Why Peter Molyneux Thinks Other RPG Games Are ****

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Why Peter Molyneux Thinks Other RPG Games Are ****

Recently, Kikizo sat down for a hands on demo of Fable 2 and a chat with Peter Molyneux about some much talked about features of the upcoming game. The conversation focused on why most other RPG games all suck according to him, the much touted combat system, death and the dog, as usual.

"Stupidly, the ambition on this thing is I want you to measure this against any fighting game," he told Kikizo in an exclusive chat. "It's amazing for a role playing game, because most role playing games are ****! Oblivion was a great game, but the combat was rubbish; we all talked about it being rubbish. So imagine you had a great role-playing game and really, really good combat system."

"And another thing we've got is counter moves, for much more experienced players," says Molyneux. "If they're really good they can wait for an attack and counter it, flip him around, and do a killing blow. That is much more skill based, and again you'll get double the experience. Another advanced attack is to use the environment; you can actually break someone's neck on some railing during combat. It could be a spike on a fence or a solid brick wall, and you'll get increased experience for that as well."

To read the full story, head here: Fable 2 Hands-On & Molyneux Interview

 

[Tsuyu]

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-"It's amazing for a role playing game, because most role playing games are ****!"

Hehehe.
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[Zingo]

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Thats pretty brave... this is the kind of things that make the fanboys go "waaaagh" and rant...

 

[Hexadecimal]

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Thats pretty brave... this is the kind of things that make the fanboys go "waaaagh" and rant...

what fanboys?

and P.M. is known for shooting his mouth off... that's what he does... don't bother acting surprised :lol:

 

[Zingo]

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what fanboys?

and P.M. is known for shooting his mouth off... that's what he does... don't bother acting surprised :lol:

The fanboys of other RPG's

And im not surprised actually, im just whining on him for that kind of attitude. Its not good to throw **** on other games, even if you're Molyenoux...

 

[Hexadecimal]

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The fanboys of other RPG's

well, I imagine P.M. has got about as much patience for fanboys as I do :hmm:
... if those hopped up fanatics of the commercial age would take the time to whip their heads out of their own asses they'd remember things like first off, a competitive edge is a good thing in a gaming developer cause it keeps them on their toes, second, a super confident attitude like Peter Molyneux displays can help move games if you sell it right, and finally freedom of speech applies to everyone, not just people who agree with them and their goofball attitude...
fanboys can go suck it

And im not surprised actually, im just whining on him for that kind of attitude. Its not good to throw **** on other games, even if you're Molyenoux...

I don't think he's throwing **** on other games so much as stating his opinion, and having been in the business for this much time, his opinion isn't exactly worthless either, it has real merit...
Oblivion's combat system was pretty **** compared to action and FPS games... what do you want? That's a major area that he feels the RPG genre could be improving on and he's explaining why he feels Fable 2 is the one that's going to do it... agree with him or not, he does make some valid points here...

 

[Angel]

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And besides, even if his claims and opinions do wind other people up, you can bet the sale of the game will skyrocket just so people can either play it and prove him right or play it and prove him wrong. If you don't believe wholeheartedly in the product you are selling, then why bother selling it at all?

 

[Dark Drakan]

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Interesting article, i must admit there are a lot of great RPG's with bad combat systems. I for one couldnt stand Morrowinds combat and it ruined the game for me, but i actually liked Oblivions as it was a huge step forward. He does make some good points however. +rep

 

[Rhadiel]

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god...I hated Morrowinds combats systems...the fighting was nearly exactly the same as runescape

 

[Dark Drakan]

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god...I hated Morrowinds combats systems...the fighting was nearly exactly the same as runescape

Just annoyed me how you had the sword, you swung the sword, you saw it connect with the other character and yet it said 'Missed'!

 

[Seigfreid]

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In Morrowind, I could never freakin tell if I hit that damn rat or not, all I had was to wait and see if it died.

I praise Molyneux once more! He's got courage, and a bit of an ego, which is good becuase that's what can make accomplishments. And I agree with him, most other RPGs can be ****, especially the damn cookie-cutter japanese RPGs. I know some like the classic RPG feel but its time to step up and bring more life into the game. No more turn-based crap for me! Well...except maybe Final Fantasy, but that's it!

 

[Shadow Knight]

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"It's amazing for a role playing game, because most role playing games are ****!"

What a brave man now he will endure Final Fantasy fans wrath :lol:
(I'm not one of them )

In Morrowind, I could never freakin tell if I hit that damn rat or not, all I had was to wait and see if it died.

Try Morrowwind GotY edition lol

 

[Zingo]

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agree with him or not, he does make some valid points here...

Yes he does, but at the same the he makes generalizations(?) and those suck. Oblivion had a crappy combat system sure. But saying that all RPG's are **** compared to Fable is a negative generealization which wont give him any more sold copies of the game. What Im trying to say is that generalization is bad. Not all RPG's are ****. Fable had some stuff I didnt like. Most games have stuff I dont like. But making a statement like this is stupid, even if people doesnt take it seriously. Molyenoux has made statements like this before, and im ok with it, but this is the far most idiotic one.

 

[RuneMaster]

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Im torn on this one. I love alot of RPGs and consider it the best genre in the gaming world. However, Pete is right in saying that alot of the combat is. . .lacking. I love turn based RPGs, but there really isnt much to them, except mabey customization and such. I thought Star Ocean 3 had great gameplay, but Im rather easy to impress.

 

[HodgePodge]

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I know one good rpg that has an awesome combat system. Kotor

 

[Tsuyu]

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Nothing beats good old turn/round based DnD à la Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale.

 

[Zingo]

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Nothing beats good old turn/round based DnD à la Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale.

Dont forget to meantion Nwn... thats a good game!

 

[Frostmourne]

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Well, he's right. Oblivion's combat system was crap. You can say all you want about it, but it lacked a solid combat system.

Hate to break it to some of you, but I'm not the fan of turn-based. But that's just me :lol:

 

[Dark Drakan]

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I know one good rpg that has an awesome combat system. Kotor

That was turn based and really well done, you actually forgot that it was.

Well, he's right. Oblivion's combat system was crap. You can say all you want about it, but it lacked a solid combat system.

Hate to break it to some of you, but I'm not the fan of turn-based. But that's just me :lol:

I liked Oblivions combat and it was first game i felt like i was involved with the combat up close and personal and i disliked Fable's hack and slash and button bash style.

 

[Seigfreid]

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Agreed, I thought Oblivion's was pretty smooth and fairly easy. I don't know what you people are expecting from a first-person action game but you can't expect a glorified combat system. In fact, it's pretty good for itself with the fact that you can do things like knock an opponent down or even disarm them. And if want to start on using the environment, think of the fact that you could use an enemies traps against them. Such as carrying(more like pulling) a log over a slope and when the enemy comes, drop it and let it roll.