God didn't create Earth. The all-powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster did. I know, because I have been touched by His noodly appendage.
I thought it was the Proper Hamburger who did it? You know, the one who backtracked through time?God didn't create Earth. The all-powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster did. I know, because I have been touched by His noodly appendage.
My regrets, m'lord. Or d'you prefer Cap'n?Or even 'Oh-Ehm-Gee!'?Do not mock my religion, please. "Proper Hamburger"... That's just stupid.
well, i met him in this class im taking, he's really nice, funny, and we are both really similar. we were talking last night how we both really like each-other but there are some complications at the moment, but we might be dating soon. c:Well tell us about the recent one then!
I agree, though the fine folks here are quite well-behaved in such a debate.. still, topic derailing is normal, but I wasn't expecting the first crush to drive down Flying Spaghetti Monster lane.I can respect your decision to abstain because of your own or passed down perception of morality and the fear of blemishing it but it is probably not a good idea to bring God into it on here. With the no doubt probably widely contrasting views or thoughts on God by everyone on this forum, from experience it will probably just turn into a ugly debate and if it were necessary warrant its own discussion.
Lorelai said:That said, my current crush is Robin Pecknold. :wub: I will be extremely but pleasantly surprised if anyone here knows who he is.
I agree, though the fine folks here are quite well-behaved in such a debate.. still, topic derailing is normal, but I wasn't expecting the first crush to drive down Flying Spaghetti Monster lane.
Never heard of him actually.
You silly goose!! Robin Pecknold of the Fleet Foxes!! How can you forget?! I only showed you videos and sent songs >_<
Necromancer is Necromancer, and r5v3n i r5v3n; not anyone else. But one could easily lose oneself in a very disarranged world created by something (someone?) known as God.
I wasn't expecting the first crush to drive down Flying Spaghetti Monster lane.
Oh?
Consider this. A life of abstinence comes with it considerable difficulty as it has its principles and values and other things that are absent in a life without abstinence. People do not voluntarily take the more difficult path unless they feel it will be more rewarding in some way. Regardless of what the reward for him might be, that he seeks a personal gain in a more difficult lifestyle that he could not get by forgoing abstinence, wouldn't it make more sense to assume that he has already asked himself why?
Do people who care nothing for abstinence have a good reason why outside of societal conditioning to do so? Are "because that's stupid" or "that's just not my thing" valid reasons? Would it not be safer to assume that people who don't abide by these principles haven't put in nearly as much thought into such matters as people who do?
Would it not be more logical to think that you have it backwards? Here's what I think, I think you want more people to be like you. If that's what you're going for, say so, but skip the crap. What I really want to know is why you are okay with people like me who are whores but you are seemingly bothered by people like him who aren't. I admire that sort of thing, I praise and encourage it, I envy it even. If I could do it over, that's how I'd do it. And I want to know why you have to give him s*** about it.
Consider this. A life of abstinence comes with it considerable difficulty as it has its principles and values and other things that are absent in a life without abstinence. People do not voluntarily take the more difficult path unless they feel it will be more rewarding in some way. Regardless of what the reward for him might be, that he seeks a personal gain in a more difficult lifestyle that he could not get by forgoing abstinence, wouldn't it make more sense to assume that he has already asked himself why?
Do people who care nothing for abstinence have a good reason why outside of societal conditioning to do so? Are "because that's stupid" or "that's just not my thing" valid reasons? Would it not be safer to assume that people who don't abide by these principles haven't put in nearly as much thought into such matters as people who do?
Would it not be more logical to think that you have it backwards? Here's what I think, I think you want more people to be like you. If that's what you're going for, say so, but skip the crap. What I really want to know is why you are okay with people like me who are whores but you are seemingly bothered by people like him who aren't. I admire that sort of thing, I praise and encourage it, I envy it even. If I could do it over, that's how I'd do it. And I want to know why you have to give him s*** about it.
He didn't ask because he's curious, he didn't ask because he wants him to be more enlightened or to get some perspective, or to better himself in any way. He's asking because it differs from him, it differs from what he wants and accepts, and that is why he selectively chooses people who follow paths he disagrees with to "ask" these things. That's intolerant and wrong.
To put this in another context that others would be able to understand better, it would be exactly the same as me asking Tyloric why he's gay, but not asking straight people why they're straight, and rationalizing it as "well I would assume straight people know why they're straight" which implies that gay people don't know why they're gay. So, Necro asks an abstinent person why he's abstinent, but does not ask anyone else why they're not, rationalizing it as "well I would assume people who have premarital sex know why they have premarital sex" which implies that people who abstain don't know why they abstain. It's suggestive as well as a s*** thing to do.
The reason this is wrong is because it's intolerance disguised as philosophy. "I just want you to know why you're the way you are if you're going to be that way". It implies that there's something wrong with it, it tells me that Necro thinks that people who lead that lifestyle are ignorant. If he wanted to just say that, like "I see no reason that I find acceptable to abstain from premarital sex and I think people who do are religious zealots" then whatever, but he is veiling it in condescension and taking jackassery to that level between ignorant kid and intolerant bastard. And the worst part is he doesn't even see it because he has been convinced that this kind of behavior is okay because of "societal conditioning".
He's asking because it differs from him.
I guess you could say the fact that it differed from my beliefs was part of what made me curious, but I was not just trying to get him to believe what I believe.
I was there all the time, so you don't have to ask me. You already know what my view is on this case.HEY EVERYONE LOOK I GOT A NEW TOY CAR
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Alright now, I'm curious to know which one of you stole it and which hand you'd rather have amputated.
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Whenever I meet someone who agrees with me on certain things, like important political matters, or simple what's good taste in music, I don't ask them why they think that. Not because I think they're 'right' and don't have to be asked that, but because I assume it's largely for the same reasons I am convinced that way. I might hear some new things, but mostly, I think I'd only hear what I already decided myself. That's a reason, for me personally, not to ask the same question to people who share my beliefs. It's largely for the same reasons I hold those beliefs, and I already know why I hold them.
Maybe the same counted for necro. Only asking people whose views are different those questions, because it'd be only partly helpful to ask someone of which you (think you) already know. I dunno.