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New kid on the block? Or learning how to mod Fable?
Here are some links to tutorials and information gathered in one post.
Some of the tutorials are located on this forum, others are external.

Important notice:
Projectego.net switched the software that runs their forum, hence a couple of links are dead now.
No I'm not going to fix that. Too much work.
But if anyone else is up for it, feel free to pm me.

was so kind to find and replace the dead links, or at least most of them!
The ones that couldn't be fixed are marked // Unrecoverable Link.
Thanks!!!


Lesson 1
Make of your gamefiles!!!
You don't have to, but I'd recommend to do this when you start messing with them.
Of course you can always reinstall the game, but that takes a lot more time then replacing the screwed files with the backups.

Files to backup:
Game.bin
Script.bin
Text.big
Textures.big
Graphics.big
Effects.big
FinalAlbion.wad

By default these files can be found in the subfolders in:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fable - The Lost Chapters\Data

How to make a backup:
Click one a file once. Press 'ctrl' and 'c'. Then press 'ctrl' and 'v'.

# on making a backup.
# Making backups with ShadowNet is also very easy, see below for more details.

Help! I didn't make backups... now my game won't run.
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You can get the gamefiles of your fable disc.
Read to find out how. Check the second spoiler.
# You can also reinstall the game.
Uninstall Fable, and check if there are any files left behind here:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fable - The Lost Chapters\ [if you installed to a different directory check there of course]
If there are any files, delete them before making a fresh install.

Modding Utilities

#Vista and Windows 7 users !

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ShadowNet is Fable Explorer, but with more capabilities. If this works for you - use it instead of Fable Explorer 4.1
It has a search function, and a build in backup function. (Richt-click on a file in the top right corner, and select Backup. To restore: right-click and select Restore)
ShadowNet can also merge multiple fmp's into a single fmp, I used this to make the .
It also has the capability to make fmp's with script.bin entries - something that FableExplorer 4.1 can't.
->You need , and update your (and if it doesn't run you might need .)
->Also download the latest def.xml and put it in the Shadownet folder.

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Fable Explorer is your basic tool for editing, and using or making mods for Fable.
It can edit almost all gamefiles Fable uses. You need it to create and load FMP's (Fable Mod Package).
Info from the wiki
Fable Explorer needs the (you can also use the ).
-> you'll find a version with a search function - which is still beta, but it works fine for me.

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BayStone said:
Basically, I took FableExplorer and AlbionExplorer and fused them together and added a 3D region editor. I also tried to improve the user interface whenever possible.
There are bugs in the application. I'm not going to pretend they aren't there, 'cause they are. If the application crashes while you are using it do not come here shouting "It cr4shes!1!". That's completely pointless. I have no time for that crap.
Requirements
* Knowledge of FE and 3D modelling packages, such as Blender
* .NET 2.0
* DirectX 9.0c
* Microsoft Visual C++ SP1 Update
* A pc that wasn't built last decade
->

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With Albion Explorer you can edit the world of Fable (the levelscripts). Buildings, chest, enemy's etc.
To use this, you also need the FreeRoam App (see below). Basic help
Albion Explorer needs the (you can also use the ).

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This application extracts the FinalAlbion.wad into a bunch of tng's (which contain the levelscripts)
It can patch it so you lose the normal borders in the game.
Information on how to use it .


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This isn't exactly an application, but it can serve as a substitute for the FreeRoam App.
If you don't want to extract your FinalAlbion.wad or having trouble with the free roam app you can use this.
You can also still edit tng's with .

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Notepad is found on every pc with Windows.
You can use this text editor for scripting (editing tng files), changing .bncfg files (see #Editing the hero size)
and changing the FinalAlbion.qst (see #Play Quests again after completion).
There are alternatives which have a bit more functions such as and .

#More utilities can be found


Fable modding for XBox
Some stuff works the same as for PC, other stuff doesn't.
Can't tell you much more about it, since I havn't done it myself.
You'll find some info // Unrecoverable Link and .
General information and tutorials on modding your xbox can be found .

->If anyone has links to usefull info on this subject, please post them in this thread.


Game.bin editing

Editing the hero

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Weapon editing

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Miscellaneous

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TNG Editing (scripting)

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Editing Textures
To edit textures you need something better then Paint.
Obviously Photoshop is the standard nowadays,
but there are some alternatives that are pretty good, and free to use.
One of my favorites is , which sits somewhere between Paint and Photoshop.
Then there's which is very similar to Photoshop in it's capabilities.

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Editing Models
First off: Editing models isn't very hard, but an appliction like 3ds Max isn't like Word or even Photoshop.
It takes a little bit more to learn the basics. So if you want to edit models, prepare to put some time in it.
But: It is worth it!

# videos for 3ds Max - check it out!

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Editing Animations and the CAppearanceDef
#This is stuff for more advanced modders. If you don't consider yourself one, don't mess with it.

#It's not possible to create new animations and import them in the game (the graphics.big).

#However it is possible to add animations from other npc's to the hero, or swap the hero's model and make it use other animations.
This stuff is handled in the CAppearanceDef, and Silver wrote an to work with it. You'll also find some instructions there.
As said above: this isn't easy and I only know of a couple of people who've created mods with the app;
Silver ( ), Bluetooth ( ) and Marcopolo ( ).

#Morerunes wrote a little


Miscellaneous

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General Information and Questions

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This wiki contains a lot of info on modding Fable.

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Where Fable modding has it's roots. Please first, ask questions later...

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General Fable, Fable TLC and Fable 2 website. They have a subforum.


Notes
1: Please don't post questions about tutorials or applications here.
2: If you have suggestions about links to usefull info, post them below, and I'll update the first post.
3: Credits go to the people who wrote the tutorials and the applications,
and of course everyone who contributed to them or allowed to make it happen...
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Awesome. :D
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Well done!
Plus with that reputation stuff :D
 
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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Hi I was wondering how to make "backups" of my gamefiles (Im a noob as you can probaly gusse).
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Jack_Of_Games;92409 said:
Hi I was wondering how to make "backups" of my gamefiles (Im a noob as you can probaly gusse).
Create a folder called Fable_Backup in "My Documents" and copy and paste that into that folder.
 
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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Ok cool. thanks alot

Wait a sec..sorry for bothering again (im REALLY new at this) but what do I copy and paste?
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Jack_Of_Games;92622 said:
Ok cool. thanks alot

Wait a sec..sorry for bothering again (im REALLY new at this) but what do I copy and paste?

Everything in the Fable folder, just in case, I'd say.


 
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ok thanks alot i think iv got it now.
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Small update of first post.

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make that 'large'
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Nice FAQ, I could probably use this for future reference, along with the noob modders... +rep
 
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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Ok....I'm still as confused as hell
 

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Re: New to Modding Fable?

OldBoy;108048 said:
About what?

<-- about that
 
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Re: New to Modding Fable?

Excellent...I have been using a couple of these for quite some time, it's useful to have all of these links in one spot for the begginning - experienced modder. This should be mandatory reading. It took me awhile to find most of these and having them briefly explained and linked is just Awesome. great job, +rep.:w00t:
 

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corestrength420;108457 said:
Excellent...I have been using a couple of these for quite some time, it's useful to have all of these links in one spot for the begginning - experienced modder. This should be mandatory reading. It took me awhile to find most of these and having them briefly explained and linked is just Awesome. great job, +rep.:w00t:

Thanks for the heads up! :)

I keep updating this every now and then with new info...
 
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god I need some help.. how do you replace/use bones? is there like a file for it? I can't find it
 

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fablefreak323;111656 said:
god I need some help.. how do you replace/use bones? is there like a file for it? I can't find it

Below is how Todd got his character to look huge.

Albion Knight said:
  1. Make a back of the whole bones folder
    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fable - The Lost Chapters\data\Bones
  2. Make a copy of hero_strong_tall.bncfg
  3. Delete hero_young_set.bncfg
  4. Rename the copy of hero_strong_tall.bncfg to hero_young_set.bncfg
Now whenever you play as a kid you'll be massive. I played around with a couple of other bone configurations but this was the coolest.

 
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is there supposed to be a bones file in the upper left box of Fable Explorer?
 
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