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The Hobbit

Necromancer said:
the CGI for stuff like the orcs was crappy.
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I kind of agree (with her at least) on this point. It did seem like a huge CGI-fest. I'm willing to bet at least 50% of the film was completely CGI, and it would be more, but I don't want to say that 70% of it was CGI and then look stupid because I'm wrong and I don't really know what I'm talking about. Obviously they can't make real goblins and orcs appear without some level of computer trickery, but I still think they took the easy route a lot of the time with the CGI.

Also, on a side note, my 11 year old sister went to see it for her friends birthday.

She said "It was rubbish, it was all about elves and orcs. And there were so many fight scenes!!"

In my entire life I never wanted to punch someone harder...
 
It , was , AMAZING. I love how they adapted the book and it was better than i expected it to be. I seen the 24fps standard version, no fancy stuff. Either way it's not as good as LOTR but it's right up there as my favourite film of 2012.
 
HobbeBrain said:
I kind of agree (with her at least) on this point. It did seem like a huge CGI-fest. I'm willing to bet at least 50% of the film was completely CGI, and it would be more, but I don't want to say that 70% of it was CGI and then look stupid because I'm wrong and I don't really know what I'm talking about. Obviously they can't make real goblins and orcs appear without some level of computer trickery, but I still think they took the easy route a lot of the time with the CGI.

Also, on a side note, my 11 year old sister went to see it for her friends birthday.

She said "It was rubbish, it was all about elves and orcs. And there were so many fight scenes!!"

In my entire life I never wanted to punch someone harder...
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They could have used actors & make up like the Uruk hai from the other movies to make it look that much more authentic. As lots of people have been moaning there were too many CGI sequences used & the combat doesnt feel like it has any weight to it as you know the actors are swinging at nothing. Havent got chance to see it myself yet but I am a little disappointed they went down the CGI route.
 
Dark Drakan said:
They could have used actors & make up like the Uruk hai from the other movies to make it look that much more authentic. As lots of people have been moaning there were too many CGI sequences used & the combat doesnt feel like it has any weight to it as you know the actors are swinging at nothing. Havent got chance to see it myself yet but I am a little disappointed they went down the CGI route.
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Yeah, they should have done. Doesn't retract from the fact that it's a great film, but it is quite annoying. Maybe they'll change that for the second and third movies.
 
So I finally went and saw the movie (because my backwater country didn't have the technology to screen it in 48 FPS until now, herp de derp) and I gotta say it trumps the other movies, by far.

  • Dwarves! Dwarves are my favourite "good" race in the Tolkien universe, and I welcome any chance I get to see them. The opening scenes which fleshed out Erebor's backstory made me shiver. Some say the comedic side of them was too much, but I liked it. It served to illustrate the point of how different they are in comparison to Hobbits, especially the "home invasion" scenes in the beginning.
  • "Intelligent" orcs, goblins and trolls. I much preferred this portrayal of these races when they talk and have personalities to when they are just mindless slaves to Sauron in the later movies. In a sense, it shows how they too are victims abused by Sauron, having to give up their personalities as well as their society to blend into his "mindless horde of bad guy minions." Didn't the Goblins look truly happy in their little "town" inside the mountain...? I thought so.
  • Bilbo. Bilbo is ten times the Hobbit his nephew is! He didn't spend the entire movie running around being an emo like Frodo does through pretty much the entire length of the three LotR movies. He mans up and is even awesome at times. What a welcome change!
  • Gollum. The entire exchange between Gollum and Bilbo was portrayed pretty much exactly as it did in my head when I read the book. Well done.
As for the CGI, I liked it. Yes, you heard it. The CGI was done right, it wasn't obvious - that's the biggest sin you can do as a film maker using CGI. Obvious CGI is bad CGI. You couldn't tell by first glance what character was a real life actor and which was CGI.
 
I just downloaded it, I'll watch it later and post my thoughts.
 
Jessica saw it before me (because she is pure evil) and she said it was crap. Which means I'll really like it.

IF I EVER GET TO SEE IT :'(
 
Tsuyu said:
As for the CGI, I liked it. Yes, you heard it. The CGI was done right, it wasn't obvious - that's the biggest sin you can do as a film maker using CGI. Obvious CGI is bad CGI. You couldn't tell by first glance what character was a real life actor and which was CGI.
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I'm glad you liked it.
 
Not sure I agree about LIKING the CGI, but overall I agree wholeheartedly with you three.

Well, I don't AGREE with our motherly admin up there, because that would be nonsensical, but you know.
 
Necromancer said:
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I'm glad you liked it.
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Why exactly did you like it? I thought it was literally the only bad thing about the entire film. You couldn't necessarily tell which bits were CGI, but you just knew that it was CGI because there's still that kind of fluid, shiny quality you get with CGI that doesn't really compare to real life actors.
 
HobbeBrain said:
Why exactly did you like it? I thought it was literally the only bad thing about the entire film. You couldn't necessarily tell which bits were CGI, but you just knew that it was CGI because there's still that kind of fluid, shiny quality you get with CGI that doesn't really compare to real life actors.
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Agree with this. It felt like it had a plasticy translucent paint job over it, only bit I disliked about the film.
 
Walker said:
I honestly didn't notice. Willing suspension of disbelief is a wonderful thing.
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I couldn't tell if it was CGI or the frame rate, but there was definately some funny business. You must be a stronger man than I.
 
Yea, like Walker, it's just that I didn't notice it, so it's not so much that I liked the CGI and thought, "Hmm, this is really good CGI," it's more that I just didn't see anything bad about it like everyone else did.
 
Find me an actor that could've played the Goblin King.

I dare you.
 
Wellllll... I'll admit I didn't like the Goblin King. He was just... too gross.
 
He's the friggin' goblin king! Did you expect him to smell of roses?
 
Tsuyu said:
He's the friggin' goblin king! Did you expect him to smell of roses?
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No, but neither did I expect him to be quite as ridiculous. Hard to be intimidated by a cartoon character.

That was actually the worst acting in the entire movie... or, not worst, but the part that felt the most cringeworthy. Not that I really had to take the whole thing seriously, it's just that... iunno. Goblin King was one of the specific things I was unsure about.

HobbeBrain said:
Brian Blessed.
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Yup.
 
To be honest, I liked it better than LOTR. It was a happier place which added a bit of coler to the never-ending doom and gloom of Fellowship of the Ring and onward stuff.

I'm going to come out and say it, but I don't think I've ever been enthralled with those books. I mean, yeah I get why I've never heard someone else say that but it's just too much monotone. Couldn't find anything to relate too as a result, really. I had that problem with both the film and the books and it stopped me from seriously getting engrossed on a personal level.

I'm gonna go hang out with the Harry Potter people guys. And screw the critics!

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