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Happy July 4th!

Re: Happy July 4th!

Walker;404293 said:
I know, right? Then we'd probably have to play that cricket ****, and it'd just be so damn boring and awkward. Damn, these people think this game is FUN? What's wrong with them?

:O I hate sports, apart from rugby and cricket. Why would you say these things?
 
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Seriously, I have more respect for BEER PONG than a I do for cricket.

Sorry, guys. It's interesting, because it's weird, but so is curling. It's interesting for historical reasons, but so is ****ing lacrosse. That doesn't mean the modern game is any fun.
 
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Purple Nurple;404297 said:
:O I hate sports, apart from rugby and cricket. Why would you say these things?

Because he's an uneducated yank who doesn't appreciate the finer things in life (except 16 year old softball players. We can all appreciate them).

Walker;404299 said:
Seriously, I have more respect for BEER PONG than a I do for cricket.

Sorry, guys. It's interesting, because it's weird, but so is curling. It's interesting for historical reasons, but so is ****ing lacrosse. That doesn't mean the modern game is any fun.

You only think it's weird because you live in your own little world where America is the centre of the universe. Do you know how weird NFL looks from a sensible point of view?
 
Re: Happy July 4th!

Walker;404293 said:
I know, right? Then we'd probably have to play that cricket ****, and it'd just be so damn boring and awkward. Damn, these people think this game is FUN? What's wrong with them?

Out of the large amount of people I know, none of them like cricket. Except my Godfather.

I didn't even smile when I found out England won the Ashes.

@Arseface: You pwned America.

NFL is just... Horrible. They go for twenty minutes and then stop for five to cure their injured booboos. Sure, the tackles are hard but c'mon. You all look like this guy when underneath, you're this guy.

@PN: Rugby sucks! Football ftw!
 
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Arseface;404307 said:
Because he's an uneducated yank who doesn't appreciate the finer things in life (except 16 year old softball players. We can all appreciate them).

You only think it's weird because you live in your own little world where America is the centre of the universe. Do you know how weird NFL looks from a sensible point of view?

I know, right?

The centER of the universe, thankyouverymuch. And it looks about as weird as Aussie football looks from a sensible point of view, would be my guess.

Zjuggernaut;404320 said:
NFL is just... Horrible. They go for twenty minutes and then stop for five to cure their injured booboos. Sure, the tackles are hard but c'mon. You all look like this guy when underneath, you're this guy.

Look, here's the thing. I watched soccer. Some, anyway. And here's the thing. HOLY **** IT WAS BORING. Sure, football stops a lot. But when things are happening, something is happening. Every yard counts (no snide comments about our measurements, thank you). In soccer, though. Jeezus. 90% of the game is aimlessly kicking the ball back and forth, not getting anything accomplished.

Plus, no complaining about football player's boo-boos. Soccer players are crippled and shortly thereafter miraculously healed with the regularity of a celebrity dropping into rehab. And with about as much entertainment value and actual effect. It's part of the game.

At least with football we have the grace to go, "holy **** what is this, Clinton Portis is pulling himself from the game because he says he's hurt AGAIN? What a twat."

EDIT: Also, I should point out that football players ARE usually really big guys, the ones doing the tackling, anyway. Running backs and wide receivers and all really do look like the second picture.
 
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The thing with America is we think we are the best of the best in everything, that is why I hate patriotism so much, because it seems to be all about 'America is the best!' and 'Kill the Commie scum!' etc, when in truth we aren't the best in everything, and the things we are really good at are usually because the people are pumped full of steroids and heroin or partially insane.

As far Football and American Handlemon I offer this opinion:

Football lives up to it's name, you use your foot, to move a ball, it also is a world wide sport that many many countries love and it is intense for the players, sure it may not have people bashing into each other much, but for that I offer Rugby. In American Football, they don't use their foot on the lemon (It is a rotten brown lemon, not a ball.) much, and they run around with it with a ton of hydration, a break every 5 minutes and wear a ton of padding.
 
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Walker;404371 said:
Look, here's the thing. I watched soccer. Some, anyway. And here's the thing. HOLY **** IT WAS BORING. Sure, football stops a lot. But when things are happening, something is happening. Every yard counts (no snide comments about our measurements, thank you). In soccer, though. Jeezus. 90% of the game is aimlessly kicking the ball back and forth, not getting anything accomplished.

Plus, no complaining about football player's boo-boos. Soccer players are crippled and shortly thereafter miraculously healed with the regularity of a celebrity dropping into rehab. And with about as much entertainment value and actual effect. It's part of the game.

At least with football we have the grace to go, "holy **** what is this, Clinton Portis is pulling himself from the game because he says he's hurt AGAIN? What a twat."

EDIT: Also, I should point out that football players ARE usually really big guys, the ones doing the tackling, anyway. Running backs and wide receivers and all really do look like the second picture.

Some of that post is so wrong.

"Soccer" is fun to watch. Depending on the quality of the game. If you watch a game where the final score is 1 - 0, yes It's going to suck. But If you watch a close, action packed game it's amazing. Like 4 - 3, 5 - 4 or something.

You're aware "soccer" players pretend to be hurt on purpose, right? The dramatise everything so it gets the referee on their side. Watch Portugal v England 2006 and watch Wayne Rooney get sent off. They pretend to be in pain for the game to swing their way. Sure, you mentioned this slightly but everyone gives "soccer" so much sh*t for all the players being pussies when really... They're not.

90% of NFL is the whistle blowing and a bunch of men hugging each other.

EDIT:

If an American says NFL sucks... Then... America 0 - 1 Internationals.
 
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Firis;404402 said:
Football lives up to it's name, you use your foot, to move a ball, it also is a world wide sport that many many countries love and it is intense for the players, sure it may not have people bashing into each other much, but for that I offer Rugby. In American Football, they don't use their foot on the lemon (It is a rotten brown lemon, not a ball.) much, and they run around with it with a ton of hydration, a break every 5 minutes and wear a ton of padding.

Look, man. You're American. For clarity's sake, stick to speaking your own damn dialect.

It's an oblate spheroid, friend. C'mon, get your terms right. EDIT2: And anyway, rugby uses an "oblate spheroid" too, and the carry the ball almost as much. That's where football got it from. Football is a heavily altered variant of rugby's rules.

Zjuggernaut;404406 said:
Some of that post is so wrong.

"Soccer" is fun to watch. Depending on the quality of the game. If you watch a game where the final score is 1 - 0, yes It's going to suck. But If you watch a close, action packed game it's amazing. Like 4 - 3, 5 - 4 or something.

You're aware "soccer" players pretend to be hurt on purpose, right? The dramatise everything so it gets the referee on their side. Watch Portugal v England 2006 and watch Wayne Rooney get sent off. They pretend to be in pain for the game to swing their way. Sure, you mentioned this slightly but everyone gives "soccer" so much sh*t for all the players being pussies when really... They're not.

90% of NFL is the whistle blowing and a bunch of men hugging each other.

EDIT:

If an American says NFL sucks... Then... America 0 - 1 Internationals.

Don't be ****y that I'm an American, okay? I know you're a Brit. I know you call it football. That doesn't change the fact that I call it what I call it.

Fine, then every game I saw was boring ****. Including the DC United and Washington Freedom games I've been to in the past. Though Washington Warthogs indoor soccer was damn cool.

My point is that they're pussies for the same reason Clinton Portis is. He ISN'T hurt when he pulls himself roughly once a game. He's just being a *****. Soccer players AREN'T hurt when they're sitting there *****ing and moaning and trying to get a penalty. They're just being little *****es. It's a figment of the way soccer's rules are set up, and it's irritating as all ****.

Completely true. I'll be the first to admit that football is ****ing boring itself, even if I do watch it.

Why? I've said football sucks myself. I mean, I was REALLY down on it when I was younger. What's that have to do with America vs. Everybody else?

EDIT: And incidentally, I want to point out that I absolutely hate playing football, but I played soccer for years when I was younger. It's just that WATCHING soccer is completely ****ing stupefying. And it's also not impossible that I'll change my mind. Used to be I couldn't stand watching football, either.
 
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Walker;404424 said:
Look, man. You're American. For clarity's sake, stick to speaking your own damn dialect.

It's an oblate spheroid, friend. C'mon, get your terms right. EDIT2: And anyway, rugby uses an "oblate spheroid" too, and the carry the ball almost as much. That's where football got it from. Football is a heavily altered variant of rugby's rules.

My own dialect? I spoke in American, I didn't use any British colloquialisms or anything of the sort.

The lemon thing was for dramatic effect

I know that American Football has origin and Rugby and that they use an oblate spheroid, I just offered it as a funner alternative to padding.
 
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Walker;404424 said:
Don't be ****y that I'm an American, okay? I know you're a Brit. I know you call it football. That doesn't change the fact that I call it what I call it.

I was saying "Soccer" because I didn't want to say football incase it caused confusion.

So you've only watched Americans play soccer? No wonder it was boring. It isn't one of your fine points.
 
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Firis;404429 said:
My own dialect? I spoke in American, I didn't use any British colloquialisms or anything of the sort.

Not to be an argumentative little *****, but:

Firis;404402 said:
As far Football and American Handlemon I offer this opinion:

Football lives up to it's name, you use your foot, to move a ball, it also is a world wide sport that many many countries love and it is intense for the players, sure it may not have people bashing into each other much, but for that I offer Rugby. In American Football, they don't use their foot on the lemon (It is a rotten brown lemon, not a ball.) much, and they run around with it with a ton of hydration, a break every 5 minutes and wear a ton of padding.

Also, on the second bit, I was just trying a bit of lighter sarcasm to relieve the bite of the first bit.

Zjuggernaut;404434 said:
I was saying "Soccer" because I didn't want to say football incase it caused confusion.

So you've only watched Americans play soccer? No wonder it was boring. It isn't one of your fine points.

Saying "soccer" is very nearly as irritating as standing in front of me saying quote unquote soccer while making those little air-quotes with your fingers.

No, I've watched Ghanan and Slovene teams. The team was different then, but as of this moment the DC United roster includes:

One Australian.
One Serb.
One Argentine.
One Brazilian.
One man born in the former Yugoslavia.
One Trinidadian (or possibly Tobagan)
One South African.
One Costa Rican, a Honduran, and a Bolivian.

Admittedly, some of them may be immigrants, since I just took this from the "birthplace" bit. But nevertheless. Also, and this is kind of cool, there are two Washingtonians, four Marylanders (hooah!), and two Virginians. Virginians kinda suck, but hey, at least the team has a lot of local boys.

My point being that obviously it wasn't just Americans I was watching. Washington Freedom probably has a similar breakdown, though I don't even remember if women's professional soccer or the Freedom exist at the moment.

I'd also like to point out that America isn't that bad. We might not win World Cups, but we're always there. Not bad for a country that doesn't give a rat's ass.
 
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Walker;404371 said:
I know, right?

The centER of the universe, thankyouverymuch. And it looks about as weird as Aussie football looks from a sensible point of view, would be my guess.

Hey, the British gave you their language, and in return you butcher it. Such insolence.


Walker;404371 said:
Look, here's the thing. I watched soccer. Some, anyway. And here's the thing. HOLY **** IT WAS BORING. Sure, football stops a lot. But when things are happening, something is happening. Every yard counts (no snide comments about our measurements, thank you). In soccer, though. Jeezus. 90% of the game is aimlessly kicking the ball back and forth, not getting anything accomplished.

Agreed, although I'm getting more interested in it the more I watch it.

Walker;404371 said:
Plus, no complaining about football player's boo-boos. Soccer players are crippled and shortly thereafter miraculously healed with the regularity of a celebrity dropping into rehab. And with about as much entertainment value and actual effect. It's part of the game.

At least with football we have the grace to go, "holy **** what is this, Clinton Portis is pulling himself from the game because he says he's hurt AGAIN? What a twat."

He's a twat because he thinks you can get hurt whilst wearing body armour. Silly man. Try playing a full contact sport without any armour

Walker;404371 said:
EDIT: Also, I should point out that football players ARE usually really big guys, the ones doing the tackling, anyway. Running backs and wide receivers and all really do look like the second picture.

That's the other thing. You've got a different person for every little different role. You've got one team for attack, one team for defence, another team to get the other two teams drinks, etc.

Firis;404402 said:
Football lives up to it's name, you use your foot, to move a ball, it also is a world wide sport that many many countries love and it is intense for the players, sure it may not have people bashing into each other much, but for that I offer Rugby. In American Football, they don't use their foot on the lemon (It is a rotten brown lemon, not a ball.) much, and they run around with it with a ton of hydration, a break every 5 minutes and wear a ton of padding.

I move to reintroduce the term handegg.

Zjuggernaut;404406 said:
Some of that post is so wrong.

"Soccer" is fun to watch. Depending on the quality of the game. If you watch a game where the final score is 1 - 0, yes It's going to suck. But If you watch a close, action packed game it's amazing. Like 4 - 3, 5 - 4 or something.

Not nearly as fun to watch as AFL is consistently. Even a bad game of AFL has more action than any game of soccer.

Zjuggernaut;404406 said:
You're aware "soccer" players pretend to be hurt on purpose, right? The dramatise everything so it gets the referee on their side. Watch Portugal v England 2006 and watch Wayne Rooney get sent off. They pretend to be in pain for the game to swing their way. Sure, you mentioned this slightly but everyone gives "soccer" so much sh*t for all the players being pussies when really... They're not.

So they're glorified actors. You shouldn't need to fake injury to make your team win. It's textbook pussy behaviour, I'm sorry.

Walker;404424 said:
Look, man. You're American. For clarity's sake, stick to speaking your own damn dialect.

It's an oblate spheroid, friend. C'mon, get your terms right. EDIT2: And anyway, rugby uses an "oblate spheroid" too, and the carry the ball almost as much. That's where football got it from. Football is a heavily altered variant of rugby's rules.

Handegg is a *******ised version, of a *******ised version of Soccer. At least AFL is it's own game.

Walker;404424 said:
My point is that they're pussies for the same reason Clinton Portis is. He ISN'T hurt when he pulls himself roughly once a game. He's just being a *****. Soccer players AREN'T hurt when they're sitting there *****ing and moaning and trying to get a penalty. They're just being little *****es. It's a figment of the way soccer's rules are set up, and it's irritating as all ****.

Completely true. I'll be the first to admit that football is ****ing boring itself, even if I do watch it.

Why? I've said football sucks myself. I mean, I was REALLY down on it when I was younger. What's that have to do with America vs. Everybody else?

EDIT: And incidentally, I want to point out that I absolutely hate playing football, but I played soccer for years when I was younger. It's just that WATCHING soccer is completely ****ing stupefying. And it's also not impossible that I'll change my mind. Used to be I couldn't stand watching football, either.

I don't get why more people don't watch AFL. Fun to play AND watch.
 
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Arseface;404478 said:
Hey, the British gave you their language, and in return you butcher it. Such insolence.

Item #1. American-formerly-English settlers gave us the language. Item #2, we outnumber them. It's only democratic that they should talk like us now. Waitaminute. They're a monarchy. Curses! Foiled again.

Arseface;404478 said:
He's a twat because he thinks you can get hurt whilst wearing body armour. Silly man. Try playing a full contact sport without any armour

Arseface;404478 said:
So they're glorified actors. You shouldn't need to fake injury to make your team win. It's textbook pussy behaviour, I'm sorry.

Exactly. Though you CAN get hurt pretty easily in football. Not as easily as, say, cheerleading, but pretty easily. Buncha fat guys land on you when a body part's at the wrong angle and you are ****ED.

Arseface;404478 said:
That's the other thing. You've got a different person for every little different role. You've got one team for attack, one team for defence, another team to get the other two teams drinks, etc.

True, but I was actually referring to people who were all on offense. Linebackers are the big guys who play up front blocking. Running backs grab the ball and run with it. Wide recievers run out and catch it. I'm a lot fuzzier on what the different defenders do or even if there is a difference.

Arseface;404478 said:
Handegg is a *******ised version, of a *******ised version of Soccer. At least AFL is it's own game.

Didn't rugby and soccer evolve at the same time? And I could have SWORN than Aussie football came from rugby, too.

Arseface;404478 said:
I don't get why more people don't watch AFL. Fun to play AND watch.

I could say the same thing about our version.
 
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It's a game. None of this matters.

American Football is great.
Soccer is great.
Cricket is... eh I hate it cause I suck at it but I'm sure it has it's positive points.

Who really cares enough to fight about sports.

I think all of them are cool and original.

Obviously American Football isn't that bad, considering it rapes the ratings.

Done.
 
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Walker;404486 said:
Item #1. American-formerly-English settlers gave us the language. Item #2, we outnumber them. It's only democratic that they should talk like us now. Waitaminute. They're a monarchy. Curses! Foiled again.

At least our head of state is cooler than yours.

Walker;404481 said:
Exactly. Though you CAN get hurt pretty easily in football. Not as easily as, say, cheerleading, but pretty easily. Buncha fat guys land on you when a body part's at the wrong angle and you are ****ED.

Exactly the same in AFL, except you don't have two sets of body armour between you and the other guy.

Walker;404481 said:
True, but I was actually referring to people who were all on offense. Linebackers are the big guys who play up front blocking. Running backs grab the ball and run with it. Wide recievers run out and catch it. I'm a lot fuzzier on what the different defenders do or even if there is a difference.

That's why AFL is better. It's basically a free for all.

Walker;404481 said:
Didn't rugby and soccer evolve at the same time? And I could have SWORN than Aussie football came from rugby, too.

Probably, but it wouldn't have worked the other way around.

And the only thing AFL has in common with Rugby is that it has a similarly shaped ball. Similar, but different. AFL evolved during the mid 19th century as a game that would keep the cricketers fit during the winter. I guess you could say it evolved from cricket, but that just raises further questions.

Walker;404481 said:
I could say the same thing about our version.

But.... you cant. Because gridiron is like a **** version of Rugby, which is in itself inferior to AFL.
 
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Arseface;404489 said:
At least our head of state is cooler than yours.

Well, duh. Have you seen that hat it gets to wear? Our head of state doesn't have anything that cool. On the other hand, your head of state has a really stupid motto. My god and my right? Or whatever that French junk translates as? Pathetic.

Arseface;404489 said:
Exactly the same in AFL, except you don't have two sets of body armour between you and the other guy.

But AFL is a bunch of wiry little ****s in booty shorts and sleeveless softball jerseys. Football is a bunch of battletank-fatmen.

Arseface;404489 said:
That's why AFL is better. It's basically a free for all.

BAH! We don't need your steeenking Australian anarchy.

Arseface;404489 said:
And the only thing AFL has in common with Rugby is that it has a similarly shaped ball. Similar, but different. AFL evolved during the mid 19th century as a game that would keep the cricketers fit during the winter. I guess you could say it evolved from cricket, but that just raises further questions.

No one would say that. Sorry. And hey, AFL has as much in common with rugby as football does.

Arseface;404489 said:
But.... you cant. Because gridiron is like a **** version of Rugby, which is in itself inferior to AFL.

Look, when you can refer to your game by the name of the league that organizes it because no one else plays it, I don't think you can claim every other earthly sport is inferior.
 
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Walker;404495 said:
Well, duh. Have you seen that hat it gets to wear? Our head of state doesn't have anything that cool. On the other hand, your head of state has a really stupid motto. My god and my right? Or whatever that French junk translates as? Pathetic.

But she does have a cool hat.

Walker;404481 said:
But AFL is a bunch of wiry little ****s in booty shorts and sleeveless softball jerseys. Football is a bunch of battletank-fatmen.

Only wiry compared to fat men in body armour. They could rip apart any NFL team in a fight.

Walker;404481 said:
BAH! We don't need your steeenking Australian anarchy.

You're only saying that out of jealousy.

Walker;404481 said:
No one would say that. Sorry. And hey, AFL has as much in common with rugby as football does.

As if it does. Bigger and different shaped pitch, completely different scoring system, not allowed to throw the ball, no offside rule, etc.

NFL is basically Rugby except one guy can throw the ball forward.

Walker;404481 said:
Look, when you can refer to your game by the name of the league that organizes it because no one else plays it, I don't think you can claim every other earthly sport is inferior.

I just did O.o