Master Chief vs. Predator

[Dark Drakan]

Re: Master Chief vs. Predator

Cheers drakay pooh.

That fecker loike.... will not die.

+rep

No problem. ^_^

 

[Sephiroxas]

Re: Master Chief vs. Predator

you halo haters (mainly directed to zeej) just dislike how overpowered the chief is. you're right, he's probably one of the most overpowered and invincible characters in video game history. it would take Ryu Hayabusa or Kratos to beat him if you ask me. but then, once you tap in to characters who can use magic or are textbook immortal (not just damn near impossible to kill) it's a slippery slope.

I love halo as much as the next person. But I don't see how Master Cheif is "Overpowered" He's actually very fragile. I can't tell you how many times I've died while playing halo. Not to mention if there aren't any health kits around he's pretty much screwed. Also, his armor through the games seems to become worse, and less powerful.

Any direct Sniper-hit, rocket-launch, or Grenade-Stick will kill him.

BTW, Predator, FTW..

 

[White_Howler]

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I never bothered to watch any series or read any books about a dood who is needlessly overpowered. Also, a single rocket kills him, always... if it directly hits. He may be a badass, but he's certainly not immortal.

I never read any of the AvP comics either, but I had friends who did. Predators are... insane to say the least. The movies do them no justice whatsoever (have not seen the latest AvP so I do not know about that one.)

I didn't want to bring this up, but let's take Samus, fully powered from any of the games, specifically Fusion. She has 250 missiles, with an AoE freeze effect, nuke-style bombs, way more mobility than MC could ever have, her screw attack nullifies any and all projectiles, she locks on, she has an insane damage threshold, has a morph ball form making her a smaller and faster target, can shoot through walls AND shields. She's a badass too. Though if the two fought she'd win due to a 'war of attrition'. She has more missiles, more life, and a never ending supply of her main gun. He would give her a run for his money though.

My whole point with this is he is NOT the most badass thing to walk. He sure is pretty badass. But the Tau from the game Fire Warrior could woop MC. He fights through armies of SPACE MARINES. And btw, Space Marines (especially Chaos Marines), are WAY more badass than Spartans. In Warhammer 40k, they've been making advancements in war for over 35000 years. Genetically breeding the most advanced super soldiers. On top of continual progression of war technology. In the table-top game, they are incredibly OP, (so much so they make some other playable races not so fun *cough*Eldar*cough*. And the Fire Warrior (having superior weaponry but FAR less superior armor) takes on battalions of them, and their even stronger and more fearsome counterparts the Chaos Marines. But even that insanely awesome Fire Warrior is still simply a soldier, not godly.

In the end, MC is simply a badass soldier, but not the greatest warrior ever.

 

[Firis]

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I never read any of the AvP comics either, but I had friends who did. Predators are... insane to say the least. The movies do them no justice whatsoever (have not seen the latest AvP so I do not know about that one.)

Preds are super badass, the new AvP still doesn't do them justice though, but it helps: he dual wields the plasma cannons, has laser traps, takes on two Aliens in hand to hand and wins, etc.

 

[Fenrir]

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AVPR was better than the discraceful first AVP, but I was still rather dissapointed. Predators was the s**t though.

 

[Firis]

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6Haven't seen it yet, Have to wait till it hits DVD

 

[GrimWhim]

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I love halo as much as the next person. But I don't see how Master Cheif is "Overpowered" He's actually very fragile. I can't tell you how many times I've died while playing halo. Not to mention if there aren't any health kits around he's pretty much screwed. Also, his armor through the games seems to become worse, and less powerful.

Any direct Sniper-hit, rocket-launch, or Grenade-Stick will kill him.

BTW, Predator, FTW..

I don't think you sucking at the game means Master Chief is killed easily. You'd have to look at him as if he were real and the weapons available to him. He's got a lot in his arsenal so he won't be easy to take down IF he can even be taken down.

I'm no MC fanboy but I still think he has the advantage.

 

[Shirosaki]

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Master Chief is so overrated by fanboys, it's stupid.

Both were bred for war.
Both use stealth techniques but Predator can cloak anytime he wants.
If anything, Predator uses a better arsenal of weapons.*
Predator also has Heat Vision to seek out warm blooded enemies and another vision to seek out cold blooded enemies.

I'm not really seeing any challenge.


* Predator has his weapons on him at all times, MC does not.

But the Chief has luck.. ^_^

 

[Sephiroxas]

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I don't think you sucking at the game means Master Chief is killed easily. You'd have to look at him as if he were real and the weapons available to him. He's got a lot in his arsenal so he won't be easy to take down IF he can even be taken down.
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So me playing legendary Halo: CE and Halo 2 bymyself means I suck?...And I didn't know when a game has an endless life spawning system, and I think I'm not going to have any luck with what I'm currently doing in the game and let myself die means I sucked..And when I'm running along and an invisible elite comes out of nowhere with a sword and insta kills me, apparently that means I suck also..

I, in fact, do not suck at FPS, and am in fact very good at them.

 

[White_Howler]

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I don't think you sucking at the game means Master Chief is killed easily. You'd have to look at him as if he were real and the weapons available to him. He's got a lot in his arsenal so he won't be easy to take down IF he can even be taken down.

I'm no MC fanboy but I still think he has the advantage.

All I see from you is degrading remark after degrading remark. Oh well.

Sucking at a game has nothing to do with the fact that MC still gets killed by a rocket. Also, do not assume someone sucks, because as far as I know, you are terrible at games.

So if I take into account you are looking at MC as a real person (an ignorant assumption to begin with), then if Samus were real, or perhaps my previous example the nameless Fire Warrior would both wreck him.

Edit: Also, MC has NO arsenal and must rely on dead opponents dropped weapons. Even in the beginning of the game he has NO gun until he is given one. He has no built in weaponry and thus can be disarmed. Predator still wins because he is gentically engineered, cybernetic, and bred for combat just like MC.

 

[GrimWhim]

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All I see from you is degrading remark after degrading remark. Oh well.

Sucking at a game has nothing to do with the fact that MC still gets killed by a rocket. Also, do not assume someone sucks, because as far as I know, you are terrible at games.

So if I take into account you are looking at MC as a real person (an ignorant assumption to begin with), then if Samus were real, or perhaps my previous example the nameless Fire Warrior would both wreck him.

Edit: Also, MC has NO arsenal and must rely on dead opponents dropped weapons. Even in the beginning of the game he has NO gun until he is given one. He has no built in weaponry and thus can be disarmed. Predator still wins because he is gentically engineered, cybernetic, and bred for combat just like MC.

So me playing legendary Halo: CE and Halo 2 bymyself means I suck?...And I didn't know when a game has an endless life spawning system, and I think I'm not going to have any luck with what I'm currently doing in the game and let myself die means I sucked..And when I'm running along and an invisible elite comes out of nowhere with a sword and insta kills me, apparently that means I suck also..

I, in fact, do not suck at FPS, and am in fact very good at them.

You said it yourself that you died a lot. Are you telling me dying is a good thing? It wasn't meant as an insult more of me saying that just because you die a lot does not mean Master Chief would do the same.

 

[Sephiroxas]

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You said it yourself that you died a lot. Are you telling me dying is a good thing? It wasn't meant as an insult more of me saying that just because you die a lot does not mean Master Chief would do the same.

Well, I'll give you that. :lol:

 

[White_Howler]

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You said it yourself that you died a lot. Are you telling me dying is a good thing? It wasn't meant as an insult more of me saying that just because you die a lot does not mean Master Chief would do the same.

That was MUCH better worded than your last post.

This is true, but take into account his simple mortality. Dropping a nuke on MC would still disintegrate him. Also again, where's he getting his weapons from in this fight? What loadout would he be just walking around with. Where would the fight take place? There's a lot based on circumstances that I think people ignore. Yea MC is badass but so is a Predator, and usually there's more than one, more like 3-4. They hunt like a pack and even MC would be hard pressed to survive a full on Predator assault. Just one though, I think It's at WORST an EVEN fight. Again, it really depends on circumstances.

 

[GrimWhim]

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That was MUCH better worded than your last post.

This is true, but take into account his simple mortality. Dropping a nuke on MC would still disintegrate him. Also again, where's he getting his weapons from in this fight? What loadout would he be just walking around with. Where would the fight take place? There's a lot based on circumstances that I think people ignore. Yea MC is badass but so is a Predator, and usually there's more than one, more like 3-4. They hunt like a pack and even MC would be hard pressed to survive a full on Predator assault. Just one though, I think It's at WORST an EVEN fight. Again, it really depends on circumstances.

That's all I meant by it. I do realize that my posts often come off as insulting but that was not my intention.

Are you saying a predator would survive a nuke? See, I don't know too much about predators because I wasn't a huge fan of them (more of an Aliens fan, actually) and what little I know comes from the movie(s) I've seen and the game I played.

Still, one could assume Master Chief would come equipped with at least some equipment. The first game he was unarmed but he DID just wake up from being frozen (Right? Or am I remembering something else?) so it's understandable for him not to be armed.

I don't remember much about Halo 2 or Halo 3 so I can't comment on those.

But yes, the fight would be very circumstantial.

 

[White_Howler]

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No... predators would be fried by nukes too... was just pointing out that MC is not godly and can die. But that's besides the point.

Also, what game are MC's guns gonna be from? The Pistol from Halo 1 would be... unfair...

But sadly, the location, who gets first strike, MC's weapon loadout... these all matter.

I'd have to say, given Predator tactics, they would probably get the first strike, or at the very least attempt to by all means. It's safe to assume MC isn't carrying around a Spartan Laser or anything else that INSANE. Most likely the Assault Rifle and some other standard issue gun. I mean, MC shouldn't be aware of the attack before it happens as that's not how predators roll.

So what we DO know is this:

MC is not aware he will be attacked, and thus has no battle plan, or intent or expectation of battle.

Predator will aim for first strike, and is hiding, invisible.

The Predator has his wrist blade, the spear thing, the shoulder cannon, his mask, and the disc. (I think that's basic Predator loadout).

We can assume MC has an assault rifle and a Sniper rifle or rocket launcher or some other human basic gun.

Location is VERY key to this fight.

They are both alone, and have no back or help.

MC is limited to what ammunition he has in his two weapons, and whatever frag grenades he has on him.

Since there are no others involved in the fight, he won't have access to Covenant weaponry. Also, since there no enemies for him to fight, it's probably unlikely that there will be spare guns and ammunition just lying about.

 

[Daemon300]

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It all depends on whether the Predator is a male or female, blooded or unblooded, all that kind of crap.

Also, the Predator Hunters have a med-kit of some kind. The basic equipment for a hunter is a Smartdisc, the combi stick, the wrist blades, and the shoulder cannon. Also, invisibility. MC would have no chance.

If MC fought an Elite Predator then that's double no chance, since Elites are more experienced, and have been to many hunts, and brought back many trophies. They also has more weapons and gadgets at their disposal.

 

[White_Howler]

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You've got me stumped there. I don't know about the 'blooded' thing, or the difference between males and females.

But this is my point, a lot of circumstances involved.

No "A versus B" style matchup will EVER be clear cut.

 

[Aions]

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^MC never died. And neither did any other SPARTAN. SPARTANS never die.

win

MC all the way

 

[Zjuggernaut]

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win

MC all the way

*Sigh*

Also, Predator can be used in plural terms. Making Master Chief vastly out-numbered.

WIN.

 

[GrimWhim]

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*Sigh*

Also, Predator can be used in plural terms. Making Master Chief vastly out-numbered.

WIN.

Quick question though. Have the predators ever fought a single enemy together? Because they seem like the type of race not to mess with each other's prey. Also, Master Chief rarely fought alone so that logic could be used against them.