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Creationism

a dude at my work is a creationist (thinks god made the whole universe, the earth is only 12000 years old ect. ect.) i want to punch this guy in the face when ever he talks about it. but hes like .... 60

ive had it out with him a few times over evolution and of course he always says " thats just a theory" (like gravity or the shape of the earth....) he says there is no evidence

i get so mad when discussing this topic with this guy i literally get red in the face

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Wow... I can only say I feel sorry for you. :P
And proud that -so far- I haven't encountered someone like that, in my life.
 
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Thats actually kind of sad, Not what he believes in, But the fact you want to punch him i nthe face just because he believes in something different to you.

If you dont respect what he believes, how is he meant to respect what you believe?

Its people wth that attitude that you have, thats why we have wars an what-not.

lack of respect.

Sure what he believes may be crazy and not what I believe too, but You've got to understand them, they're just different.

****'em
 
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He is 60, let him believe what he wants.

When you're older you'll understand - what sounds more appealing: When you die, nothing happens or you go to heaven?

I have a lot of friends who have changed in character because they fear their time is running out.
 
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ScareCrowReturn;430216 said:
Thats actually kind of sad, Not what he believes in, But the fact you want to punch him i nthe face just because he believes in something different to you.

If you dont respect what he believes, how is he meant to respect what you believe?

Its people wth that attitude that you have, thats why we have wars an what-not.

lack of respect.

Sure what he believes may be crazy and not what I believe too, but You've got to understand them, they're just different.

****'em
it gose both ways he always ripps on evolution and how dinosaur fossils are just rocks that scientists just put together his ignorance is beyond comprehension

ScareCrowReturn;430219 said:
Oh yeah and this is probably the worst forum to psot such a topic, we are all opinionated pricks around here.. :D

i know... im one of them
 
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Wanting to punch him in the face won't change anything, it will just make all Athiests look like punk ass kids hating one anyone who wants to believe in something. Just saying. BUT! That being said, the same can go for muslims or jews or christians for the things they do.

Last time I checked nowhere in the Bible does it state a specific year that the Earth was created or how old it was or is, so him saying it's only 12,000 years old is a little overboard and his opinion.

To be honest, there's evidence that supports both sides, it's just that both sides call each other ignorant and don't take the time to look at the other's evidence and automatically shut them out, be honest, all religions and beliefs do it.

EDIT:

I agree with droded, age has a part of it too.

As you get closer to the end which sounds better blackness/dreaming like or a paradise?

Let it be, because when you get older you'll probably think like him too, sometimes it's not even because the person is scared, they just don't want to be blackness they want to have something to do.

I remember actually learning about how back in the day some of the athiests and deists actually said that Religion is good for you, in the sense that it offers you peace and almost contains civilizations with a set of rules and guidelines without them actually being called that. For instance you don't have sluts or whores because everybody believes in sex after marriage but in today's society marriage matters not - sex is like a sick and beautiful addiction so cross that out.

Over all just let it be.

It's a free country and they're allowed to believe in what they want and SHOULD have the opportunity to live it without someone wanting to punch them in the face for it, I used to be like you and still am sometimes, you hate creationists just as much as I hated all muslims but I took the time to learn about them and what the real problem is and I really only hate the radicals and extremists now.
 
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ScareCrowReturn;430216 said:
Thats actually kind of sad, Not what he believes in, But the fact you want to punch him i nthe face just because he believes in something different to you.

If you dont respect what he believes, how is he meant to respect what you believe?

Its people wth that attitude that you have, thats why we have wars an what-not.

lack of respect.

Sure what he believes may be crazy and not what I believe too, but You've got to understand them, they're just different.

****'em

It's not so much the fact that he has a different belief. It's like the people who deny that the holocaust happened. Would you not be frustrated that they choose to believe something that is unequivocally false?

Sean;430236 said:
Wanting to punch him in the face won't change anything, it will just make all Athiests look like punk ass kids hating one anyone who wants to believe in something. Just saying. BUT! That being said, the same can go for muslims or jews or christians for the things they do.

This coming from the guy who told me he wanted to kill the fundamentalist muslims:hmm:

Sean;430236 said:
Last time I checked nowhere in the Bible does it state a specific year that the Earth was created or how old it was or is, so him saying it's only 12,000 years old is a little overboard and his opinion.

I think he means he adhere's to this or something similar. It's not just one man's opinion, it's flawed science in it's purest form.

Sean;430236 said:
To be honest, there's evidence that supports both sides, it's just that both sides call each other ignorant and don't take the time to look at the other's evidence and automatically shut them out, be honest, all religions and beliefs do it.

That's the thing though, Sean. Outside the Bible or botched "evidence" by fundies who are trying to push creationism, there is nothing to support creationism. Literally nothing.

But even flippant things like evidence aside, it's not about who's right or wrong. It's about the implication of those beliefs on innocent parties.
 
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Arseface;430243 said:
It's not so much the fact that he has a different belief. It's like the people who deny that the holocaust happened. Would you not be frustrated that they choose to believe something that is 2.unequivocally false?



2.This coming from the guy who told me he wanted to kill the fundamentalist muslims:hmm:



I think he means he adhere's to this or something similar. It's not just one man's opinion, it's flawed science in it's purest form.



That's the thing though, Sean. Outside the Bible or botched "evidence" by fundies who are trying to push creationism, there is nothing to support creationism. Literally nothing.

False in his eyes though, not everyone has or should have the same belief.

& to two: No I said I wanted to kill the extremists and radicals - aka the ones who kill "infidels" or in other words terrorists, not normal regular day muslims - don't mix it up please.

& we still need to finish our conversation haha xD I keep forgetting.

To the inbox!
 
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Sean;430246 said:
False in his eyes though, not everyone has or should have the same belief.

Yes, but a belief shouldn't contradict known facts. If I really believed the earth was made entirely of beef, you'd think I was retarded.

Sean;430246 said:
& to two: No I said I wanted to kill the extremists and radicals - aka the ones who kill "infidels" not normal regular day muslims - don't mix it up please.

Because their beliefs have negative implications for the innocent parties? Thats what I'm getting at man. A belief which harms (or seeks to harm) people who disagree is one which can't be allowed to continue. This is one of them.

Sean;430246 said:
& we still need to finish our conversation haha xD I keep forgetting.

To the inbox!

Look forward to it! :D
 
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Arseface;430247 said:
Yes, but a belief shouldn't contradict known facts. If I really believed the earth was made entirely of beef, you'd think I was retarded.



Because their beliefs have negative implications for the innocent parties? Thats what I'm getting at man. A belief which harms (or seeks to harm) people who disagree is one which can't be allowed to continue. This is one of them.



Look forward to it! :D

True. But I guess some people ways differently.

Yeah I suppose you're right, killing killers is hypocritical in a sense, my apologies.
 
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ScareCrowReturn;430216 said:
Thats actually kind of sad, Not what he believes in, But the fact you want to punch him i nthe face just because he believes in something different to you.

If you dont respect what he believes, how is he meant to respect what you believe?

Its people wth that attitude that you have, thats why we have wars an what-not.

lack of respect.

Sure what he believes may be crazy and not what I believe too, but You've got to understand them, they're just different.

****'em
Truth lies in this words.
 
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I find that the best solution to this argument is to not have it in the first place. Its a waste of time, just let the old man rant.
 
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Amon Amarth;430363 said:
Yo dawg we heard you like nihilism so we did nothing.

yo dawg i herd u like memes so i FIRIN MAH LAZOR in yo TUBES so yo can FIRE YO LAZOOOR while u surf the TOOBZ.


the internet is tubes.