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9/11, The New World Order, and the American Government

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Official Conspiracy Theory Thread = Loads of FUN. (Fire, Uranium Bombs, No Survivors).

9/11: How many of you believe 9/11 was a Cover-Up? Who was involved and why? Or do you think it was actual cavemen from the Middle East who couldn't fly a single small engine plane around open air space but can drive a Boeing 747 Passenger Plane through Manhattan into two buildings?

United 93: Why were smaller planes spotted trailing United 93 on near-by radar towers, and air traffic control towers? Why was there no large pieces of debris around the, what looks like ten foot hole with trash in it aka the "Crash Site"? Why was there no bodies, no engines, nothing?

Pentagon: All footage showing the initial crash was removed from all Hotels and Buildings, never released to the public. There were no clear skid marks on the lawn showing where the plane slid into the building. The blast hole looked more like a cruise missile had struck it instead of a passenger plane. Why was a C-130 and another white jet spotted flying away in the sky, shortly after the pentagon impact?

The New World Order: Will this take place? Will it be started by the American Military or Government? Or has it started already? We destabilized the Middle East, Africa is being controlled by starvation, war is close to breaking out in Korea, RFID chips are soon to be released to the public, freedoms are being limited, privacy is being invaded, 9/11 lacks evidence and back-up. Could this all be a sign of the New World Order or just really sucky leadership?

Dun dun dun.
 
I really don't think there will be a NWO any time soon. As long as there are ideas opposing other ideas we can only improve - a thesis combines with it's opposite antithesis to form a synthesis. This leads to combination then to balance. This new resolved idea is the new thesis, with which there will be another antithesis and so over time our different ideas will constantly improve.

For example, the rioting that was in London and that has since spread to other European countries will put a boot up the governements arse to sort something out. They're not gonna come round and kill anyone under 25, they'll adapt their ideas to suit more people.

We're at no stage that we have achieved perfect synthesis, and as such, as NWO would not only be impossible, it would be counter productive. The point of a NWO would be to unite people under one common cause, and with the US at the helm (a strictly capitalist country) how is everyone in the world supposed to get along?
 
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Shirosaki said:
Why would America start one? What authority do they have? None.
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Precisely. And now that everyone realises how much of a fail America is at making world decisions they'd have LESS support than they already did. Military presensce isn't as big a factor as it used to be, as shown by the Vietnam campaign, Bay of Pigs, etc.
 
i don't buy into conspiracy theories. did the U.S. government do 9/11?
no.
did they have information on 9/11 which was clumsily disregarded?
probably.

was kurt cobain just a suicidal heroin addict?
no.

was his wife, who he was going to divorce very shortly, offering people $50,000 to kill him by the method he died, mentally abusing him, and mentioning suicide and his will suspiciously in conversation?
goddamn right she was. if she didn't have him killed, then she drove the poor guy to being suicidal.
 
Someone just watched Zeitgeist. Lemme advise you: those movies aren't the most truthful creations out there. Nothing trumps making your own mind up about something.

I really doubt that the US Government orchestrated 9/11, but I think with all the unanswered questions that there was a massive cover up of some kind. I think the most likely explaination is that they let it happen in order to get the fear and panic thing happening.

And lemme just say: I'd be suicidal too if I were married to Courtney Love.
 
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I don't trust any big government, call me a paranoid Anarchist.
Was 9/11 our government's fault? Yes.
Did they do it themselves? I don't think so, though it is possible.

What I mean by this is: We did a ****ty job stopping the attacks and a worse job investigating them and an even worse job taking revenge. But I don't think the whole govt was making it happen, maybe one or two guys on the inside helped the terrorists out without the governments authority.

Has the Govt tried doing things like that before? Yes.


NWO? I doubt it. But I am just a fleshy peon.


And may Kurt Cobain rest in peace, he was a beacon, and he chose his way out, was it the best? No, but at least it was of his own accord.
 
He wasn't racist, he was just referencing the popular view of the living conditions of a particular group of terrorists. He never said anything about their "race".
 
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He wasn't racist, he was just referencing the popular view of the living conditions of a particular group of terrorists. He never said anything about their "race".
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"Cavemen" as far as I know refers to Neanderthals, not terrorists. Knowing Sean's views on stuff anti-American, I made the link that he must be referring to Middle Eastern people as Neanderthals.
 
The US could never start anything like NWO. You can't even begin to understand the s**t storm China would kick up. The world would end from mass nuclear war before a NWO is established.
 
Shirosaki said:
"Cavemen" as far as I know refers to Neanderthals, not terrorists. Knowing Sean's views on stuff anti-American, I made the link that he must be referring to Middle Eastern people as Neanderthals.
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I thought he was just saying that because Al Qaeda are often depicted as living in caves.
 
The New World Order is not done by America... IT IS ME, MHUAHAHAHAH. I will rule the world! (But I'm not evil, I promise...). Yes, I control the Terrorists, and yes I control the American Government. And yes again, just about all powers in the world! Soon, you will bow to me... And live a life in peace, utmost harmony... And ignorance.
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The scheme will unfold.​

(Nothing is true, everything is permitted?)

On topic, though: I think there must be some things that the world leaders don't tell us. But a New World Order seems a little over the top. And still, if America was indeed planning such a thing, wouldn't WikiLeaks reveal it, in time? :P
 
Lol'd around three times.

The caveman reference was going to al Qaeda, or Taliban (however you see it). It wasn't going to all people in the Middle East, why would it? Not everyone from the Middle East was involved in 9/11 so why would I even bring them up? I was talking about the terrorists.

"America has no authority." - Have you been to America?
"America is a fail." - Have you been to America?

Highly doubt it.

Tsuyu: Yeah, that's an important factor I think a lot of people who believe in the NWO forget about.
 
Sean said:
"America has no authority." - Have you been to America?
"America is a fail." - Have you been to America?

Highly doubt it.
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I'm part American, lived near Portland, Maine for three years.

So, uh, yeah. Your arguement has no substantiability. You're essentially saying,

'GTFO my country is the best you can't talk you haven't experience the canned awesome that is the US! Whoo, let's kill some ragheads! (Not talking about Muslims, but about terrorists, geez.)'
 
Sean said:
It wasn't going to all people in the Middle East, why would it? Not everyone from the Middle East was involved in 9/11 so why would I even bring them up?
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You normally come across as a bigoted, dogmatic hillbilly.
"America has no authority." - Have you been to America?
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Since this would be a sociological shift, I'll use the sociological definition. Authority is the right to use power or influence over something else. So no, America has NO authority over the rest of the world and creating a New World Order.
"America is a fail." - Have you been to America?
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George W. Bush.
 
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Purple - That is funny since I do not even want our troops to be over there right now, 7 years in Iraq and 10 in Afghanistan for ****ing nothing, I want them home, but I will still defend them because unlike some users, I realize it is not their fault, that bad intel sometimes happens, and it is essentially up to the country leader. Yes, some hillbillies friendly fired British soldiers in the initial invasion, that is their fault, I would never do that because Britain is one of our greatest and respected allies but just like you guys tell me I cannot group all muslims together as terrorists, you cannot group all Americans together as hillbillies or fatties because of the few you see. You, have essentially seen more obviously since you lived here for three years but I am talking to those who have not even stepped foot out of Britain farless entered America.

Shirosaki - I love how you have ignored my question three times in a row now. I have no authority over a school teacher, can I still cause a riot? Yes. George Bush? Yeah unlike his father, good ol W was a fail, so is Obama, and Clinton and Palin and McCain. You keep telling me stuff I already realize and recognize.
 
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