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Purple Nurple

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...quite possibly.

Nothing on this so decided to post.

Scientists at the Opera (Oscillation Project with Emulsion-tRacking Apparatus) experiment in Gran Sasso, Italy, found that beams of neutrinos sent to its detectors from Cern, 730km away in Geneva, arrived earlier than they should have.
The trip would take a beam of light around 2.4 milliseconds to complete, but after running the experiment for three years and timing the arrival of 15,000 neutrinos, the scientists discovered that the particles arrived at Gran Sasso 60 billionths of a second earlier, with an error margin of plus or minus 10 billionths of a second.
Since the speed of light in a vaccum is 299,792,458 metres per second, the neutrinos were apparently travelling at 299,798,454 metres per second.
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(http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/23/faster-light-neutrinos)

The results are currently being scrutinised the world over to see if there's any mistake, however they have already been checked and re-checked by the scientists involved who couldn't find anything wrong with them.

Curious what everyone's take on this is - I know many of you will have interesting views. Do you reckon Einstein was wrong, or do you think the particles jumped into a fifth dimension and took a shortcut as mentioned in the guardians story? Regardless, if the results are proven to be correct it'll have serious impact on modern day physics. I'm visiting the LHC this October and what I find interesting is that despite the massive amount of effort being put into things such as the discovery of the Higgs-Boson, or the experiment relating tau and muon neutrinos is that this (questionable) discovery was accidental.

EDIT: Best explaining source probably here.
 
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I heard about this from my physics teacher. If this is true, there goes everything we knew about Physics.
 
I would be awesome to see the measurements are correct, but for a reason that leaves Energy Equals Mass Times The Speed Of Light Squared intact
 
what is this fizziks?

Wish I had the faintest idea what this all means so I could pretend to be smart and join in the conversation. Sadly this goes so far above my head that it's somewhere in space by now...I'm sure it's all very interesting though.
 
D3m190d said:
I would be awesome to see the measurements are correct, but for a reason that leaves Energy Equals Mass Times The Speed Of Light Squared intact
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I read the articles and they say it only affects part of the theory, special relativity I think. Most of Einsteins theory of general relativity has been accurate in the past, so this may be an anomaly, or we might have to revise that. I believe that I was a bit hasty in saying that we might have to change everything we know about physics
 
Angel said:
what is this fizziks?

Wish I had the faintest idea what this all means so I could pretend to be smart and join in the conversation. Sadly this goes so far above my head that it's somewhere in space by now...I'm sure it's all very interesting though.
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People agreed nothing goes faster than light. Measurements just said things went faster than light. Big shock; now being reviewed by rest of the world. If true; very important.
 
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The Question said:
I read the articles and they say it only affects part of the theory, special relativity I think. Most of Einsteins theory of general relativity has been accurate in the past, so this may be an anomaly, or we might have to revise that. I believe that I was a bit hasty in saying that we might have to change everything we know about physics
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Yea, it'll really only seriously effect particle physics but it'll have lasting reprocussions through all of physics, opening up questions such as time travel, faster than light travel etc.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Yea, it'll really only seriously effect particle physics but it'll have lasting reprocussions through all of physics, opening up questions such as time travel, faster than light travel etc.
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We'll still need to prove that tachyons exist if there is any hope of that, and we believe that they don't interact with normal matter.
 
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The Question said:
We'll still need to prove that tachyons exist if there is any hope of that, and we believe that they don't interact with normal matter.
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What's interesting is it's been thought that neutrinos could exhibit tachyonic properties. Faster than light travel is one of these properties
 
Angel said:
what is this fizziks?

Wish I had the faintest idea what this all means so I could pretend to be smart and join in the conversation. Sadly this goes so far above my head that it's somewhere in space by now...I'm sure it's all very interesting though.
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It's basically something along the lines of:
"Suddenly, after waking up one morning, Angel realized she could understand physics."
 
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Skotekal said:
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how could you say that?!science helps us understand life and teaches more than that but whats hidden out there and the secrets to uncover using SCIENCE that will effect our every day lives forever is important so don't f*** science because your failing it or failed it which ever it is.
 
D3m190d said:
People agreed nothing goes faster than light. Measurements just said things went faster than light. Big shock; now being reviewed by rest of the world. If true; very important.
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See that I get, more or less - why couldn't they just put it that way in the first place?
 
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