If you could choose...

[Gikoku]

I thought it was 74 virgins..

 

[Necromancer]

I just googled it. It's 72.

 

[Quistrix]

It doesn't specify that they're female virgins, ya know.

 

[Tsuyu]

You can see how I got confused then.

 

[ScareCrowReturn]

Wait, wait, wait.. I now in RL once you have de-flowered a virgin, she is no longer a virgin, but in that heaven once you de-flower them, do they still stay as a virgin? Because if they do, you'll pretty much have a blood covered dick everytime you have sex.. But I do know that some people wouldn't mind that... *Cough* Tsuyu, Gikoku*Cough*.. All depending if you break the hymen or not..

Haha

 

[Arseface]

Reincarnation for me.

Short of being the one I find the most believable anyway, paradise can't be paradise forever. And it wouldn't be long before those virgins were dried up burlap sacks, and I'm not a huge drinker.

Valhalla for me.

Reincarnation would suck the biggest.
It depends on how you lived your past life so: Rich bachelor who drinks, parties and has sex non stop till you die of an over dose of quaaludes. = you being reincarnated as a sloth, who eats leafs and only comes down from his tree to poop and possibly get killed by another, more awesome animal.

I dont understand. Sloths are already the most awesome animal?

 

[Aions]

Reincarnation for me.

I know this is just a theoretical topic but...
In the reincarnation belief system there are only a 'set' amount of souls. You can come back as human or animal. Or when you achieve the 'right' life you just stay dead and become one with every thing sorta' deal. If that where true, the human population would only decrease due to the amount of people:
A) Staying dead having completed their full and happy life. Not coming back as human or animal
Or
B) Becoming an animal. (I dont know if you can achieve true enlightenment while in animal form or not, if so - that only proves the fact more so.)

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Sloths are already the most awesome animal?

No, that title goes to the pistol shrimp

 

[Tsuyu]

Wait, wait, wait.. I now in RL once you have de-flowered a virgin, she is no longer a virgin, but in that heaven once you de-flower them, do they still stay as a virgin? Because if they do, you'll pretty much have a blood covered dick everytime you have sex.. But I do know that some people wouldn't mind that... *Cough* Tsuyu, Gikoku*Cough*.. All depending if you break the hymen or not..

Haha

Honestly, I'd rather have 70-something porn stars or prostitutes.

Virgins are overrated. It is not so much about their hymens being intact, the biological side of things, but their supposed purity in Islam, the spiritual side of things.

Or when you achieve the 'right' life you just stay dead and become one with every thing sorta' deal. If that where true, the human population would only decrease due to the amount of people:

Indeed. That is essentially the problem with that particular belief system. Now, the believers (well actually they aren't believers as much as they are Western phonies who feel the need to explain and rationalize these Eastern beliefs. Actual Buddhists/Hindus don't give a crap) is that bacteria have souls.

Yes, bacteria counts and apparently they have souls and if you can be reincarnated as one according to them.

Or when you achieve the 'right' life you just stay dead and become one with every thing sorta' deal. If that where true, the human population would only decrease due to the amount of people:

In essence, Buddhism believes that living life is suffering(in a non-emo way mind you) and the circle of reincarnation is something to "escape" by achieving enlightenment. However, achieving true enlightenment, Nirvana, is... well, it requires such dedication and effort that very few people have supposedly reached that state of being.

 

[Aions]

Indeed. That is essentially the problem with that particular belief system. Now, the believers (well actually they aren't believers as much as they are Western phonies who feel the need to explain and rationalize these Eastern beliefs. Actual Buddhists/Hindus don't give a crap) is that bacteria have souls.

Yes, bacteria counts and apparently they have souls and if you can be reincarnated as one according to them.

That statement is a recent one to cover their collective modern ass'. I call BS on that, No one knew what bacteria was in 543 BCE.
Shenanigans, grab your brooms!!

 

[Tsuyu]

I couldn't care less though. Buddhists monks in Tibet aren't the ones trying to scientifically rationalize their religion to me, but as I said it is Western "philosophers".

If that where true, the human population would only decrease due to the amount of people:
A) Staying dead having completed their full and happy life. Not coming back as human or animal
Or
B) Becoming an animal. (I dont know if you can achieve true enlightenment while in animal form or not, if so - that only proves the fact more so.)

I missed this before. Allow me to explain: Reincarnation is unavoidable unless you achieve Nirvana. I wouldn't call it punishment in the same sense as the concept of "Hell" but rather it is just how the world works and you can't do nothing about it unless you live a good enough life and contemplate the mysteries of... things... until you can achieve Nirvana and escape the cycle of endless reincarnation.

As for animals: you will eventually come to the point where your next reincarnation will be human gain so you will be given another chance to "escape". If you were good enough, you'll reincarnate into a human directly after you died, and if you were bad you are reincarnated into a "lower rank" animal and have to life through several lifetimes of being gradually "higher rank" animals until you hit the top and get another chance at being human.

That is, in Buddhism. I'm not too sure about Hinduism.

 

[Aions]

^Silly rules. So convoluted. Just sum it up with "Its magic" This is why i dont like religion, or at least organized ones.

 

[Tsuyu]

You think so? I really like Buddhism. Now, don't get me wrong, I like my sex, meat and material possessions far too much to become a Buddhist, but unlike the Abrahamic religions I can actually feel a sort of respect for its practitioners. They dedicate their lives to such an extreme degree to this philosophy of theirs (really, it is more of philosophy than a religion) without the threat of hellfire. Instead of a preacher screaming and raving about how all the wicked sinners are going to burn forever in hell, you have these monks who don't want to insult or harm anyone. Even everyday Buddhists who are not as hardcore as the monks I respect, even-tough they sorta wuss out (especially if they live in a Western country).

There is just this... pure pursuit of great insight and wisdom to eventually reach true enlightenment and transcendence to another plane of existence and state of being. That's something I "could" consider giving up my sinful ways for, had it not been for the above mentioned affection for said sinful ways.

As for rules, they aren't exactly rules in the same sense as the Ten Commandments. Those are frikken rules. Plus all the other crazy stuff in those books. You're not expected to follow the "rules" of reincarnation or else something bad happens to you. No, they are just a way to explain things. In a sense they are almost scientific in nature; not because they can be proven but because, as I said, they are a way to explain how it works.

 

[Aions]

You can go out and snort blow off of a strippers inner thigh one night, then read A Brief History of Time the next day. I dont need a religion telling me how to run my life.

Im all for understanding the universe but i believe in science to tell me how that works, not meditation and bronze age mythology.

And the ten commandments are silly in their own right, unconditional love with conditions. I use to know them off by heart (went to catholic school) But i remember they go something like this:
Fear me
Fear me
Fear me
Don't do stuff on my day
Be nice to mommy and daddy
Don't kill
Don't have to much sex
Don't steal
Don't steal
Don't lie
Basic rules to live by any way. Minus the sex stuff and God fearing.

 

[Tsuyu]

That's the beauty of Buddhism: it doesn't tell you how to live your life unless you're giving it your consent. If you don't like it, Buddhism is essentially invisible to you and has zero influence on your life! Buddha doesn't hate fags, the Christian God supposedly does. Buddah doesn't wage constant Jihad to conquer the entire world, Allah does(Yes, its in the Quran. One of Islams goals are to conquer the world under the cresent moon. How supervillain-y, right?).

Anyhow, I've partially reached enlightenment right now and realized that reincarnation is not technically the afterlife. I don't know what I was thinking. Reincarnation essentially resets your earthly life so it actually "afterlife-block"s you repeatedly. The actual afterlife would of course be Nirvana when you're discussing Buddhism.

I'd still rate it one of my top choices though, Nirvana sounds pretty damn good. I wonder if Cobain would be there?

 

[Aions]

That's the beauty of Buddhism: it doesn't tell you how to live your life unless you're giving it your consent. If you don't like it, Buddhism is essentially invisible to you and has zero influence on your life! Buddha doesn't hate fags, the Christian God supposedly does.

Anyhow, I've partially reached enlightenment right now and realized that reincarnation is not technically the afterlife. I don't know what I was thinking. Reincarnation essentially resets your earthly life so it actually "afterlife-block"s you repeatedly. The actual afterlife would of course be Nirvana when you're discussing Buddhism.

I'd still rate it one of my top choices though, Nirvana sounds pretty damn good.

Being in "eternal peace" without your corporeal form sound boring as hell.
Its like the Dr. Manhattan paradox (for lack of a batter term) you know every thing, you cant feel any thing... you just get bored and stop caring all together, then think your self in to oblivion like a rampant AI.

At least in Valhalla you can bang chicks, get drunk then have a nice game of CTF or Slayer. (lol halo)
I dont know if there is a law saying you have to do this either, sounds more like a option
"Hey Aions, want to come and have a drink? Then maybe go out side with the guys and, uh... chop some heads off?"
"Naw man, i think ill stay inside and watch Mythbuster re-runs... ya know? have an Aions day today"

 

[Tsuyu]

Eternal peace? That's the kinda of dullness you'd find in Christianity's Heaven, but I believe they call it eternal bliss. As hard as it is to describe Nirvana, I could draw the crude comparison of it being like existing in Heaven, but not with the understanding of a deceased human being soul in heaven but of the Almighty himself.

 

[Aions]

Ehh... To each their own i guess.

 

[Tsuyu]

You make a valid point of it getting boring eventually.

But won't all afterlives?

Which is why I don't much enjoy the concept when I really think about it. Human beings are fully aware that they are finite; they die. We are not made for eternal existence.

 

[HobbeBrain]

This is going to sound massively out of character, but wouldn't an afterlife with one special person be better (slightly) than an afterlife full of intensely gratifying but overall meaningless sex?

Yeah I said it.

Think about it though... if you have something for a while (e.g while you're alive) and you have a deadline, it's much more special than something that you know you have forever.

This post is just waiting for an Ultra Gay Seal reply innit.

 

[queenofdisco]

I think boning virgins would get real annoying, too much blood on my peepee I'd prefer re-incarnation as me being as awesome as I am I'd most certainly reach true enlightenment and be chilling with buddha while you fools are stuck in the realm of the burning ghosts muahahahahaha.