All I can understand from this thread is either people that should learn to put their heads in cold water or learn how to ignore posts, people and things that they find unpleasant.

The fact that people won't stop talking about this subject is ridiculous on every way. Can't you guys understand how to ignore and just live with it? Can't you use your brains a little and understand that whatever you do won't change anything because you are on the internet?

You might feel a freedom on doing anything on the internet, but that doesn't mean you are different from what you are as a person.

ONI out.

OMFG IT'S THE MOTHER****IN' COMMON SENSE

 

[Sephiroxas]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I can't see any of Grims Posts...Because he's on my ignore list.

Why post here you say? :O Well because I believe I deserve to put in my two cents, don't I? which are this rant that follows:

When I first joined the forum I made a thread about about something fable related, This Member, (Known as Fable Freak ) Came into my thread, and upset me in some way. We had our dissagreements, but you know what? In the end, we became friends and I found him extremely awesome :thumbsup:. I was hoping that might happen with you. But you just seem..so on the defensive all the time...like nothing anyone says bothers you, that you don't care what they have to say either. You sometimes say rude things, and I usually let that pass, because you know what? It's the internet, and I can bare it. ...but sometimes you just ---->>>seem so...arrogant..hardheaded..sexist...and uncaring...I don't know why that is, and I don't know why your text emits that sort of energy, but it does. :noexpression:

I already suggested you use smileys to try and convey better what you mean and such, but you dismissed that suggestion with "that didn't work either" Which I don't know why, we pretty much have enough smileys to convey any feelings you might have..^_^ You can even use my Photobucket here: SMILEYS

What I'm trying to say is. Yeah, it kind of was nice having you gone. But sometimes you have some Intelligent contributions to the threads. If you can just TRY to figure out what it is that's making everyone on the forum upset, and change it a little, I'm sure everything could work out fine.

But we're a small little family of a fabley forum here, and you might not take the time out of your life to change yourself for us. But..either way.. We'll see what happens. ^_^

(I'm sure you're not ganna care about ANYTHING I just said. But I'm still giving it a try....

)

 

[droded]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

I wish I could help, but everything I say is ignored anyway.

I don't care whether or not you leave, just don't think I've attacked or berated you in any way. Everything I've said has been either in the defence of others or to try and help you better understand what people find offensive about your posts.
If trying to help is offensive to you, then please accept my sincere apologies.

 

[GrimWhim]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

First of all, let me just say that none of you have the right to complain about my behavior. If you honestly believe you're innocent and never guilty of being arrogant, being an asshole, being hardheaded and so on and so forth then all I can say is, is that you're extremely ignorant.

Yes, maybe it seems like I'm guilty of these more often than the average person but that's because I'm NOT the average person. I'm blunt and I speak the truth (or what I believe to be the truth) and this upsets people. Does the truth hurt? Yes it does and I'm sure we all know that.

However, I've done my very best to conform and be a good guy but why should I be the only one to change? It's not like any of you are nearly as pleasant as you make yourselves out to be. You guys are just as argumentative as me and some of you are just as forward as I am.

I am who I am and while that's not necessarily a good thing, I do try to change the parts of me that are less-than-pleasant.

But some of you need to change just as much as I do, if not more so. I can't have an argument by myself, now can I? No. I need someone else to help fuel the flames but does anyone look at that person? Not nearly as often as they should.

I'm entitled to my opinions regardless of how harsh they may seem just as everyone else is too. Does that mean you're required to read them? Not at all. Does that mean you should get all ****y and start a fight over it? No.

So again, tell me why I'm constantly being crucified when so many of you do exactly what I do? Perhaps not in the same words or the same manner but it's close enough.

By the way, to the person who said I constantly play the victim; get over yourself. Do you honestly think because I defend myself when people start getting personal that I'm trying to play myself off as the victim? What if I AM the victim? Huh? Please, keep your ignorant remarks out of my thread.

Now that I've said all that, I feel it's also necessary to quote my first page just to show you all precisely what you're guilty of and the severe lack of respect I've been given thus far.

but I will say that this isn't a discussion thread

And here of course is my prediction stating what would happen in several posts (which have happened).

I did my best to remain calm and respectful of others but how can I stay that when I'm not granted the same courtesy? Nevertheless, I am not in the least bit surprised.

Of course, my point will be further proven by the future posts that will inevitably riddle this thread with both subtle and not-so-subtle insults.

Now, I'm sure that this is post will come off as rather unsavory for many of you. Why? Because it was born out of frustration and some anger and you should be able to figure out why from what has been said above (in my post).

 

[Tsuyu]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

Sigh, once again with the truth part Grim? It isn't as much about what you say as how you say it. How is that so hard to understand? You almost always come off as major douche-bag whenever you write one of your "argumentative" or "truthful" replies.

 

[DarkONI]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

Where mature, intelligent people use the forum's ignore function, you press something in the brashest of ways and, believe me, it's not good to do that. It's a respect thing. You spit on everyone who you disagree with and waltz around here as if everyone's supposed to kiss your ass and lick your boots. I enjoy the company of an exceedingly small group of people here, but I respect even those that I don't like.

 

[Arseface]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

First of all, let me just say that none of you have the right to complain about my behavior.

You don't have the right to complain about us complaining about your behaviour.

If you honestly believe you're innocent and never guilty of being arrogant, being an asshole, being hardheaded and so on and so forth then all I can say is, is that you're extremely ignorant.

Yes, we're all ignorant, and you're the only one who knows how people behave.

Just because lots of people act a certain way, doesn't justify it.

Yes, maybe it seems like I'm guilty of these more often than the average person but that's because I'm NOT the average person. I'm blunt and I speak the truth (or what I believe to be the truth) and this upsets people. Does the truth hurt? Yes it does and I'm sure we all know that.

Do you have any idea how many stubborn, arrogant, absolute ****s just say that it's because the they "speak their minds", and think it makes them special?

However, I've done my very best to conform and be a good guy but why should I be the only one to change? It's not like any of you are nearly as pleasant as you make yourselves out to be. You guys are just as argumentative as me and some of you are just as forward as I am.

But it's also generally accepted between members who have known each other for some time that we mean no offense. Think of it from our point of view: A new member comes here (well done for getting a thousand posts in a month, btw), and starts saying a lot borderline offensive comments, and some very offensive comments. Why should we not assume that you're a troll? Of course, once you've been here as long as say, FableFreak, and have proven that you do enjoy the community and have built up a rapport with the members here, I'm sure things would be different.

 

[ssjcb1186]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

First of all, let me just say that none of you have the right to complain about my behavior. If you honestly believe you're innocent and never guilty of being arrogant, being an asshole, being hardheaded and so on and so forth then all I can say is, is that you're extremely ignorant.

What droded said. It's only arrogant when people like you say "this is the truth" and not understand that it's an opinion...that's arrogance right there. "Truth" is an elusive term and can't be blatantly stated as you have done.

Yes, maybe it seems like I'm guilty of these more often than the average person but that's because I'm NOT the average person. I'm blunt and I speak the truth (or what I believe to be the truth) and this upsets people. Does the truth hurt? Yes it does and I'm sure we all know that.

It doesn't matter if you're "not an average person." Technically none of us are, myself probably more than others. Does that mean I go around saying everyone is wrong and creating conflict whenever I can because "I have an opinion/know the truth and I'm allowed to express it"? Of course I can. Would I do it the fashion you have done countless times? Absolutely not because I have respect for other people and their opinions.

And the truth doesn't hurt unless you say it in a way to you want it to hurt people.

However, I've done my very best to conform and be a good guy but why should I be the only one to change? It's not like any of you are nearly as pleasant as you make yourselves out to be. You guys are just as argumentative as me and some of you are just as forward as I am.

You've done nothing to conform...
And don't say everyone's just as argumentative as you are, that's arrogant.

I am who I am and while that's not necessarily a good thing, I do try to change the parts of me that are less-than-pleasant.

No, you don't. You are who you are and nobody likes it. Everyone in a community can't be wrong and you're the only one who's right. That's arrogant and foolish.

But some of you need to change just as much as I do, if not more so. I can't have an argument by myself, now can I? No. I need someone else to help fuel the flames but does anyone look at that person? Not nearly as often as they should.

No, we clearly don't need to because we can forgive each other and move on. You seem incapable of doing that.
And clearly "to help fuel the flames" isn't a very good phrase to use here. We try to be as respectful and understanding as we can and flames kind of defeat the purpose of this. And I know I'm going into the figurative meaning, but reading between the lines helps me understand your personality and if this is your goal here, this clearly isn't the place for you. And we don't need someone like that here.

I'm entitled to my opinions regardless of how harsh they may seem just as everyone else is too. Does that mean you're required to read them? Not at all. Does that mean you should get all ****y and start a fight over it? No.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. But don't expect a pat on the back when you say it in a harsh manner that is meant to offend others. And it's also arrogant to believe that people just won't read your posts unless they have you ignored. Human curiosity is a curious things

So again, tell me why I'm constantly being crucified when so many of you do exactly what I do? Perhaps not in the same words or the same manner but it's close enough.

That's exactly what you do. You don't state your side in the same manner, nor do you listen to the other side at all.

By the way, to the person who said I constantly play the victim; get over yourself. Do you honestly think because I defend myself when people start getting personal that I'm trying to play myself off as the victim? What if I AM the victim? Huh? Please, keep your ignorant remarks out of my thread.

That would be me . And you're playing the victim right now and with good reason. And I'm sooooooo over myself right now that I could be high :lol:. You're not the victim, you're the instigator and everyone is pointing out to you and attacking the attacker...ironic isn't it?

Now that I've said all that, I feel it's also necessary to quote my first page just to show you all precisely what you're guilty of and the severe lack of respect I've been given thus far.

You get what you give and you've given absolutely zero respect to anyone here, Victim. That's what I'm going to call you from now on...Victim...that has a nice ring to it .

And here of course is my prediction stating what would happen in several posts (which have happened).

Clearly it happened because even you realize that very few people, if any, like you.

Now, I'm sure that this is post will come off as rather unsavory for many of you. Why? Because it was born out of frustration and some anger and you should be able to figure out why from what has been said above (in my post).

It did. And that is because this is how you normally conduct yourself here on these forums. But it's our fault that you behave this way? We only give what we get, and that's human nature. Stop being the victim Victim and we'll be all set.

Stop saying everyone is wrong because it's pretty unanimous that you're wrong. It's annoying that you come here just to say that we're all wrong and look like an idiot and then we all laugh at you and come back with educated retorts. If you can't see your own wrong-doings then please, just leave. It's not our responsibility to fix you, that's your job. Don't tell us to tell you what you've done wrong because we've said it a million times and you just keep saying "no, you're wrong, I don't know what you're talking about."

God, you're such a whiner -_-

 

[Noctus]

Re: Temporary hiatus.

"standard applied unfairly: a principle, rule, or expectation that is applied unfairly to different groups, one group usually being condemned for the slightest offense while the other is treated far more leniently".

Example: It's okay for others to insult me but should I retaliate or say something that is neither rule-breaking nor abhorrently offensive, I am the only one guilty.

"somebody feigning high principles: somebody who pretends to have admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings but behaves otherwise".

Example: In my "Movie Suggestions" thread I was suspended for supposedly being disrespectful of another member but the moderator who suspended me was also extremely disrespectful in his post.

You didn't get suspended for explicitely breaking the rules. You got a suspension for being a **** with an attitude.