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Well w/e, I'm done trying to have progressive chats, doesn't work in real life wouldn't work with a bunch of socialists either. This franchise is over and all you moderators bully away your fan base to dwindling numbers. I mean everyone always talks about trolls and stuff but you guys never give any helpful feedback, mostly just post moving gifs of random bullshit. Dark Drakan was always hella cool but I think he just has to be.

You guys aren't getting paid to moderate are you? either answer I would post a facepalm. I loved this forums, but not anymore, I want to stay and have fun and be apart of it but honestly you guys are kinda dicks sometimes. I always thought I was project ego's biggest fan, told me how to get into all those demon doors when I was a kid, I remember seeing this website recognized in the Fable 2 credits, I actually felt like they were telling me thank you, like we did it.

If everyone was cool with me like I am with you guys I'd stay but I can tell no one likes me.

Goodluck with all your endeavors, maybe I'll get back on if Fable 4 came out.
 

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"I wanted an answer, but the answer I got wasn't to my liking. Waaa! Waaa!"

I'm sorry, but that's how you're acting, man.

Nobody is bullying your or have it in for you. You asked a question, got several answers. Deal with it?
 

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Well w/e, I'm done trying to have progressive chats, doesn't work in real life wouldn't work with a bunch of socialists either. This franchise is over and all you moderators bully away your fan base to dwindling numbers. I mean everyone always talks about trolls and stuff but you guys never give any helpful feedback, mostly just post moving gifs of random bullshit. Dark Drakan was always hella cool but I think he just has to be.

You guys aren't getting paid to moderate are you? either answer I would post a facepalm. I loved this forums, but not anymore, I want to stay and have fun and be apart of it but honestly you guys are kinda dicks sometimes. I always thought I was project ego's biggest fan, told me how to get into all those demon doors when I was a kid, I remember seeing this website recognized in the Fable 2 credits, I actually felt like they were telling me thank you, like we did it.

If everyone was cool with me like I am with you guys I'd stay but I can tell no one likes me.

Goodluck with all your endeavors, maybe I'll get back on if Fable 4 came out.


Dude...

I.. what?

Now you're just being absolutely ridiculous, ragequitting won't solve anything. We did try to be helpful, but you ignored us and only cared for anyone who agreed with you. And no, we're not getting paid, this isn't some big stupid conspiracy against you. We just wanted you be more clear with what you have to say. We're dicks? Yeah, thanks for that. And just for the record, I actually do like you.. but with the way you're acting, I now have to put that in question.
 

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There's no need to leave just because people can't understand your posts, you just need to speak more plainly instead of metaphors and whatnot. Gikoku are cool and so is Tsuyu (maybe), as are the admins. Lets not walk out in a hissy fit now.

As when/if you come back you'll look the fool. And we don't want that, do we sir.
 

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If everyone was cool with me like I am with you guys I'd stay but I can tell no one likes me.


And what makes you think no one likes you?

As I see it, posts here are trying to help you with the problem you are facing.
For the record, I also sucked at conveying my thoughts, I learned, and now I'm quite a bit better at it. So no, I don't feel like you do, I used to, but not anymore.
 

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Ragequitting a forum is like running away from home. We know you'll be back and we know you're only doing it for attention.
 

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This is a prime example as to why drugs are bad.
 

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Before I respond to what this thread's devolved into...

I just want to jump in here and say that the bible does have tangible proof in fact. There's been a huge movement of archaeologists investigating its claims. The problem with the bible (as you would call it, "the old testament") is that it had hundreds to thousands of years of oral history which distorted the facts. Joshua's conquest, for example, is evidenced as taking place. The problem is that it wasn't nearly as successful as it was storied, it did not happen in the same time period as the bible would have you believe, and he didn't conquer quite as much as we would be led to believe.

On to the original topic at hand...
Zarkes, I don't doubt that your thoughts and whatnot are in the right place. I think I'm agreeing with a lot of people here when I say that something gets lost in the translation of your thoughts to text. You convolute your message with mountains of metaphors that are either far above my ability to comprehend... or they're simply articulated sloppily. The meat and potatoes of what I'm saying here is that if everyone is having trouble understanding what you're trying to get at, maybe the problem lies in how you're saying it and not everyone else. It's like you're hitting puberty and wondering why everything is shrinking when, in reality, you're just getting taller.

On to the current topic at hand...
Later bro.
 

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Using metaphors gets you as far away from 'to-the-point' as possible. If you want to be clear, be more literal.

Thy moon shineth upon the green hills of falling dreams, as a summerbreeze through the stairwell where I laid down and bled. Blood of anger? Of love? Or a light from long ago, which now cut through the icy surface of a heart in chains - your misery withering in a lake superstitions. But yes, trust is not the word, for I wil never be alone as the one to hold our breath.

That was me, talking about the drinking a glass of milk. If you're just not stupif, you would get it. But nooooo, you're gonna attack me on how vague that stuff was, which is totally misplaced because I get it.
 

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Using metaphors gets you as far away from 'to-the-point' as possible. If you want to be clear, be more literal.

Thy moon shineth upon the green hills of falling dreams, as a summerbreeze through the stairwell where I laid down and bled. Blood of anger? Of love? Or a light from long ago, which now cut through the icy surface of a heart in chains - your misery withering in a lake superstitions. But yes, trust is not the word, for I wil never be alone as the one to hold our breath.

That was me, talking about the drinking a glass of milk. If you're just not stupif, you would get it. But nooooo, you're gonna attack me on how vague that stuff was, which is totally misplaced because I get it.

I thought you were talking about drinking orange juice. Damn.
 

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Well w/e, I'm done trying to have progressive chats, doesn't work in real life wouldn't work with a bunch of socialists either. This franchise is over and all you moderators bully away your fan base to dwindling numbers. I mean everyone always talks about trolls and stuff but you guys never give any helpful feedback, mostly just post moving gifs of random bullshit. Dark Drakan was always hella cool but I think he just has to be.

You guys aren't getting paid to moderate are you? either answer I would post a facepalm. I loved this forums, but not anymore, I want to stay and have fun and be apart of it but honestly you guys are kinda dicks sometimes. I always thought I was project ego's biggest fan, told me how to get into all those demon doors when I was a kid, I remember seeing this website recognized in the Fable 2 credits, I actually felt like they were telling me thank you, like we did it.

If everyone was cool with me like I am with you guys I'd stay but I can tell no one likes me.

Goodluck with all your endeavors, maybe I'll get back on if Fable 4 came out.

No-one has bullied you, you wanted peoples opinions so they gave them to you. Just because they didnt agree with you doesnt mean they bullied you. Anyone who asks for my feedback always gets as helpful as I can give feedback, however I never join in on religious 'debates' or threads as I have no interest in anything to do with religion.

No-one is paid to be here, we are here because we want to be here and I dont spend everyday here like I have for 6 years for any other reason than this. Everyone has bad days and im sure you have had more good times than bad here and your better than the pity parade you are starting here.
 

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Let's break it down here, homes. I'll give you a different viewpoint on all your posts, then a shortened version of each that should achieve what you wanted. Keep in mind that I don't know you or your posting style, so consider it a fresh set of unbiased eyes.

Post 1:
I have this problem and I don't like it but would like some help. First though, I think whoever reads this will attack me anyway so what's the point.

I was elsewhere and making this crazy deep argument about religion. Nobody liked it and attacked me. These people suck.

Summation of what I said to them.

Random symbol with no bearing on the conversation...yet.

Using some clever word/spelling twists, I made my point but people didn't like it. They hated it. I won't give any evidence as to what they actually said so as to make my position the superior, enlightened one.

Now I'll switch to a different example that's just as convoluted and integrating random words that seem appropriate.

It's really dumb. Sure you won you're right you created an argument and voted yourself the winner but you never even got to the point of what I was saying you completely missed target and learned nothing. [Despite its poor grammar this is the true point of the entire post so I'll leave it; had you just said this and a short example or so, you would have been just fine!]
Like I said, that last line in the quote is all you needed to write. "When I write out these fantastic things, people can't seem to see past the alternative ideas that contradict their own view points and instead attack what I write, saying it's false. Well good for them, they won the non-existent debate that had nothing to do with my topic and it's frustrating to always just be shot down like that."

Post 2:
I'm not debating religion again!

Random bit about factuality, or lack thereof, in the bible.

Random equation that makes no sense and has nothing to do with the topic, but gets a good, short explanation afterwords.

Finally back to my original topic that Jesus's true message was about love, followed by a circuitous route to explain why I think this is so.

I guess I just should've said go Earth. Would've been alot simpler. [BAM! Here it is again, good job]
So here, you are trying to explain your position with lengthy, wordy blocks of text, when all you needed to say was: "I guess I should have just said Go Earth and Love! Would have been a lot simpler, huh."

Post 3:
I was saying humans are bad, which people should have gotten. In reality though, this is not at all what I was talking about; I was talking about how Jesus said "love" and the church said "hate on women". This wasn't explained in my first post here, but that's okay.

Random saying that has nothing to do with anything in this topic.

Random example of banking that has nothing to do with the topic and hardly anything to do with the random saying previous.

Conclusion about the saying, which still has nothing to do with the topic, other than to explain how a clear example can be made.
I honestly don't know what was up with this one. Omitting it completely might have been preferable.

Post 4:
Stuff about women in response to a reply.

Random, twisted saying that relates only to something long out of practice that generally has something to do with women, but otherwise completely off topic.

I was saying in my original thread that the feminine side of life is suppressed and the signs are incredibly noticeable in the health of our planet and society as a whole, and that people have been saying it for along time. Finally! I actually say what I meant to say in this topic about the other topic I made.

Now I'll say that the point of this thread was to insult you readers of the Fable forums. I may not have meant to, but that's exactly how I wrote it.
Okay! This post finally shows what you've been saying and trying to say. Perhaps if it was included in the very first post here, things would have gone better. For instance: "I was saying in my original thread that human females and feminine side of life is suppressed by others, and the signs are incredibly noticeable that this should not have happened. The health of our planet and society as a whole is intrinsically linked to women, and people have been saying this for a long time."

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You know what, forget everything I said, you people aren't worth the time. Good job on the obscure, unnecessary movie reference though (oh, by the way I was referencing a movie this whole time, it's not even my idea).

I'm saying that I'm always right and speaking straight, even though my posts and discussions never turn out that way and people tell me so. Random tangents about how I don't cause random tangents.

Ragequit.
Now you're responding irrationally to people who have been insulted but are trying to help understand what's going on anyway.

Post 6:
Random elements and tangential points made about a single response to a single random bit that didn't have anything to do with the topic until now, where I circuitously explain how I connected women with nature with Jesus and why he died.
Hm. What about: "I thought of this quote, and through a random series of connections I came to Jesus and that he died so that the world would know equal love to everyone instead of hate." You don't have to thoroughly explain everything; that just leaves people confused and stuck on the idea that you produce tangents instead of coherent responses.

Post 7:
That is exactly what I'm going through and holy crap you went straight for what this thread was intended for and gave an answer back that I was looking for. Absolutely incredible.

Because I was talking about Jesus on the cross and not women being witches. If I had said that it was the complete opposite of my original thoughts. And immediately would've been called a sexist.

My problem is the same basically as Hermit's, I have a hard time changing what in my head sounds crystal clear into writing.
This is the most to-the-point post you've made, and it's amazing to read when compared to the rest. Still, here's how to get your thoughts into more coherent writing. Simplify, simplify, simplify. Distill your ideas down to the basic roots, remove any excess that will simply get in the way of a flowing thought, then add some details to get it just right. If you want to take an example from math, always go for the lowest common denominator.

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Well I quit. Everyone hates me, nobody listens to what I'm saying, you people are all socialists. The people in charge are jackwipes and everyone else is too. Too bad you're not cool like me because then we could hang out. But we can't, because you're not cool like me. So good bye.
Totally irrational response with no backing or logic. Calm, collected posting will always win you more support than something like this. Remember, honeyed words attract more friends than vitriol and insults.


In a nutshell, from my perspective you don't see that what you write makes little sense sometimes. To your mind it may be clear, but not everybody thinks the same. Be simple, be direct, do not use phrases or metaphors. Once you know the level of understanding that your audience is capable of, stick to that, rather than starting the bar at the highest possible level and getting insulted on a personal level when they don't understand.

My parents always told me that people aren't psychic and I shouldn't assume they know what I'm talking about. This also came out in technical writing class, where you basically need to explain stuff as if everyone is a pre-teen; I find this is the best way to communicate on the broadest level.
 

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HEY!!!
HEY!!!
YOU STOLE THAT FROM ME!!
HEY!!!
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION LATER
AND WHEN I SAY SERIOUS DISCUSSION I MEAN A DUEL WITH CLAYMORES ON THE HIGHLANDS

Anyway, onto Zarkes.
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That is the face I make when I read your posts. Seriously, you could post about bread being bread and it would STILL not make sense or be incredibly cryptic.
And dude, it is not hard for me to understand things.
You know that "has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" meme?
I understood that perfectly. But your posts are just... I just... Goddamnit.
 

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Alright people, we're beating off a dead horse now.
 

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I WANT A TURN AT BEATING A DEAD HORSE! The RSPCA can't touch you for it - it's dead already, right? RIGHT???

Also, I have almost no idea what's been going on other than someone has gotten into a huff and left because we don't understand him. Or we're idiots. Or both. I'm not sure.
 

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The point of this thread is that all of you can't process quite frank information and so it's much easier to destroy and dismiss it then rewiring your brain ti accept a new piece of the puzzle.

For the most part I was sympathetic but just randomly and arrogantly offending everyone like that ****es me off a little.

If EVERYONE has a problem with ONE THING... doesn't that make the ONE THING an anomaly?
 
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