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DO NOT ENTER IF YOU HAVNT FINISHED HARRY POTTER 7

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When I watched the Order of the Phoenix, the bit when Lestrange killed Sirius was annoying because she casts the killing curse on him. In the book he just falls through the arc. To me it was basically saying "Yup. Sirius won't be coming back."
 
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droded;117103 said:
When I watched the Order of the Phoenix, the bit when Lestrange killed Sirius was annoying because she casts the killing curse on him. In the book he just falls through the arc. To me it was basically saying "Yup. Sirius won't be coming back."
Yeah. Out of all of the characters deaths, his and Dumbledore's were th hardest I think because we can become so attached, even emotionally to those characters. Still they did a good job.
 
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What about Fred? He was the Fo Shizzle
 
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droded;117109 said:
What about Fred? He was the Fo Shizzle

Well like I said I suspected one of the Weasley's had it coming, if not Ron or Ginny one of the other family members. At first when George came back(it was George who lost the ear right?) I thought he was worse off and that he was going to die or something. Maybe it was foreshadowing in a way when Jk wrote that.
 
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So i said i comment on peoples comments but when i woke up there were 43 comments so ill comment when i can...

I didnt like the way fred was killed off or the way lupin and tonks were... they were all just random... freds was somewhat better but harry just sees lupin and tonks lying there deally it... i think it would have been awesome to have a greyback vs. lupin werewolfed out fight. The death that made me the most upset was dobby. Mad eye was aslo upseting but i think thats how he would have preferred to die

Also...

I think the character who had never used magic could have been mrs weasley. she had used magic around the house but never in a duel and she whooped bellatrix. maybe not... i dont know
 
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gdude987654321;117139 said:
So i said i comment on peoples comments but when i woke up there were 43 comments so ill comment when i can...

I didnt like the way fred was killed off or the way lupin and tonks were... they were all just random... freds was somewhat better but harry just sees lupin and tonks lying there deally it... i think it would have been awesome to have a greyback vs. lupin werewolfed out fight. The death that made me the most upset was dobby. Mad eye was aslo upseting but i think thats how he would have preferred to die

Also...

I think the character who had never used magic could have been mrs weasley. she had used magic around the house but never in a duel and she whooped bellatrix. maybe not... i dont know

I don't think it could have been Mrs. Weasley. We've seen her use magic multiple times around the Burrow. To me Mrs. Weasley always appeared as a highly skilled and powerful witch, however she never showed it to her full degree in front of Harry and/or other guests, which may even include family members as well. I still don't know who it is, but it just doesn't seem to fit the puzzle, Mrs. Weasley being the missing piece.:hmm:

I have to say that one of my favorite parts of the book was when Harry dies and he's at King's Cross sitting with Dumbledore and he's filling Harry in on secrets and other things. It's really interesting and rather a very touching moment too, because he gets to see Dumbledore, not in pain or anything, just like his old self...but dead.:lol: Jk did a great job with that part, but hell she did a great job with the whole book.:P
 
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I loved that book...this sounds like a kindergardener saying this but...I wish that magic and Hogwarts really did exist. but of course...we wouldnt know that it does or dosnt...and we dont, even tho i doubt it...still be cool tho.
 
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Rhadiel;117170 said:
I loved that book...this sounds like a kindergardener saying this but...I wish that magic and Hogwarts really did exist. but of course...we wouldnt know that it does or dosnt...and we dont, even tho i doubt it...still be cool tho.

Magic does exist. It's inside everything and you, but sometimes we just have to find it.:P:ninja: Hogwarts may not be real, but yeah Jk certainly makes it feel like reality!:w00t::(
 
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blu phoenix;117174 said:
Magic does exist. It's inside everything and you, but sometimes we just have to find it.:P:ninja: Hogwarts may not be real, but yeah Jk certainly makes it feel like reality!:w00t::(

that statement kinda crepped me out...anyway...i dont get y people dont believe magic exist...we have more proof is does exist then it doesn't :ninja:
 
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I thought it was almost cute the way
Kreacher turned good-ish after a while...and I would really have liked it if the Malfoy's had had a death too...all that they had to deal with was that idiot friend of Draco's getting burned to death or whatever...

I also would love to see how Warner Bros reckon they are going to get away with anything less than a 15 certificate (dunno what the equivalent is in USA) when they come to do this book. I mean,
Neville being set on fire alive is pretty grossed-out stuff, wouldn't you say?
 
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Angel;117293 said:
I thought it was almost cute the way
Kreacher turned good-ish after a while...and I would really have liked it if the Malfoy's had had a death too...all that they had to deal with was that idiot friend of Draco's getting burned to death or whatever...

I also would love to see how Warner Bros reckon they are going to get away with anything less than a 15 certificate (dunno what the equivalent is in USA) when they come to do this book. I mean,
Neville being set on fire alive is pretty grossed-out stuff, wouldn't you say?


I also liked how kreacher became good... i thought all the malfoys died except mom and draco... maybe im not remembering it correctly but i thought voldemort killed them at gringotts when he killed like 20 ppl at once... and yeah i like how neville went from not being able to anythin in the 1st book to being awesome in the last
 
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PG-13 at the least, here. I fear the movie may be sensored to avoid an R rating, but we'll see >_<"

I don't think they covered who actually died...More of as "See Who's Mentioned Afterwards To Find Out! *for example, Greyback clearly didn't die there :-P* I don't recall Lucius being mentioned later on in the book....
 
Potter Hater...

Right... will everyone who, A) Doesn't think that Rowling walks on water and B) Thinks that the vast majority of this book (I.E. plot and characters) sucked, please raise your hand...

Ah, so sad, it seems I'm all alone.

Alright, some things I most disliked (WARNING! VERY LONG):

First, the fact that she contradicted herself so much. In the first hundred or so pages, first Hermione says she used a memory charm on her parents to erase their memory of her and the wizards. Then they end up in the little restaurant, and are caught by a couple Death Eaters and beat them and she says she has never performed one before. There are a few others, none of which are major but which are very annoying. I mean, fine, contradict yourself, but don't do it within two hundred pages. I mean, so many other authors manage NOT to do it, why can't she?

Second, I'm really damned sick of "special" characters these days. Chosen Ones, superpowerful mages, whatever, I'm sick of them. I'm also sick of the little facet of most writing, where viewpoint characters and important secondry characters have little immortality protection fields. I mean, yeah, she killed off some characters... but the ones she killed off were mostly ones I liked!

I mean, Moody was a bit of a moron, but at least he never seemed as unrealistic about the world as some others, even if he had that same obsession with Harry.

She killed off Fred, and I liked the twins just because they were entertaining and relatively rational.

She killed off Lupin (THANK YOU GOD!!!) and Tonks... her I'm ambigous about.

Killed of Hedwig, which was obnoxious.

Killed Dobby, which... I actually approved of. Sure, he was a bit slavish and obsessed... but he was badass enough for me to forgive it, especially since I've always like house elves, even with their slavish nature.

But... well, it wasn't the type I like. I prefer the Turtledove style, where the viewpoint characters are... not expendable, no human being is that, even in a book, but they are no more special, for the most part, than any other. They don't die in acts of heroism or great battles. It's far more common for them to die in pointless, desultory artillery barrages; or as a result of the industrial, mass-produced hatred of the Nazis; a suicide bomb; a mugging; or even of a heart attack, old age, cancer, or pneumonia. I just like realism.

I also utterly hated the plot... I mean, "deathly hallows??????" Sending a bunch of angst-ridden teenagers to find the Ring of-- oops sorry, I got confused. I forgot, this is Rowling's Tolkien knockoff-- "horcruxes???" It was just... my god, that was annoying.

I also kept hoping that somebody with nukes and some serious paranoia would find out about the threat posed by Voldy and blow the Uk (I'm sorry guys... I don't want YOU dead, just Rowling' creation) to hell and gone. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, Sirius, most of the damn one-dimensional crap evil characters, and others that I don't remember just plain sucked.

I just... my, god. I really can't express it that well... I hate Rowling's characters and a lot of her plot.

On the other hand, she has an excellent grasp of the technical aspects of writing and is good at making her scribbling engaging. Her world, though unoriginal, is very good. If she wrote another, with completely new characters or with just a few of the old (hopefully ones I actually like) and managed to improve the quality of her characters and her plots... well, then she might actually be half as good as most people here seem to think she is.

I can't agree with you that she's as good as you view. She is readable and entertaining, but far from a master or a genius. I prefer Philip K. Dick, or Robert A. Heinlein, or Robert Ludlum, or Timothy Zahn-- Terry Pratchett, Tolkien, and perhaps a couple others I'll remember as soon as I hit "submit." Rowling is more in the same class as, but below the level, of Eric Flint, David Weber, John Ringo, and their compatriots; or Kevin J. Anderson, Piers Anthony, and others.



(Edit: Yeah, I said I wouldn't be here till Thursday. I lied.)
 
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A werewolf showdown between Lupus and Greyback would've been the shizzle
 
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Another duel that i would have enjoyed would have been voldemort vs. grindwald... or however you spell his name... because according to someone in the book grindwald was the best dark wizard until dumbledore defeated him so grindwald should have been able to put up a fight... realistically he should have been able to break out of his own prison...
 
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I'd forgotten all about the Hermione thing until Walker mentioned it. I think JK's real problem was being one of those writers who thinks that writing for the growing kid is a good idea. It's not. It's a phenomenally bad idea that never works out well because you have to alter your style in order to compensate for the fact that your average 17 year old won't give a crap about Blast-Ended skrewts or the hilarity that is detention with Filch.

She writes a very enjoyable book - but I still maintain that she made it difficult for herself to wrap it all up satisfactorily. It was very neat, the ending, but incredibly convenient at the same time. I like her work - she's not a genius but can write a good narrative - and I have thoroughly enjoyed the books; but I would have loved it if things hadn't been so neatly sorted out at the end and a whole chunk hadn't been devoted to a Bond villain style dialogue where everything that could possibly be explained and then some is covered.

And I definitely would have loved to have seen
Greyback chew up more people and he and Lupin rip each other apart...I also didn't like the way (as some of you have mentioned) Tonks and Lupin just...die...with no detail. Oh and whilst Lucius isn't mentioned later on, page 597 says that "...he (Harry) spotted the three Malfoys, huddled together as though unsure whether or not they were supposed to be there..." I'm guessing that's Lucius, Narcissa and Draco.

Despite what others may feel, I do think JK deserves a place amongst other great children's writers. She writes an engaging descriptive narrative and has managed to live up to a lot of her own hype, although not all. The darker aspects she has touched on lately may well prove to be useful if she did write another book, perhaps aimed at adults...there were many hints of some really nasty concepts coming through but she held back in the HP books to a great extent, I feel.
 
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Good point Walker...but I highly disagree.

I've read the whole book. I guess I can put my review here if you don't mind.



After reading Harry Potter, I felt as if I was ending a stage in my life. I remember when I was really small, used to get picked on, and of course....wore glasses. I never really focused in class, I always felt sports were just plain awesome. I was basically alone. This is the first time I'm bringing this out, but I think it had to be done for this book.

Then I picked up Sorcerer's Stone. I was introduced with Harry Potter, a boy who had lost his parents in a terrible confrontation with Voldemort, a sinister warlord. I can't say how this relates to me, but as the story goes on, I feel as if I can understand the characters. Instead of not really relating, I could feel and understand why they did this or that. But through out the whole series, I stuck with Harry and his two friends. Later when I was in I think second grade...when I finished the book. I'm not saying I had a Voldemort in my life, or a stone I had to find, or even a broomstick that I flew to get a golden snitch. But in reality, Harry Potter was me. A loner, with friends, but couldn't explain his problems. Who was brave, a loyal friend, but in pain of the history that he once had.

Harry and I grew up. I was 17 when I picked up Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows. The age that Harry was about to be, and I knew from the previous books that things would change. Previously, I was pushed into a fantasy world mixed with reality, of Basilisks, Werewolves, Dark Wizards, Evil Spells, House Elves, Goblins, Trolls, Giants, and a boy that was stuck in between it all. Hunted down by a man who's soul was not complete, who had this one chance to become one again. And there was just so much more.

And now, Harry and I were at the end. The book starts out in Privet Drive, with Harry's Uncle Vernon, Aunt Petunia, and Dudley leaving to be safe from the vile that is plagueing the lands. Voldemort is rising from power, Dumbledore is dead, Death eaters are killing Muggles and Half Bloods. Harry soon realizes he needs to finish what he started, destroy the Horcruxes and kill Voldemort. But he isn't going alone. The trio of Harry, Ron, and Hermione travel through far out lands to destroy these dark objects. Points like the Sword of Gryffindor is used again in this book, where Ron desperately tries to destroy a Horcrux, and wins. But there is alot of seperation, also. Ron left for quite some time, Harry doesn't know whether his friends will survive or not, Mad-Eye is dead, he's on the run, and his scar is forming it all into pain. This is a story of teenage struggle, with a fantasy twist and real pain we all go through. Loss and fear.

And through it all, it seems the heroes suffice. At one point they arrive at Gringotts, which you probably know from Book 1, as a goblin bank with many secrets. When they arrive, they begin to search for one certain Horcrux, but all hell breaks loose. The items are red hot, and duplicate when touched. Harry reaches for the horcrux with the Sword, but fails. Meanwhile, the goblins know he's there, and a guarding Dragon is in mighty rage. Luckily, the trio escape on the dragon, exhausted of what has happened so far.

But we're only half way there. The story leads us at the Malfoy mansion, where some recognizable characters are back such as Mr.Ollivander, the man who sold harry's wand, is back...even Griphook and Dean. Meanwhile, Hermione is being tortured by Bellatrix Lestrange, an evil Death Eater and servant of the Dark Lord. When all hope is lost, and Harry pleads for help out of mythical fool, a character we all might know from the second book comes back.

Dobby the House Elf, a free elf that Harry potter freed from Lucious Malfoy. Harry tells Dobby to get the others, and leave ron and Himself at the mansion. Dobby does so, and dissapears. Harry is then pinned down upstairs, Bellatrix holding her knife at Hermione, the Death eaters battling Harry and Ron. When all of a sudden, and this is my favorite part, wreckage falls on Bellatrix and nearly misses, her wand is taken, and Dobby arrives back, and muses:

"Dobby is a free elf!"

Though many die that we know and love, Harry Potter is a story of not being afraid, sticking with friends when they're the only people you have, and going that extra mile to not only save us all...but save yourself. The Battle of Hogwarts reigns, many people die, die for Harry, and the rest continue to fight. People such as Professor Flitwick and Professor McGonagall. Harry learns the past of Dumbledore and Snape, heroes that were once loners and trying to make sense of the world. So many things packed into a book, and they all make sense.

Harry knows what he must do. Fred is dead, Hagrid seems to be dead, people are dieing around him. He nows that he must die now, he must be killed because he as the fragment of Voldemort that the Dark Lord will always want. And when Harry sacrifices himself, he turns out to be in a white room, strikes a conversation with Dumbledore, and realizes: He is the last Horcrux that Voldemort needs. Harry also realizes Dumbledore was a man who was seeking greatness, who at one point didn't care for others...but in the end, helped all. Hagrid carries Harry's body back to Hogwarts, rests it on the feet of Lord Voldemort, and hears his battle cry of happiness and success. But in the thick of it all, one surprising character fights back. Neville Longbottom strikes Nagini with the Sword, chants "Dumbledore's Army!" and the battle continues.

We come to a point where it's only Harry and Voldemort, something that had never happened before, just the two battleing of pure skill. Harry realizes that Voldemort never had any love, never had the friends he did, so in the clash of magic...Harry strikes voldemort down.

From what I summarized, the book seems not that exciting, but if you read it...if you remembered all the times Harry had and the great adventures he had now...and you remembered one thing: Even a person like Harry, with crooked glasses and what he seemed to be false hope, can change the world...and save it. Give hope to people who held onto hope, who stayed on the ride even when there was dangerous parts. Who stayed until the end. And the story concludes, Harry now grown up as his friends next to him, watching his son and his daughter ride away on the Hogwarts express like he did years and years ago.

And when I close the book, I slowly place it on my table in my room, the table where I put the first book many years ago, and smiled. Because it was not the end. Just a mere conclusion. The rest is for your mind to decide, like it did imagining the world JK Rowling put in.

And I remember when I was about 7 or 6, picking up the first book, where I would never be in the same world again. I sought refuge, for I had a horrible past like Harry's, but I had friends that stayed with me like our main Hero. I remember cheering when Harry stabbed the basilisk, when he caught that one golden snitch, when he strided on Buckbeak, when he risked his life to battle the Hungarian Horntail in the Triwizard tournament. Harry and I had been through rough times, but I knew I was with him the entire journey. And in the end, when the last word was written and Harry Potter continued his glorious life, I asked myself why he did it. Why he went through it all. And I realized it was family. Real family. Family that was gone, family that remained, family that would be.

And to this day and forward, I will remember the one of the last quotes two characters shared in the series.

"Tell me one last thing," Said Harry. "Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?"

Dumbledore beamed at him, and his voice sounded loud and strong in Harry's ears even though the bright mist was descending again, obscuring his figure.

"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"


I grew up with Harry, and here we are.

-Jason H (LHT)


^Fixing spelling errors, just typed it so fast
 
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You should put that in a spoiler, to avoid the closing of this thread.

Also, +Rep Mr. Tex.
 
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I don't see why I have to, seeing as to how this is a spoiler thread by itself...but thanks
 
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LionHeadTex;117719 said:
I don't see why I have to, seeing as to how this is a spoiler thread by itself...but thanks

I said that because Angel told us to:

Angel;116970 said:
Okey dokey guys, I'm allowing this thread as the book has been released and you have very kindly warned others in the title that there may be spoilers.

HOWEVER - please can you guys make use of the spoiler tags - as annoying as they are there are some things that really should be hidden until someone decides to read them and you know that somewhere along the line someone is going to have a tantrum because they dived in here before finishing the book and got it all spoiled for them.

Just trying to be useful is all...
 
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