Why Marijuana is illegal

[Zarkes]

Why Marijuana is illegal

Why is this drug so illegal when so many more harmful drugs are given to our children to make them just sit still? The only reason pot is harmful FACT Smoking one jiont is like smoking 12 cigarrettes. Do you know how many other ways to get high are out there now? Heres a link incase I embedded it wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LnEQFgUL4&feature=related

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The beginning explains why and the end is more philosophical ugh you can get what you want from that.

Here is my point, Lewk at the propaganda commercials for alcohol and other drugs the people are crashing cars an killing people what is the stoner kid doing? He's sitting on his couch not working. What a disgusting average teenager(minus the slit wrists)

 

[Arseface]

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I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you for or against the legalisation of Cannabis?

 

[Tiamatria]

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Cannabis bakes your brain. It kills brain cells, which can lead to being a moron.

 

[TheJJMax]

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Marijuana is illegal for a reason, you know.

 

[Arseface]

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Cannabis bakes your brain. It kills brain cells, which can lead to being a moron.

Marijuana is illegal for a reason, you know.

I guess you guys have never had a toke then?

All the "Drugs are bad" videos your school shows you are incredibly biased - because they have to be according to law. Cannabis has surrounded me my whole life (well, not really. My parents and almost all my friends smoke it recreationally). What I'm saying is that it's no stranger to me.

Cannabis is easily less dangerous than alcohol and cigarettes, yet is the only illegal one of the trio. It is also the only one with a credible use. There is a capacity for humans to abuse everything, and the negative effects of Cannabis use come from only that. What about the alcoholics? The lung cancer patients? What about the heart conditions (and related issues, such as obesity) caused by long term food abuse? Open your eyes.

 

[Tiamatria]

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So? Albeit it is the only one with a credible use, you can blame people abusing the **** for the reason it's illegal.

Cannabis contains trace amounts of PCP, a hallucinagenic. Which is enough to make you a danger to yourself and people around you. Example, you're as high as a kite and you're driving. Put the pieces together.

 

[Arseface]

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So? Albeit it is the only one with a credible use, you can blame people abusing the **** for the reason it's illegal.

Cannabis contains trace amounts of PCP, a hallucinagenic. Which is enough to make you a danger to yourself and people around you. Example, you're as high as a kite and you're driving. Put the pieces together.

You have to be able to trust people not to do that - it's exactly the same with alcohol, which is legal.

Besides, have you ever had a toke?

 

[Tiamatria]

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No, I choose not to follow the downward spiral of the drug world. I just lost my best friend of six years to a person who I thought was my friend, and was for a few months, when my former best friend hadn't even know this person for three weeks. The reason I lost my best friend? "Hey man, want some free pot and vodka?"

And the law can't just say 'oh, we trust the general American populus to not abuse drugs, only 20% of our population has traces of a damn brain, we'll be JUST fine.'

EDIT- Alcohol isn't being smuggled in by illegal immigration every year.

 

[Arseface]

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No, I choose not to follow the downward spiral of the drug world. I just lost my best friend of six years to a person who I thought was my friend, and was for a few months, when my former best friend hadn't even know this person for three weeks. The reason I lost my best friend? "Hey man, want some free pot and vodka?"

Thats a sad story, but you can't blame the ganja. Blame the guy who bribed your friend

And you can't exactly speak of the effects of pot without having experienced them. Do you go around talking about the pain of childbirth aswell?

And the law can't just say 'oh, we trust the general American populus to not abuse drugs, only 20% of our population has traces of a damn brain, we'll be JUST fine.'

But it already DOES. Alcohol and cigarettes, again, being the standout examples.

EDIT- Alcohol isn't being smuggled in by illegal immigration every year.

It wouldn't need to be smuggled if it was legal. I'm sure that if alcohol was illegal, it would be smuggled in illegally to.

 

[Tiamatria]

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Beer and smokes don't make you hallucinate. Hallucinagenics are illegal, raw PCP is illegal, therefore anything that contains PCP should be illegal, correct?

 

[Arseface]

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Beer and smokes don't make you hallucinate. Hallucinagenics are illegal, raw PCP is illegal, therefore anything that contains PCP should be illegal, correct?

Not to my thinking. What's wrong with having a bit of an escape? Weed's pretty good for that.

Beer and smokes impair your health- and beer impairs you brain - way more than grass.

 

[Arseface]

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I'm very careful on these subjects. I am, or was anyway, a chemical dependency counselor. I know what pot does and I know what it doesn't do. I will admit that the majority of the problems caused by pot is related to legal issues, but there are other problems as well. As Arseface mentioned, you would have to trust people to use it responsibly.They are a bit biased, and the 1 joint = 12 cigarettes thing is completely wrong. I think they would do far better if they were just honest. Educating children should take priority over trying to get them to not use drugs. The ones who will use pot will use pot. The ones who won't use pot won't use pot. The ones who are on the fence, or might not want to but do it for whatever reasons, peer pressure or whatever, those are the ones who need the education the most. It then becomes an informed decision and it's up to them to decide what they feel is right.

Unless they get busted because that can ruin someone's life, going back to most of the problems being the legal matters involved.We've tried prohibition. Didn't work. It made for a very profitable business in producing, distributing and selling alcohol. The government didn't get any taxes from it and crime skyrocketed.

As for how I feel on this overall, well hell, I think one extreme or the other is necessary to deal with it. I'll get criticized but so be it, here it goes.

Option A: Kill everyone who has any involvement with illegal drugs. Just shoot them on the spot. I can't remember which one, but in South America there is a country that does this with people who drink and drive. They pull them over, drag them out of the car and deal with it. This has worked, they'll only do this once, maybe twice each year, if even at all. Another added bonus is that there are no repeat offenders.

Option B: Legalize it completely. Dedicated task forces can be redistributed to reinforce other sections of law enforcement. It can be produced and sold commercially ensuring quality (as in, no PCP) and taxes can be applied. Each package will be labeled with "smoke responsibly". You get the idea.

Anywhere in between, fiscally speaking, is a wasted effort. You have the costs of police and other law enforcement, courts, lawyers, money going to cartels, it's very expensive. It ruins lives. And yes, it can be dangerous if used irresponsibly, say by pregnant women or by thirteen year olds or by people who've had a bit too much and decided that they want to go for a drive through a park full of children.

Amen bruddah.

 

[Tiamatria]

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Actually, weed also impairs your brain. I've seen quite a few people get dumber over time using it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis

 

[cheezMcNASTY]

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i'd also like to point out, driving under the influence of anything is stupid. back on topic

i live in a township where the stoners are the ones working. all of the alcoholics are single obese men who you wouldn't enjoy talking to in the least. i whole-heartedly believe that alcohol is the most harmful of all legal substances (unless you make something yourself...).

Cannabis contains trace amounts of PCP, a hallucinagenic. Which is enough to make you a danger to yourself and people around you.

i agree, PCP is a serious drug. but, weed is NOT PCP. they are commonly mixed together by some of the more hardcore stoners. if weed in it's natural form were as dangerous as PCP

A) there would be no need to mix in the first place.
B) weed would be treated by the law much more seriously in many of the states in the US, Jamaica, and Amsterdam.

most of the facts your saying sound like they were taken by a weed video shown in school. i'd recommend you at least watch a stoner documentary, or the family guy episode "happy 420" or something before blaming a tragic accident on a lifestyle choice :hmm:

 

[Arseface]

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Actually, weed also impairs your brain. I've seen quite a few people get dumber over time using it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis

Actually, if you'd read what I wrote properly, I said

beer impairs you brain - way more than grass.

More being the operative word, meaning that I am not saying weed doesn't. If it didn't, there'd be no use for it.

And besides, alot of the most intelligent people I know are regular tokers.

most of the facts your saying sound like they were taken by a weed video shown in school. i'd recommend you at least watch a stoner documentary, or the family guy episode "happy 420" or something before blaming a tragic accident on a lifestyle choice :hmm:

I was looking that episode up before to try and find out who Brian said was the leading exponent in illegalising weed - because of his heavy investment in the timber industry, which was threatened to be out competed by the hemp industry. Isn't that profiteering? Something which is illegal aswell...

 

[Wonderfoole WINO]

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Weed messes you up/ hurts you just as well as many legal things. Thus it should be legal, or else alcohol and ciggarets should be illeagal too. Its a double standard when you think about it.

Besides, the fact that its illegal does not stop people from using it. Its everywhere, you just gotta know where to look. I think if they made it legal, it would make things simpler. No more wasted police hours, so they can go deal with bigger issues. Smuggling will stop, as there is no need to smuggle a legal substance.

People that want to smoke weed are going to smoke weed. People that dont wont. The law does not change this, it just complicates things. Besides, weed is calming. I would mutch rather be with someone who is high, than someone who is drunk. You dont hear storys about people getting high and beating the hell out of their wife with a steel bat, do you?

And befor you ask, I have never smoked weed in my entire life. I still support it being legal though. Do I not smoke it because its illegal? No. I don't smoke it because I have no desire to. I know where I could get weed right now if I wanted to. I don't.

The point that Im trying to make is, just because something is the law, does not make it right. People should have the freedom to do whatever they please, so long as they do not endanger or take away the rights of others.

 

[Zarkes]

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Amen bruddah.

DIdo

Actually, weed also impairs your brain. I've seen quite a few people get dumber over time using it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis

...You mean more dumb?

Weed messes you up/ hurts you just as well as many legal things. Thus it should be legal, or else alcohol and ciggarets should be illeagal too. Its a double standard when you think about it.

Besides, the fact that its illegal does not stop people from using it. Its everywhere, you just gotta know where to look. I think if they made it legal, it would make things simpler. No more wasted police hours, so they can go deal with bigger issues. Smuggling will stop, as there is no need to smuggle a legal substance.

People that want to smoke weed are going to smoke weed. People that dont wont. The law does not change this, it just complicates things. Besides, weed is calming. I would mutch rather be with someone who is high, than someone who is drunk. You dont hear storys about people getting high and beating the hell out of their wife with a steel bat, do you?

And befor you ask, I have never smoked weed in my entire life. I still support it being legal though. Do I not smoke it because its illegal? No. I don't smoke it because I have no desire to. I know where I could get weed right now if I wanted to. I don't.

The point that Im trying to make is, just because something is the law, does not make it right. People should have the freedom to do whatever they please, so long as they do not endanger or take away the rights of others.

Wow this topic is hot lots of detailed posts. Excellent Griffin

 

[TRA Rotid]

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Smuggling will stop, as there is no need to smuggle a legal substance.

Smuggling will not stop. People still smuggle cigarettes and alcohol (tax-free, rubbish quality.

Legalizing cannabis would make it so much easier for idiots to get a hold of it so I still say "no". Why would we want another drug on the market?

 

[Wonderfoole WINO]

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In other words, money is the strongest drug out there. And being anti-drug gets you more. And he who has the most money makes the rules.

Praise be to Dahla!

 

[Arseface]

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Yes. Not that specifically, but there are plenty of domestic cases where weed is involved. People are on both sides with this one, some say that weed is responsible while others say it's unrelated.

I say it's a co-factor and that's where responsibility comes in.

I would think that in those cases where weed is involved, it plays an entirely different role to alcohol.

Note for those interested:

Spoiler

I quit my job because I was just a day away from getting fired for telling people my views on this very matter. By quitting, I was allowed to finish my open cases.
The fact is that my city gets a lot of state and federal funding to fight drug use and distribution, and they get a huge sum of money to provide a drug-free program at the local schools. And they get another duffel bag full of cash to have city-appointed specialists say that weed kills. And me saying that the biggest problem with marijuana is the legal matters and that most of the educational workshops are rubbish was a problem.

I am state-accredited and licensed, I do know what I'm talking about and my learning material didn't come off of Wikipedia. To think that I would lose a job for telling the truth as told to me by records and statistics gathered by the same state that licensed me is, well sadly that is expected where I live. I say this to emphasize the fact that these are views that I stand by and won't compromise, even for a paycheck.

You are not building a strong case for yourself.

That really sucks man. It's a shame that the little people get stepped on so that the big ones can get bigger.

Smuggling will not stop. People still smuggle cigarettes and alcohol (tax-free, rubbish quality.

But you can't say that it wouldn't be reduced. There is crime associated with everything.

Legalizing cannabis would make it so much easier for idiots to get a hold of it so I still say "no". Why would we want another drug on the market?

Reality check - it's already on the market. It is not controlled however, which would improve the quality and make it safer.