Wait a mo....

[Nekaku]

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^Hmm... You listen to mainstream over true?

I listen to the Mainstream as well as the non-mainstream.

I try not to be a hypocrite...

EDIT*
I mean I try not to be ignorant... I try to be fair...

 

[Firis]

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Same, I was jsut asking, and yes some are brainwashed, but many hate the American liberation of Iraq... I think it was stupid, Iran was the target, we invade Iraq to liberate them and look for WMDs, then Iran makes the WMDs and we don't do crap
"We don't believe in credibility, because we know that were ****ing incredible
I want to be a martyr don't want to be a victim,
Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero,
Want to be a martyr don't want to be a victim,
Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero

God is an excuse So sing it with me

We're from America, we're from America, we're from America, you can sing it with me
We're from America, we're from America, we're from America, you can sing it with me"

 

[Tsuyu]

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And those kids that are being brain washed... Do you watch the news? It was even covered on the mainstream.

And Of course they have to recruit some civilians. But not the normal ones. The average population was happy to have the US come. The ones they recruited are "Re-educated" ones. Broken down to the point of complete obedience. It doesn't take long to do that. And then there is just plain "if you don't fight, You will die." Being Terrorists, many of them okay with suicide, they just have to a sure someone that if they don't fight, if they do anything against the will of the terrorists, that even if it's with there last breaths, they will kill them.

I'm pretty sure you're the one being brainwashed to some degree. Of course they are only gonna show the happy Iraqis who are cheering and shaking hands with the U.S troops on the telly.

 

[sirgage0]

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Firis...You're awesome. Flipping Great song.

In the Iraqi's viewpoint, we are just as much "terrorists" as they are to us.
Moreso, actually.

 

[ScareCrowReturn]

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Excuse me for being 5 years old when your precious Iraqi friends slammed into the World Trade Center.

Well you can always just look these thigns up? Because you know a question like that, you will be insulted upon.

 

[Sean]

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Okay....

Terrorists fought when we were in Iraq. But think about this, if you're talking about the Iraqi civilians being mad at the United States Soldiers, this is why:

There could be an Iraqi child who loves the fact that these nice troops are coming over the ocean just for this dumb slum country, but that child might have a brother or father who is a terrorist or against the United States, so what happens when the United States troops find that father or kill him or take him away? That child is going to change to loving the troops to hating them, thus becoming hostile. It's an endless cycle, really. I forgot who said this but someone said "The war in the middle east will never end, unless the whole generation of Iraqis, Iranians, etc are all dead."

 

[Nekaku]

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I'm pretty sure you're the one being brainwashed to some degree. Of course they are only gonna show the happy Iraqis who are cheering and shaking hands with the U.S troops on the telly.

Actually, I was taught the opposite... I was stupid till I learned to think for myself. Do my own research. Learned to actually think...

Same, I was jsut asking, and yes some are brainwashed, but many hate the American liberation of Iraq... I think it was stupid, Iran was the target, we invade Iraq to liberate them and look for WMDs, then Iran makes the WMDs and we don't do crap
"We don't believe in credibility, because we know that were ****ing incredible
I want to be a martyr don't want to be a victim,
Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero,
Want to be a martyr don't want to be a victim,
Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero

God is an excuse So sing it with me

We're from America, we're from America, we're from America, you can sing it with me
We're from America, we're from America, we're from America, you can sing it with me"

Who are you Quoting?

And okay, so we stop an evil dictator that the president four years previous had created a vendetta with, that was bad... We of America is threatened. And an oppressive Government at that.

Okay....

Terrorists fought when we were in Iraq. But think about this, if you're talking about the Iraqi civilians being mad at the United States Soldiers, this is why:

There could be an Iraqi child who loves the fact that these nice troops are coming over the ocean just for this dumb slum country, but that child might have a brother or father who is a terrorist or against the United States, so what happens when the United States troops find that father or kill him or take him away? That child is going to change to loving the troops to hating them, thus becoming hostile. It's an endless cycle, really. I forgot who said this but someone said "The war in the middle east will never end, unless the whole generation of Iraqis, Iranians, etc are all dead."

For all that's good! There are Fathers that had been put to death in America for being Mass Murderers. Sure, poor kid lost the Murdering son of a bitch. Oh well. Got rid of the threat.

 

[Xeon]

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Lots of ordinary citizens took up arms to repel the American invaders actually.

You wouldn't know, sweeden wasn't there xD

 

[Firis]

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Who are you Quoting?

One of whom I consider the better philosophers sins Nietzsche. Brian Warner.

 

[Nekaku]

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Marilyn Manson?
Ah, so you are quoting an Anti-American, Radical viewed (Not to mention part of the Anti-Patriotism movement.) He's self-Rightious, Self-Centered, and all this, And you compare him to Nietzshe? Are you serious?

 

[Firis]

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Nietzsche was his main inspiration and Lavey a mentor... He is an artist AND a musician, very much loved and very much hated and one of the smarter celebrities out there.

 

[Nekaku]

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But He is not a philosopher, he does not have any credentials of the kind. They are both Radicals, Self-Righteous and Self-Centered. It's basically all they are. But still, Nietzsche was much more Respectable.

 

[Firis]

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He could be considered a philosopher due to his great quotes, (THat was a song but he has many intellectual qoutations) at the very least he is a wiseman, you don't need credentials to be great, any man, even you and me are capable of much without the credentials or consent of others.

 

[Nekaku]

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His quotes mean nothing if he doesn't know of what it means. He is just like all these Actors that think because they're famous, they know a thing or two about politics...

And no matter what you believe, they are both radicals. No coincidence, they both love themselves and themselves only. That is undeniable. They both said it. And both were proud of it. Except Marilyn Manson is the Satanist that believes each person is their own gods. So, I don't trust a word someone says if they believe that they are the most important being on earth. That the only person they care for at all is themselves. Whatever you can quote of him, is highly unreliable.

 

[Firis]

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Shhh, before this gets religious, this has nothing to do with religion, and actually he is quite political and ahs stated in his blog many times about the news and the presidencies... He is a radical yes. So was Ernesto Guevara, a much loved and idolised figure.

 

[Nekaku]

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Ooh, your right. (about the First part...)

Um... Okay, he's even worse... I'm sorry, but I am firm set that Marxism is Very bad... Socialism is bad, and Communism is bad. Because they are each very connected. And sure, he did do some good. But I wouldn't go as far to say that I would ever even think of Idolizing him.

 

[Tsuyu]

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Except Marilyn Manson is the Satanist that believes each person is their own gods. So, I don't trust a word someone says if they believe that they are the most important being on earth.

But you are the most important being on earth. Nobody will ever love you like you yourself do. If you don't love yourself and believe yourself important there is something horribly wrong with your life.

You have to look beyond the "Christian blasphemy"-aspect of things like these.

 

[Firis]

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^Good point Tsuyu, way to defend us, keep it light on the "Blasphemous Christian" stuff though.

Of course you wouldn't, alot of people wouldn't; but he has been... Anyway... I don't find Socialism bad, and it is one of the closer things to my own political faction... Allwell... Teen Titans is on XD cya.

 

[Nekaku]

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lol'
Have fun! See yeah.

 

[Sean]

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I think the United States will be destroyed.

LOL